What parts can cause that???thats what supposed to happen, but there were some parts that broke and bound up inside that caused it to lock up. no steering at all!
800 Can Am vs Polaris 850XP?
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After owning both for a while if I had to choose one I would choose the 850 XP over the can-am.
It is smoother riding and in real technical areas it does better in off camber slow riding.
It instills more confidence for the rider.
The can am is more tippy and jumpy in technical riding.......What it does have over the 850 XP is it is faster in a drag race, sounds better and has a smoother linear engine braking.
It is smoother riding and in real technical areas it does better in off camber slow riding.
It instills more confidence for the rider.
The can am is more tippy and jumpy in technical riding.......What it does have over the 850 XP is it is faster in a drag race, sounds better and has a smoother linear engine braking.
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That depends on the terrain, from what you say about drag race because in mud the Polaris wins, that's proven in the mud drags quoted from this forum, on gravel the polaris has more traction with it's weight so it will hook up better...similiar to the video just posted on this site where it was a tie. The Can Am being lighter on gravel spins a lot more. But if you are talking pavement where both quads have no wheel spin, then because the Can Am with the relatively identical HP and lighter weight; will have the advantage. Considering similiar gearing ratio's.
And I'm still wondering how a power steering unit can possibly lock your steering. What parts can possibly do that, is this an anomoly or did a stick or rock break it and jammed it somehow. My last post never got answered and I am sure for safety reasons everyone would like to know to prevent something like that from happening unless this was some kind special event.
DaveB
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Figure that since one modded XP with crushlocks won a mud race in Alberta that this proves the Poo is the superior mud-runner? LOL. OK.
Talking about the Rimby mud bogs quoted on this site where the 850 xp beat every can am there except a turbo. And what's wrong with Alberta...mud is mud. Prove may be a little strong but in my opinion and with others, the XP is the superior mud quad and at least we have something to back up that statement.
DaveB
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Best take the blinders off and do a little research. One race is not proof. The XP is good, but Canned Hams have been and still are dominating mud races all over North America since the advent of the 800's in 06. Is this XP your first new machine by any chance?Talking about the Rimby mud bogs quoted on this site where the 850 xp beat every can am there except a turbo. And what's wrong with Alberta...mud is mud. Prove may be a little strong but in my opinion and with others, the XP is the superior mud quad and at least we have something to back up that statement.
We all know Paul at Rubberdown is a Polaris guy, right? Well he bought a USED 08 Renegade, put snorks, rad relocate, and crushlocks on 'er. His wife got second (to another Gade) in a race two weeks ago. Here's a quote from Paul: "All that said and done, after the races were over, I got to play in the pit on this new Renegade, and I am pretty sure my popo 850 might be going up for sale to make room for ANOTHER renegade".Hell musta frooze over.... - Can-Am ATV Forum
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DaveB
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Here's some back-up for ya:Talking about the Rimby mud bogs quoted on this site where the 850 xp beat every can am there except a turbo. And what's wrong with Alberta...mud is mud. Prove may be a little strong but in my opinion and with others, the XP is the superior mud quad and at least we have something to back up that statement.
2010 High Lifter ATV & UTV Mud Nationals Results
So we both have a back up, and I will eat my wheaties for now since my knowlege on these two quads racing is really limited. As I said in my first post, I bought a utility quad, not a racer. Most you tube video's Ive seen on these quads in the mud together and the Polaris is ahead but the margins are so close and there are too many factors involved to say for sure who is better in the mud. Your post shows the Can Am on top, so first time Ive seen that. At least the Can Am has one good thing going for it.
quadboy55
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What would that be? TTI? 71HP V-twin? XMR? Onboard aircompressor? piggy back fox float shocks? Dual mode EPS? DESS? Visco-Lok? Or just about on top of every podium in mud racing? GNCC?
The Facts say a lot......
The ride says it all........ :d
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We rode with a guy who had a xmr. It had 200 km on it. 16 km's into our ride he broke a front cv joint.
Not going into a bad hole or anything either.
