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You are correct and our prime minister seems to not want to get involved. A 1 hour 45 minute meeting that’s it. Alberta and Saskatchewan would do way better off being part of the USA. This pipeline simply won’t get built and the ndp budget is based on that it will. Now what nothead? Well let’s hope we get Kenny in power and when it’s time for renegotiation of the transfer payments this is dissolved or minimizes as the rest of the country wants nothing to do with Alberta and Saskatchewan.
**** joining the states.

If Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta got together and maybe some of the normal BC folks for a nice civil war to get rid of the trash we could have a nice little western civilization.

Time for war.
 

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You are correct and our prime minister seems to not want to get involved. A 1 hour 45 minute meeting that’s it. Alberta and Saskatchewan would do way better off being part of the USA. This pipeline simply won’t get built and the ndp budget is based on that it will. Now what nothead? Well let’s hope we get Kenny in power and when it’s time for renegotiation of the transfer payments this is dissolved or minimizes as the rest of the country wants nothing to do with Alberta and Saskatchewan.
I for one didn't expect anything would come out of the 3 stooges having a meeting.
 

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Lip service to Notley and off to France he goes.
 
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Nothead should approach Trump and run the pipeline south then west. He would take his cut but it would happen and KM would rather deal with someone with a set. The meeting was 1 hr 45 min. what a joke.

Trump wants Canadian oil landlocked so he can continue to feed his gulf coast refineries with cheap oil. US has nothing to gain in getting Canada's most important export to tidewater.

**** joining the states.

If Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta got together and maybe some of the normal BC folks for a nice civil war to get rid of the trash we could have a nice little western civilization.

Time for war.
Draw a line at Hope, Lower Mainland, Vancouver Island and the Charlottes are on their own.
 

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Trump wants Canadian oil landlocked so he can continue to feed his gulf coast refineries with cheap oil. US has nothing to gain in getting Canada's most important export to tidewater.


Draw a line at Hope, Lower Mainland, Vancouver Island and the Charlottes are on their own.
Plus Alberta is a really convenient place to store a whole lot of oil for when you really need it.
 

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Of course the usual rabble have gathered beating their drums and repeating the tired old rhetoric. Hopefully the blockades will receive criminal response now. What is wrong with asking for world class spill repsponse -that alone can be a worldwide industry grown right here. Far too sensible I know. It is only the negative side that gets airtime and I don’t get it.
 

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So gas and diesel will no longer be shipped via pipeline. They will be trucked or sent by train to Vancouver.... there goes more expenses to BC gas/diesel fuel. Prepare for the price jump at the pumps.
 

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So Nutley is bringing in legislation to turn off the taps and limit trucking to BC, big deal, why not just stop payments to the feds, Hornan won't listen until the feds say he has to.
 

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Plus Alberta is a really convenient place to store a whole lot of oil for when you really need it.
Exactly, if things go really sideways in the middle east or with Russia there is a big ol supply of domestic oil from your friendly northern hat.
 

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So Nutley is bringing in legislation to turn off the taps and limit trucking to BC, big deal, why not just stop payments to the feds, Hornan won't listen until the feds say he has to.

Can Notley really do that tho without just cause?. Telling a company to shut down and loose money over a provincial political dispute just to prove a point?? That shutdown would start a financial ripple effect throughout AB. It would be easier and cheaper for the company to scrap the expansion, all together.


I dont see this happening, what company would agree to this without compensation of their financial losses. IMO that may hurt AB more than help.
 

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Trump wants Canadian oil landlocked so he can continue to feed his gulf coast refineries with cheap oil. US has nothing to gain in getting Canada's most important export to tidewater.


Draw a line at Hope, Lower Mainland, Vancouver Island and the Charlottes are on their own.

Haha. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to blame Trump for all this crap.
The pipeline will never be built. Every politician involved has no interest in seeing the oil industry succeed. Notley has been a vocal supporter of shutting down the oil sands for years, and is now only paying lip service to standing up for Alberta because she has to for any hope of keeping her job. She also has no stomach for a fight.
Trudeau as well has been a vocal opponent of the oil sands, and the liberal party and the eastern Canadian power brokers for decades have done their best to suppress western Canadian prosperity, and would love nothing better than to see Alberta and Saskatchewan barely scratch to survive bankruptcy. All Trudeau has to do is delay this until Kinder Morgan walks away. (And they will walk away).
Horrigan, as slimy a politician as he is, is no different than any other BC premier of the last 40 years. In the eyes of B.C. politicians, the rest of the province exists to support the lower mainland and the entitled socialists that live there. Every political party in the history of B.C. has actively suppressed the rest of the province to develop and support the lower mainland. The third world road and infrastructure systems of the rest of B.C. is ample evidence of that. North eastern B.C. , the Shuswap,the okanagan valley, the invermere valley are only growing and prospering because of Alberta money. It’s offshore investment money that keeps Vancouver and the surrounding areas running, and the liberal elites and politicians could care less about the rest of B.C. The billions that the pipeline would bring to the interior of the province and the jobs and prosperity that would come with it are a threat to the power base in the lower mainland. They don’t want the rest of B.C. to succeed.
The really scary part of this is the repercussions that will be felt when Kinder Morgan walks away. It will be a signal to the world that Canada is not open for any business that seeks to develop our abundant natural resources. Oil, mining, timber and big Agri-business will at best maintain their operations in Canada but will never invest new money. The governments can hint at backstopping the pipeline financially, but no businessmen in their right mind would trust the gaggle of clowns we have running things. They’ll simply take their money and talents and invest elsewhere.
 
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