XP driveshafts

[dieselmech_22]

You can say this about any thing you buy...I bought an 07 GMC CC D-max and had to take it in for repairs( under warrenty ) but the point is this isn`t the first truck they`ve built and it isn`t a new model( I got the Classic) you would think they would have the bugs worked out by now. So $13000 for a new sled and it has faults or $60,000 for a new truck and it has faults. If my sled breaks and I can`t fix it I lose out on the weekend...about $250 for the weekend, If my truck fails and its in for repairs I lose about $400-$500 per day. There seems to be more complaining about a recreation toy that we abuse the crap out of, than things that make a person money. But I`m like everyone else if I buy something I want it to work perfect out of the box too.

I fully agree with you, I have been having this same discussionabout almost every consumer item lately nothing seems to work well anymore even million dollar machines at work break down all the time But 30-40 miles in on the side of the mountain I don't want headaches, I have had quite a few sleds so far in the late 80's and all through the 90's and I seem to keep having problems with every skidoo I buy all the other guys that I ride with have doo's some have problems some don't but the yammies I have owned never a problem and other than a damaged trailing arm on a polaris (my fault) never a problem skidoo I had a head gasket fail on my 2000 had clutch/ belt problems with it (purchased new) and now my summit 1000 scored cylinders at 847kms (still not 100% sure what did it) it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. the yammie guys seem to be problem free turn the key and go even the turbo and supercharged guys! I am not a brand preference guy but I really tried to do the doo!

 

[twin turbo]

your 1000 probably scored a cylinder for the same reason mine just did,,,fuel pump...if they get a little weak thats what happens...
Better check it if you just rebuilt your motor,dont wont to do that again..

 

[.08rider]

Anyone out here good at math?? Ever count how many more Doo's on the hill?? They out number all other makes combined, everywhere! I have been sledding for 15 years in the mountains and have rode them all, they all breakdown. When you have twice as many sleds out there you will here of twice as many breakdowns. Ever here of poltalk? No, not enough riders out there to make it work. XP's are great out of the box sleds, with some bugs for sure, my hands have been cold since mile six at Renshaw first time out. I have 360 miles on my belt with no problems so far.I have rode with at least 20 other new XP's in the last 4 trips to the mountains and have not seen first hand any of the other major issues out there, that is not just with my group, but everyone out there, anyone else? Two weeks ago I watched the trapper pull an arctic cat and a polairs over the saddle, get it, they all breakdown. Law of average says, more sleds, more breakdowns. Every single Doo dealer snow checked at least 150 x sleds this year, plus counter sales, even with this new Dragon, I'll bet both Polairs dealers did not snow check 150 together. My two cents, anyway. My 08' has dragged my fat ass over some pretty steep and deep hills this year, if you want more, don't be a pussy and get your wallet out of your wifes purse, my 06' mod has over 30 grand into it. My 08' is not far behind it!! DOO LIVES AND CLIMBS FOREVER!!

 

[.08rider]

I also forgot to thank Barry for his unbais opinion!! And thanks again Barry for all your hard work with the cabin, it looks great!! We usually come with five or six guys have you got enough beds for all of us? We would like to ride with you one of these days.

 

[j335]

That maybe so but it suppose to be mounted at the back of the seat.

It was mounted on a 163", near the back of the light. Look in your owners manual, this is where they say its supposed to mount.... However the gas can was designed for the MXZ....
The reason theres more skidoos on the hill is because most people grew up riding Skidoos there whole life.... I used to ride Skidoos, but I'm not brand loyal and when I read up on buying a sled I realized skidoo does not have the reliability like other sleds, so I decided to buy a cat....

 

[Sleeper700]

It was mounted on a 163", near the back of the light. Look in your owners manual, this is where they say its supposed to mount.... However the gas can was designed for the MXZ....

No... the jerry can was shaped so that it would fit behind the seat of ALL of the models, and still not hit the tail light. The short track models are what caused the V-shaped part of the jerry can. No matter what model you have, it should be mounted near the seat. Have you ever seen any other sled with a jerry can mount at the back of the tunnel? The amount of force pushing down on the tunnel is increased greatly the further back you mount the jerry can (not good when trying not to trench in while climbing), and the tunnel would have to be reinforced to properly handle the weight that far back, increasing weight near the back of the sled (not exactly what you would want for climbing either). Anyone who had questions about how to mount their jerry can should have phoned their dealer. Any good dealer will confirm that the jerry can should be behind the seat.

P.S. 400Km on my XP and the only thing that has failed is the handwarmers. I got the update when I got my 10 hour inspection done. Still first belt, and there is no shortage of power anywhere. Jerry @ Martin did a great job with the clutching right off the start.

 

[j335]

No... the jerry can was shaped so that it would fit behind the seat of ALL of the models, and still not hit the tail light. The short track models are what caused the V-shaped part of the jerry can. No matter what model you have, it should be mounted near the seat. Have you ever seen any other sled with a jerry can mount at the back of the tunnel? The amount of force pushing down on the tunnel is increased greatly the further back you mount the jerry can (not good when trying not to trench in while climbing), and the tunnel would have to be reinforced to properly handle the weight that far back, increasing weight near the back of the sled (not exactly what you would want for climbing either). Anyone who had questions about how to mount their jerry can should have phoned their dealer. Any good dealer will confirm that the jerry can should be behind the seat.

P.S. 400Km on my XP and the only thing that has failed is the handwarmers. I got the update when I got my 10 hour inspection done. Still first belt, and there is no shortage of power anywhere. Jerry @ Martin did a great job with the clutching right off the start.

