Aboriginal protests in Canada.

[Nathansharkey]

I personally think that the government needs to look after the people that cannot look after themselves. I pay my taxes so I don't have to live in a world of impoverished and suffering people and feel anxious about those people robbing and stealing from the ones with the privilege of being raised to make something of themselves. The starving will steal from the gluttons if it means survival. That being said, we already give a lot of our tax money to the First Nations People and they are still living in poverty and starving and that's because of the corruption that has found a way to break in to that culture and take ahold of those people. This culture in the reserves today is really one of pure selfishness and lost dreams. The unrest that you see is the result of the frustrations and jealousy and disappointment that those people have within their own lives and the ones that are the most corrupt on the reserve have redirected this anger towards the government which makes it easier for those on the protest to unite against. Just a viscous game of smoke and mirrors. I spend a lot of time working with First Nations people in the industry and I hear from them all the time how alienated that they have become with their own people because of their desire to find the pride in a sense o hard work and accomplishment. The band council do not want the people of their reservations to make anything for them self or move off because if the natives were to stand on their own 2 feet, then they would no longer get all the money from the government for them to steal from the natives on the reserves. It's almost like a drug dealer keeping their customers high and hooked on their drugs so they keep making the money.

 

[Barry Barton]

True, they need to be accountable like every other citizen.

To lay blame, only sparks further animosity. That goes BOTH directions. The facts have to be laid onto the table and dealt with, governed by their own representatives.

so u want to be given money from the goverment and then be governed by your own peaple but not be accountable for the money they spend, can I have that deal because u need to find out where all the money is going and claim u want more. So gee u wounder why we want to no where the money is going because it's going somewear but not to the majority of the native population so why are they hiding the information, I would take a close look if I was u

 

[bourgon]

they should have scalped every whitey the day the boat landed .

Wow and if I said some thing like that about the natives I would get burned at the stake on here and then kicked of the site for being racist! Pecfull my ass!

 

[bourgon]

Myself and the other people on this forum may disagree. But the only one that should be scalped is you and i think the other members would agree with me on this.

First time I agree with you!

 

[bourgon]

True, they need to be accountable like every other citizen.

To lay blame, only sparks further animosity. That goes BOTH directions. The facts have to be laid onto the table and dealt with, governed by their own representatives.

They have proven that for the exception of a very few that they can't!

 

[CUSO]

I would love to answer that, but I don't understand what you are trying to write..

so u want to be given money from the goverment and then be governed by your own peaple but not be accountable for the money they spend, can I have that deal because u need to find out where all the money is going and claim u want more. So gee u wounder why we want to no where the money is going because it's going somewear but not to the majority of the native population so why are they hiding the information, I would take a close look if I was u

 

[bourgon]

I dunno. Why don't we just give the money to the people instead of the chiefs....band councils....whatever? Maybe once they see what they're "supposed" to be getting they're ideas will change.

That will never work if the leaders piss it away what do you think masses will do they don't even have the ability to support them self. Education and integration! And no more reserves they are just cesspool!

 

[CUSO]

How so?

I think the native program is loosy goosy. they need to get accountable people to represent the poorly run places. To say there is no one able to be accountable, is just plain profiling.

They have proven that for the exception of a very few that they can't!

 

[rzrgade]

This is running on fumes...........How about those blue jackets?

 

[Barry Barton]

I would love to answer that, but I don't understand what you are trying to write..

U want goverment money but u want to control it yourself without being accountable for where it goes. is that easier for u

 

[CUSO]

No. I still can't decipher. Are you asking me something, or telling me something?

U want goverment money but u want to control it yourself without being accountable for where it goes. is that easier for u

 

[Barry Barton]

How so?

I think the native program is loosy goosy. they need to get accountable people to represent the poorly run places. To say there is no one able to be accountable, is just plain profiling.

I guess u haven't seen to many reservation because they look like ch!t and wheres all the money going too and all they want is more or they don't want anybody looking at the books so whos being accountable.

 

[Nathansharkey]

How so?

I think the native program is loosy goosy. they need to get accountable people to represent the poorly run places. To say there is no one able to be accountable, is just plain profiling.

You clearly don't understand the politics involved with the reserves. If you put someone in place, they will be despised by their people. If that person is elected, they will be despised by holding those that they hold accountable. Then that person will be elected out at the very first opportunity and be alienated by their own people and considered to be shunned. The very reason why the First Nations people lost their land was because they sold out to the modern world is the same reason why they are still suffering today. Have you guys ever watched the movie called the Gods must be crazy? The native culture never used to have the problems that they do today. Their numbers are actually shrinking in terms of population. This is because of all of the health issues that they experience today. Diabetes and alcohol and drug abuse and birth issues related to STD's and alcohol and drug abuse are really taking over. Cancer is absolutely growing with numbers increasing at 5 times the rate than any other race in Canada. This is because they have sold out their culture to jealousy, depression and addiction. This has had a huge impact on the mental health and abuse and personality disorders which are left untreated and obviously keep passing down from generation to generation.

First Nations people need to demand more from themselves. Not from tax payers. That is the only way that they will ever hope to find any sense of value or self worth and true pride in being a First Nation.

They need to light the fires from with in. Lighting a fire under them will not work. It only produces short term results at best.

To any I those that feel that white man suffers from racism, don't kid yourself. The hostility towards the white man is growing strong inside of these reservations. Racism is a problem for the majority of First Nations that feel that the white man has duped them and taken their land. The truth is that the Indians sold out their culture and their values when they wanted what we had. The majority have traded away their history and future legacies for a bottle and they blame the white man for that. They are most comfortable if they remain in a state of being the victim which allows them to use the past stories of how they got screwed over and list their land when in fact they sold them selves out and continue to do so today by accepting every unearned dollar to sell out their children and their children's children. It is easy and comfortable for them to do so when they lose their dreams in a bottle or through a pipe. It is so sad.

