sledslut
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i no longer work at bowcycle. pm steel town. its Lucas from Bow Cycle. he is the sales guy.
Yamaha Nitro or Skidoo Summit X Etech
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i no longer work at bowcycle. pm steel town. its Lucas from Bow Cycle. he is the sales guy.
maxwell
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ya but do you want a nytro or a etec? these are tough decisions you are going to have to make
steel town
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He's a collage boy now, :d:d:d
shukinjive
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Buddy...she's a no brainer!!
That new Etec rips..Ask Ken Reich. By far the best stock sled out there!
I will be buying one by mid month..rode it a few times now and the thing is incredible!
That new Etec rips..Ask Ken Reich. By far the best stock sled out there!
I will be buying one by mid month..rode it a few times now and the thing is incredible!
maxwell
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of course it rips hes running a 3" track. seen it go on sunday
LennyR
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No stock nytro is gonna best a stock 800 skud in the deep snow or hills. The durability and lower cost of maintenance of the yammy is reality, the clutching is far better and way less frustrating. What I see as interesting is where they've taken the pricing, you can actually buy a new boosted nytro for only a couple thousand bucks more than a stock e-tec. Then the choice is gonna become a bit fuzzier for folks unless they wear the BRP vision goggles, cause out inthe hills the only ones who believe the e-tec is gonna better the boosted sled is the e-tec guys who have already made their decision based on color.
maxwell
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weve already discussed that. a nitro with a 180 kit and a summit 800r/etec is going to be about the same. couple people have first hand experience. yup anything over that and its game over for the doo. obviously.
not everyone has brp gogles on. they may make the same hp boosted for the same price but still are a heavier machine you cant dispute that. and for the backcountry rider this is a huge concern. especially myself. trust me i would love the lower mainteenance cost and reliability but im willing to sacrafice that for a more nimble machine. highmarking is not my idea of riding where the nitro shines best
not everyone has brp gogles on. they may make the same hp boosted for the same price but still are a heavier machine you cant dispute that. and for the backcountry rider this is a huge concern. especially myself. trust me i would love the lower mainteenance cost and reliability but im willing to sacrafice that for a more nimble machine. highmarking is not my idea of riding where the nitro shines best
tapex
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Could not have said it any better!
Anyone who says nytro and anything other than summit (with or without e-Tec) in the same sentence obviously has other Brand goggles on.
All brands at times can have an an issue to deal with. Especially those that might lead in a new development, and as we all know, BRP leads in many developments.
In 2008 when their clutch builder changed, Ski-Doo did have some inconsitencies, which got corrected. 2009 was resolved, and 2010 was about as perfect as any brand could do. Today, the Clutching comments are very questionable.
On maintenance, I'd much sooner pour a small amount of good oil into an injection tank than deal with the painful oil-change process and costs that some 4-stroke sleds have.
But that's me.
For the last few, I ride Ski-Doo, cuz year by year they just work better for me than anyting else I've tried, and will continue to -doo so, as long as they continue to lead in or on the snow, goggles or not.
And I have watched a stock e-Tec 800 outrun a boosted Nytro in a fair and simple pull in altitude. Needs more than boost to win, the roost needed money thrown at it too.
All brands at times can have an an issue to deal with. Especially those that might lead in a new development, and as we all know, BRP leads in many developments.
In 2008 when their clutch builder changed, Ski-Doo did have some inconsitencies, which got corrected. 2009 was resolved, and 2010 was about as perfect as any brand could do. Today, the Clutching comments are very questionable.
On maintenance, I'd much sooner pour a small amount of good oil into an injection tank than deal with the painful oil-change process and costs that some 4-stroke sleds have.
But that's me.
For the last few, I ride Ski-Doo, cuz year by year they just work better for me than anyting else I've tried, and will continue to -doo so, as long as they continue to lead in or on the snow, goggles or not.
And I have watched a stock e-Tec 800 outrun a boosted Nytro in a fair and simple pull in altitude. Needs more than boost to win, the roost needed money thrown at it too.
tapex
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Have heard a few people make comment on the new e-tec beating a nytro 180 turbo setup at altitude. I am very surprised. Does the Nytro have a hack install and is the Nytro not properly set up? That is very impressive if the e-tec does beat it!!! Still will never believe it until I see it in person. Doesn't really matter as long as you are having fun though!