Your absolutely right, the dealer told him to mount it behind the seat but of course my buddy had to follow the manual... I'm not knocking the XP, its the best performer out there....

 

[Dobir]

Have a look at Hightech Rednecks posting on Sled Revelstoke..he pulls no punches..ouch!!

 

[Lococoin]

Have a look at Hightech Rednecks posting on Sled Revelstoke..he pulls no punches..ouch!!

I wish he would just tell us how he really feels

 

[dieselmech_22]

No... the jerry can was shaped so that it would fit behind the seat of ALL of the models, and still not hit the tail light. The short track models are what caused the V-shaped part of the jerry can. No matter what model you have, it should be mounted near the seat. Have you ever seen any other sled with a jerry can mount at the back of the tunnel? The amount of force pushing down on the tunnel is increased greatly the further back you mount the jerry can (not good when trying not to trench in while climbing), and the tunnel would have to be reinforced to properly handle the weight that far back, increasing weight near the back of the sled (not exactly what you would want for climbing either). Anyone who had questions about how to mount their jerry can should have phoned their dealer. Any good dealer will confirm that the jerry can should be behind the seat.

P.S. 400Km on my XP and the only thing that has failed is the handwarmers. I got the update when I got my 10 hour inspection done. Still first belt, and there is no shortage of power anywhere. Jerry @ Martin did a great job with the clutching right off the start.

jerry@martin really seems to be good to deal with just wanted to toss that in,it's tough to find good people in alberta lately he was really good when I had some questions on my 1000.

 

[glengine]

I have heard that there is an issue with the driveshafts. It's not that they are breakin, it's that the center section is spinning on the ends.. Cause it is a multiple peice unit if i remeber right. It also could just be that the stock drivers suck.. You need to run your track to tight for my liking anyway.. I don't care what brand you buy they all have there issues, and they all have their good and bad traits/qualities.. But on an xp 163 if you mount your gas can at the snow flap end of your tunnel you will bend your tunnel.. Think about it hangin like 30lbs way out there with all the bouncing down the traill... Come on give your head a shake what do you expect unless you ride like an 80 year old grandma...

 

[Scotty]

Think about it hangin like 30lbs way out there with all the bouncing down the traill... Come on give your head a shake what do you expect unless you ride like an 80 year old grandma...

It still should'nt bend or buckle, the manufactures give us this space to use for what????... (the rear end of the tunnel with the plastic mounting fixtures etc. fixed to the top of the tunnel). They know the guys who ride these sleds put Jerry cans there??? It should NEVER bend or buckle under the weight it is suggested to hold? (a gas can?) Maybe it's a weak design???

 

[glengine]

It is a lightweight mountain sled.. That is what it was designed as.. If you read all of the mounting instructions it says to mount gas can at rear of seat and you can put stuff like packs behind that.. I know a guy that has done that and not had an issue at all.. And he don't ride like a granny... When you ride a lightweight mountain sled you need to think about stuff like that.. They just aren't built as heavy and tough as there cats.. But next years M's i don't think are going to any better for strength... New model coming....

 

[Scotty]

It is a lightweight mountain sled.. That is what it was designed as.. If you read all of the mounting instructions it says to mount gas can at rear of seat and you can put stuff like packs behind that.. I know a guy that has done that and not had an issue at all.. And he don't ride like a granny... When you ride a lightweight mountain sled you need to think about stuff like that.. They just aren't built as heavy and tough as there cats.. But next years M's i don't think are going to any better for strength... New model coming....

Do you have any particulars on the new mountain chassis? Is it based on the new Sno Pro 600? If you have any tid bits I'd like to hear em.

One way to avoid the tunnel bending would be to carry an empty gas can up to the top of the hill and then fill it when you're up there... how come I always think of this stuff first?

 

[Summiteer]

Do you have any particulars on the new mountain chassis? Is it based on the new Sno Pro 600? If you have any tid bits I'd like to hear em.

One way to avoid the tunnel bending would be to carry an empty gas can up to the top of the hill and then fill it when you're up there... how come I always think of this stuff first?

You seem to approach everything from a slightly different angle than everyone else......if you fill it at the top then leave it at the cabin, you'd have even less chance of hurting the tunnel

 

[4extreme]

You seem to approach everything from a slightly different angle than everyone else......if you fill it at the top then leave it at the cabin, you'd have even less chance of hurting the tunnel

I just carry a hose and when no ones looking...I fill up.

 

[Scotty]

You seem to approach everything from a slightly different angle than everyone else......if you fill it at the top then leave it at the cabin, you'd have even less chance of hurting the tunnel

Summiteer, that is even more clever! You and I should start our own "Snowmobilers consulting" business If you put up all the money, I'll give you 49% of the business ... for nothing! Sound good?

 

[snochuk]

Do you have any particulars on the new mountain chassis? Is it based on the new Sno Pro 600? If you have any tid bits I'd like to hear em.

One way to avoid the tunnel bending would be to carry an empty gas can up to the top of the hill and then fill it when you're up there... how come I always think of this stuff first?

If they want it to sell and doo well in the big hills they better design it after a doo

 

[BIGFOOT]

One can always do Mtn top fueling from the chopper & not even pack a fuel pail !!!

 

[SLEDBUNNYRACING]

I try to ride with woosey riders that never crest a hill, they don't use much fuel so I can always use theirs...works for me...lol