 

[whitegold]

completely uncalled for!!!!

 

[High Velocity]

completely uncalled for!!!!

Which comment are you referring to ?


Sent from my iPad when I should be sledding.

 

[whitegold]

Which comment are you referring to ?


Sent from my iPad when I should be sledding.

The comment I was referring to was removed by Quadtrash.... it was really nasty, aimed at CUSO, totally inappropriate!!!

 

[bourgon]

You clearly don't understand the politics involved with the reserves. If you put someone in place, they will be despised by their people. If that person is elected, they will be despised by holding those that they hold accountable. Then that person will be elected out at the very first opportunity and be alienated by their own people and considered to be shunned. The very reason why the First Nations people lost their land was because they sold out to the modern world is the same reason why they are still suffering today. Have you guys ever watched the movie called the Gods must be crazy? The native culture never used to have the problems that they do today. Their numbers are actually shrinking in terms of population. This is because of all of the health issues that they experience today. Diabetes and alcohol and drug abuse and birth issues related to STD's and alcohol and drug abuse are really taking over. Cancer is absolutely growing with numbers increasing at 5 times the rate than any other race in Canada. This is because they have sold out their culture to jealousy, depression and addiction. This has had a huge impact on the mental health and abuse and personality disorders which are left untreated and obviously keep passing down from generation to generation.

First Nations people need to demand more from themselves. Not from tax payers. That is the only way that they will ever hope to find any sense of value or self worth and true pride in being a First Nation.

They need to light the fires from with in. Lighting a fire under them will not work. It only produces short term results at best.

To any I those that feel that white man suffers from racism, don't kid yourself. The hostility towards the white man is growing strong inside of these reservations. Racism is a problem for the majority of First Nations that feel that the white man has duped them and taken their land. The truth is that the Indians sold out their culture and their values when they wanted what we had. The majority have traded away their history and future legacies for a bottle and they blame the white man for that. They are most comfortable if they remain in a state of being the victim which allows them to use the past stories of how they got screwed over and list their land when in fact they sold them selves out and continue to do so today by accepting every unearned dollar to sell out their children and their children's children. It is easy and comfortable for them to do so when they lose their dreams in a bottle or through a pipe. It is so sad.

So true!!!

 

[Summiteer]

You clearly don't understand the politics involved with the reserves. If you put someone in place, they will be despised by their people. If that person is elected, they will be despised by holding those that they hold accountable. Then that person will be elected out at the very first opportunity and be alienated by their own people and considered to be shunned. The very reason why the First Nations people lost their land was because they sold out to the modern world is the same reason why they are still suffering today. Have you guys ever watched the movie called the Gods must be crazy? The native culture never used to have the problems that they do today. Their numbers are actually shrinking in terms of population. This is because of all of the health issues that they experience today. Diabetes and alcohol and drug abuse and birth issues related to STD's and alcohol and drug abuse are really taking over. Cancer is absolutely growing with numbers increasing at 5 times the rate than any other race in Canada. This is because they have sold out their culture to jealousy, depression and addiction. This has had a huge impact on the mental health and abuse and personality disorders which are left untreated and obviously keep passing down from generation to generation.

First Nations people need to demand more from themselves. Not from tax payers. That is the only way that they will ever hope to find any sense of value or self worth and true pride in being a First Nation.

They need to light the fires from with in. Lighting a fire under them will not work. It only produces short term results at best.

To any I those that feel that white man suffers from racism, don't kid yourself. The hostility towards the white man is growing strong inside of these reservations. Racism is a problem for the majority of First Nations that feel that the white man has duped them and taken their land. The truth is that the Indians sold out their culture and their values when they wanted what we had. The majority have traded away their history and future legacies for a bottle and they blame the white man for that. They are most comfortable if they remain in a state of being the victim which allows them to use the past stories of how they got screwed over and list their land when in fact they sold them selves out and continue to do so today by accepting every unearned dollar to sell out their children and their children's children. It is easy and comfortable for them to do so when they lose their dreams in a bottle or through a pipe. It is so sad.

are you making all of this ch!t up?
Over the last 25 years, the urban Aboriginal population in Canada has been growing steadily. In some cases, particularly in the larger cities, the Aboriginal population has more than doubled. For example, in Winnipeg, Manitoba, the Aboriginal population reached nearly 68,000 or 10% of the population – more than four times higher than it was 25 years earlier.

 

[Snowdin]

maybe its time the reserves and all the money that gets allocated should be accountable just like a large corporation that needs to be responsible to the shareholders (the Canadian tax payer). Run it like a business, pay dividends to the people and profit sharing plus bonuses to the leaders that have done a good job. Each reserve should have a board of governors consisting of first nations, and non first nations. In other words, use the money given to generate more and have the community prosper from there.

This sounds good.
I wrote my MP and said: As a tax paying Canadian citizen I want to see the books on the Department of Aboriginal and Northern Affairs. I want to know where the money is going. Will you provide that information to me? No response.

 

[mxzretta]

This sounds good.
I wrote my MP and said: As a tax paying Canadian citizen I want to see the books on the Department of Aboriginal and Northern Affairs. I want to know where the money is going. Will you provide that information to me? No response.

We all know that a lot of the reserves do not put their money to good use. But in reality its no different then the elected officials in our government. Redford for example wasted money on the Olympics and lets not forget the whole fighter jet fiascal. And why the hell do we keep sending millions to Africa its a continent not a country and there is a lot of wealthy countries there. So when we send money to Africa where does it go? Instead of getting pissed off at the natives how about start asking the government to open all their books. Politicians are always to generous spending our hard earned tax dollars and wasting it.