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LennyR
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well with respect, I completely disagree, and I'll admit I've not seen an e-tec head to head with a t-nytro, and I'll suggest not many others have either. I have witnessed a few e-tecs in early season snow this year and they do just fine for a stock 800, our first hand experience so far is the e-tec is probably a bit ahead of the RMK and gonna be win-lose with a well running M8. Gonna be pretty interesting when these guys get the Pro's dialed in, methinks we're gonna see a pretty competitive fun sled. Ridden with lots of boosted nytro's and good running 800's and am pretty comfortable betting on the outcome of that comparison in steep and deep conditions, on hard snow, who cares. And your comments re good clutching and being industry leaders, sorry, those 2 comments by themselves are very arbitrary and show you obviusly have a deep rooted bias especially the clutching comment. FYI, I don't own either a etec or a nytro, but I have had a few skuds and one 4 stroke, and the maintenance difference between 2 and 4 stroke is huge. Oil changes, as many as you'll need to do, are hardly an issue.
LennyR
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180 vs 160 hp..
that 20hp dissapears very quick when adding an aditional 100lbs
way far from 20 HP difference at altitude, the difference gets very obvious as you gain altidude
SLY
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180 vs 160 hp..
that 20hp dissapears very quick when adding an aditional 100lbs
180hp vs 115hp.......you do ride at 6500-7000ft ? 10hp takes care of 100lbs quite handily. Who is setting up these turbo's you ride with? Maybe you should ride one of ours. I have a nice stock 162 Nytro here with a 180 kit on that is pretty impressive, I might bring it up over the holidays.
I just couldn't sit back and read any more of this bs without throwing .02 in.
I don't know who is concerned about changing 3.2 litres of oil and a filter once a season. if you can service a chaincase I'm sure you can handle that. Lot's of people get their sleds serviced anyway as there is a lot more to maintenance than oil.
Depsnolvr
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ME PLEASE ME PLEASE ! You guys make awesome sleds, wish i could affordto run one, and Id love to make the calendar again this year.....yahoooooooooooo
Ridin High
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Like stated above every 1000 feet you go up you loose 3% of your beginning HP. As where a Boosted anything, you dont. Just compensate for more boost. As for an ETec running with a Boosted Nytro, i would love to see it overcome that. Dont get me wrong. All sleds have their pros and cons. All people have their likes and dislikes. i ride a boosted Nytro, but i also Sold an XP to ride it. Im not favoring one brand or another, I'm just saying first hand what i've tried and expeirenced.
At the emd of the day, i notice a fair bit of poeple out there have the big ego, the thought "My sled goes better then yours," etc, etc. What it truly boils down to is rider ability and do you have the courage and commitment to point that sled and truly take it to its most upright potential. I've seen alot of people make sleds shine, where one may show that its a bucket.
At the emd of the day, i notice a fair bit of poeple out there have the big ego, the thought "My sled goes better then yours," etc, etc. What it truly boils down to is rider ability and do you have the courage and commitment to point that sled and truly take it to its most upright potential. I've seen alot of people make sleds shine, where one may show that its a bucket.
maxwell
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this is fawkin retarded. the title isnt yamaha nitro with 180 kit or summit x 800etec.
ive never been on a 180 kit and dont care to. thanks for the offer
been on sledsluts whatever it is many of times. impressive to say the least but not for me.
ive been out riding 100 times already this year. proof is on the hill. see ya
ps. turbo sleds DO lose power at altitude. it is just not as high of %
ive never been on a 180 kit and dont care to. thanks for the offer
been on sledsluts whatever it is many of times. impressive to say the least but not for me.
ive been out riding 100 times already this year. proof is on the hill. see ya
ps. turbo sleds DO lose power at altitude. it is just not as high of %
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powerteker
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who rides stock anyhow?? a 180 kit nytro would destroy my modded rev.....I know because I rode the nytro 180 last week and it dosen't even compare! and I'm sure that my rev is faster than a new xp!
maxwell
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got hanguards or what?
what do you mean who rides stock anyhow?
most people do. why mess with something that works. ive been riding for a long time now and have never felt a need for a 200+hp sled for my style of riding. especially if im going to be dead by lunch time.
track length?
lug height?
start comparing apples to apples
i never once said a 180 nitro will not take out a new xp but there are alot of factors involved in doing so.
for example. who the fawk cares about a highmark
did anyone even ask what style of riding this guy does? LOL
sure if he wants to highmark until he kills himself nitro all the way!
NITRO RULES!!!! NITRO RULES!!!! NITRO RULES!!!!
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powerteker
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yup good for 10hp lol
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