Hear, hear to that! It takes nothing to find a Sami-dump. Just need to be a little less impatient and be a lot more considerate.
Lions Campground Red Deer = Crooks
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Hear, hear to that! It takes nothing to find a Sami-dump. Just need to be a little less impatient and be a lot more considerate.
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I think 50 would be kind of steep, but I do understand your point. I think a non camper should pay at another campsite to dump, regardless if it goes into a tank or down the city sewer.
imdoo'n
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Yes they can charge what they want. There should be some major fines for the dips dumping in the bush or on the roads
Mike270412
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I'm gonna have to cause my neighbor's lawn is waaay greener than mine
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I actually bought a pump. I do it at home now. Just run a garden hose to the clean out opening. This way I can flush as many times as I want and now standing in my sandals in a inch of what I hope is water!
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Bogger
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Living out at the lake now it costs me $200 every 3 or 4 weeks to have our tank pumped out... Even into a city system there is a cost, especially if it ends up in a treatment plant.
And it's not like the guy pumping it out is getting rich.... He pays $6.18 a cubic meter for dissposal ($68), fuel & maintenance for his truck, his time AND lets not forget it's a chitty job...
My concern is the fact that we as a society see no issue with mixing our Black & Grey water, I would think that it would be much less difficult and inexpensive to treat grey water which makes up 80% of our waste water, yet we combine it with the black & treat it together.
And it's not like the guy pumping it out is getting rich.... He pays $6.18 a cubic meter for dissposal ($68), fuel & maintenance for his truck, his time AND lets not forget it's a chitty job...
My concern is the fact that we as a society see no issue with mixing our Black & Grey water, I would think that it would be much less difficult and inexpensive to treat grey water which makes up 80% of our waste water, yet we combine it with the black & treat it together.
How are we going to separate the grey water from the chit with out re-plumbing everyones house, every building, every sewer and a new treatment plant? Sounds like a good Idea for future sewer systems but redoing the existing infrastructure would be too costly.
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I think new houses in red deer have been plumbed that way for awhile
What about the sewer?
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Because I already pay the GD city every month to take my wastewater but they city won't give me a permit to install a sani dump in my yard. And because wastewater charges are based on fresh water usage, I pay for it every time I put 110gal of water in my trailer from my hose and then again when I get back to dump they or somebody wants more money. It adds up if you camp alot.
Like Gymbrat said, it's like paying extra for the air in your tire.
I got no prob with 4 or 5 bucks to pay some kid to hose the loose turds n paper down the pipe once or twice a day, but $10 is ridiculous IMO. ESPECIALLY considering the year before it was $5-which really was my only bitch. Now I know it changed hands it makes sense I guess. Like I said-Crooks!
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Bogger
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I get that, and the cost is not worth retrofitting existing systems but it would be something to consider moving forward. I never considered it until buying the new place and figuring out that 80% of our household waste water comes from showers/laundry/dishes and was thinking about the cost to treat all that waste water as if it were black.
If I could divert only my tiolets to a tank and filter my grey water onsite then I would only have to pump out twice a year as opposed to 17 times. Because we are within 150' of the shoreline our only options are a tank or a $30K + 3 phase sand filter system which treats all waste water. I would just think the treatment of grey could be done a lot more inexpensively...
I looked into the greywater flushing systems ray and it is a help but it only recycles that 20% of wastewater generated by toilets. a good start but I think we can do better.
I could be way off, maybe with the detergents & soaps used grey water is just as difficult to treat, but I would not think so.
Anyway... sorry for the off topic but waste water dissposal is not just an RV issue, we are all going to have to face quickly increasing costs to disspose of waste water unless you are on a traditional septic field system.
If I could divert only my tiolets to a tank and filter my grey water onsite then I would only have to pump out twice a year as opposed to 17 times. Because we are within 150' of the shoreline our only options are a tank or a $30K + 3 phase sand filter system which treats all waste water. I would just think the treatment of grey could be done a lot more inexpensively...
I looked into the greywater flushing systems ray and it is a help but it only recycles that 20% of wastewater generated by toilets. a good start but I think we can do better.
I could be way off, maybe with the detergents & soaps used grey water is just as difficult to treat, but I would not think so.
Anyway... sorry for the off topic but waste water dissposal is not just an RV issue, we are all going to have to face quickly increasing costs to disspose of waste water unless you are on a traditional septic field system.
imdoo'n
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hello
i wouldn't call them crooks as such, they probably just don't want you dumping there, it is set up for the campers using the site, and not for those that just want to dump shiit. if your concerned about your taxes and costs associated with your water and sewage, the sewage treatment plant is free to dump, lots of room, easy access and on the same road. so really your bitchin about nothing, still lots of places to dump your trailer other than the lions campground.
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Your missing my point. Last year it was $5 this year it's more than double. That's my bitch. For years it was no issue. $4. It's convenient. Easy access, and on the way home. Now all of a sudden your suggesting it is an issue for them??? If they don't want people dumping there then it's simple-don't let them.
And I never knew the city sewage plant had a dump site let alone where it was. Nobody I know has ever mentioned it or used it so either there is a reason for it or like me nobody knows about it. In however many posts your the first one to even mention it.
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imdoo'n
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all ya gotta do is ask.
as to if they want you to dump at the lions campground, by raising the price it gets the job done and still leaves it open to those who want to pay. so far it seems to work, as those who don't want to pay seem to go somewhere else.
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