It was a interesting quad for sure. He never rode. It hard at all. But it broke
Not going into a bad hole or anything either.
It was a interesting quad for sure. He never rode. It hard at all. But it broke
No, it's still only one good thing, and for a utility quad to win a race does not get me all excited to go out and buy one. Everything else you said is trivial or the Polaris has it beat. The video says it all.
mareshow
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I have 30 ish hours on mine and I ride hard like i mean i used to own a sport quad and i ride it the exact same way. So the fact that he's having problems is only for a small amount of the actual XMR owners. The only reason why it seems like a problem is because everyone who has had problems is speaking up. I asked my dealer who when i bought mine had 17 more pre sold and he said they had one back to replace a broken cv. this same dealer sold 80 commanders so you can imagine how many xmrs that is.
here's a pic
DaveB
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This is what's known as a "very narrow point of view". LOL.
quadboy55
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How is it only ONE good thing? How is it trivial? Go look at the MudNats races year to year. Again and again, the majority top 5 are all Can-Am, and 1st place is almost ALWAYS Can-Am. Heck, the top 10 and top 20 are mostly Can-am.
Dude, I own a Kawasaki, that doesn't make it the best quad known to man. I know its a good quad, but if I had 13,000 I'd have an Outlander or a 'Gade.
EXACTLY!
Summiteer
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Thats funny you use a 2 year old video to prove your point about these quads as if nothing has changed. The canam now has power steering ,the only reason it pulled the skid farther is because it weighs a friggin ton........
tukernater
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Shenry - I'm thinking narrow minds have narrow views.
quadboy55
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A 2 year old biased video to boot.
Honestly, take a manufactures promo video with a grain of salt. 100% of the time, the quad a manufacture is going to sell in their promo video, will win all of the time.
It's been proven in Polaris videos, Can-Am videos, Yamaha videos, and Kawasaki videos.
If thats where you choose to get your rock solid evidence from then you are an idiot.
Not to mention, Shenry, that you said one video where a Can-Am came out on top is not enough evidence to prove Can-Ams are better in the mud... Well look whose talking... The very same person to gets all their facts from a friggin' promo video... WOOOOW!!!
Just to summarize so the 850 XP does not lose it's ground in this 800 vs 850 comparison. Polaris guy or not, he likes the renegade because it's more like a race quad over the XP. Like I said before the Polaris is a purpose built utility quad not a racer or mud quad like the XMR, so here is an important list to think about in this 800 Can Am vs Polaris 850XP
Polaris-more pulling power (somewhat important, wouldn't you say)
Can AM - better race quad
Polaris - less handle bar shock with eps or without
Can Am - better race quad
Polaris - Stays cooler longer so it won't overheat
Can Am - better race quad
Polaris - better 4x4 system
Can Am - better race quad
Polaris - Better suspension with more travel, comfortablest ride available
Can Am -better race quad
Polaris - Better engine braking for downhill assists
Can Am - better race quad
Polaris - better price, so with the extra money I can do a lot of things to step all over a stock Can AM even more so.
Can Am -better race quad
Polaris - more sales- I wonder why- is this not how we elect presidents....majority rules so The Polaris 850 XP gets the presidential award, would it not?
Can Am - better race quad...why because it's lighter...because it's lighter the frame has problems and it can't pull as much firewood unless you put the firewood on the racks (for some people on this thread) for more weight but wait the Polaris racks hold more weight then the Can AM??? somewhat important for a utility quad don't you think? (the racks hold more gear)
Polaris - stronger frame
Can Am -better race quad
The Can Am "for" people on this thread remind me of some women, always harping on one thing and therefore we should buy a Can Am, ...."just look at that Polaris guy, Paul, he wants a renegade to race with so he's selling his utility quad to get one so Can Am is better"
My blinders are off and yes I did just buy my XP and for all the above reasons noted and up to this point I've seen XP's do better in the mud then the Can Am. Your posts show differently but I've seen the opposite to that as well via "you tube" and "Rimby" So I will take all the other advantages the XP has as a purpose built utility quad and be on my way
How narrow minded was my last post, not so narrow
