Wiebo dead

[imdoo'n]

Wiebo was a fanatical nut job who had a very narrow of view on the ways things should be, he had a religion, that most of us would agree, was extreme. I believe part of the controversy was started when they started doing flarings close to his property. Thery were asked to stop, but they didn't as someone had a lot of money tied up in the exploration. Obvously it went downhill from there. I suspect that measures were take to purposely piss the guy off. It still happens today. Just look at bill 50 to see where this leads to. Big oil is into making money plain and simple, and heaven help anyone who would stand in the way. Oil and gas is huge in alberta and without it Alberta would be nothing but a farming outpost. I can see that everyone has a point of view that are very passionate about and we are never going to come to concensus if we remain so polarized. Big business regardless of field has a habit of ignoring inconvient annoyances if it going to get in the way of profit and if you are so niave to not see that I am sorry. However there is a lot of NIMBY that does go on and it happens. What Wiebo did was acts of terrorism and should be treated as such but remember he was pushed and people did really stupid things. When I was growing up in NS we had a neighbour that we knew was nuts and the last thing any one did was to provoke him, why the kids went on the property was just insane. Everyone knew what he was capable of, so why tempt fate? Problem is he is not the only one on that farm so is this the end or just the beginning. Good discussion leads to understanding keep the conversation going. Who has beer?

bravo, great insight, and more beer.





there are nut jobs in every community, locals know enough to watch out for. big money will and has done nothing for our benefit unless forced to. through out history one guys hero is anothers terrorist.

 

[bobsledder]

so how to you feel about knight out at bashaw shooting at "kids". doing just what kids do. i see the same thing, although sure a lot of supporters on this site, hypocrites I'd say and on this site. WTF

knight out at Bashaw shooting at Kids...what are you talking about?

 

[snopro]

knight out at Bashaw shooting at Kids...what are you talking about?

I believe he is talking about the farmer that shot at quad thieves in Bashaw that got all the publicity awhile back Bert.

 

[tex78]

The good news, Lar, is: if you ever get tired of your current job, yer a shoe-in to work as a fact-twister for a liberal newspaper....

Knight blasting at some stoned thieves (not suspected thieves...they were leaving his property RIDING his property) with bird shot in a 20 gauge is not the same as shooting joy-riding teens with a high powered hunting rifle.

so ur saying larry should be the new bob scumbag?????????????????????????






on a lighter note .... there would be knee caps broken via gun point [ with gun stock ends ] .... but not shoot to kill ......................

weibo was the biggest nut bag azzhat [ just one lower than piction ] in alberta ... i swear he's from montana for there abouts [ east or west or south ... mabe caroline too ]

 

[imdoo'n]

alhambra, i heard, haha

 

[imdoo'n]

not to hard to see who the oil field workers are?

 

[senorjeem]

Anyone who says that Oil companies indiscriminately vent gas here or there, or deliberately illegally dump stuff, or flare unnecessarily is slapping the face of every honest oil patch worker on this site. You don't see Senior VP's out in the field telling their people to do these things, so by default the workers must be making those bad decisions on behalf of the oil companies. bullch!t!! Not in todays patch. Flaring as a part of a well test or to recover fluids is a necessary part of responsible resource management. Some of these wells won't even have pipelines connected to them to produce down until they prove out in a test environment. Poor resource management in the past led to only 20% of the total reserves in the Turner Valley field being recovered because the gas cap was flared off as the oil was being pumped. That mistake is not being repeated today. To say that a terrorist blowing up wellsite equipment that would result in innocent deaths of oil patch workers and the collateral damage or death to surrounding stakeholders, and would result in the venting or flaring of more gas than normal activities in a year is so absurd as to warrant a slap.

PROUD TO WORK IN THE PATCH FOR 33 YEARS.

 

[bobsledder]

i swear he's from montana for there abouts [ east or west or south ... mabe caroline too ]

That there is funny....but true if you have ever been west of Sundre on the way out to Limestone

 

[bobsledder]

not to hard to see who the oil field workers are?

That would be me

 

[bobsledder]

I believe he is talking about the farmer that shot at quad thieves in Bashaw that got all the publicity awhile back Bert.

Oh, that is hardly the same as shooting at a bunch of kids out joy riding around your yard...they were stealing dtuff

 

[imdoo'n]

yes your right, only wasn't that many years ago it was vented in alberta, Saskatchewan is a different story. my thoughts are that if oil is that concerned, why not make it one all across the country and world wide. i have been here for a few more years. and yes it has gotten better, but not by oil company choice. by people bitchin an complaining. you been on any old well sites that just can't pass clean up standards? the enviro consultants don't get paid until they pass, what do you think happens. you drivin alberta highways lately they are passed by engineers also. so guess what in a few years your taxes are going to go up to pay for this crap.


all you guys who fiqure this won't affect you wise up,

 

[DaveB]

Give it a rest Lar. YOUR livelihood comes from the patch too.

 

[imdoo'n]

yes dave, but my future also rests on it. more ways than one. i get a little wound up, but when money is involved, our best interest is second at best. i've got lots of dirt to move around. any idea why the Bowden refinery on hwy 2 is still sitting there, not sold and not operational. how many well sites out there still sitting and doing absolutely nothing. and your telling me oil has your best interest at stake. man i need a beer.


do not believe what anyone tells ya, ask questions and do your own research. your childrens future is on the line.

 

[imdoo'n]

Oh, that is hardly the same as shooting at a bunch of kids out joy riding around your yard...they were stealing dtuff

what is the difference? it's a friggin petty crime 30days in jail served on weekends and double time in holding. you can't be serious. neither justify shooting at anyone. if anyone thinks, so give your friggin heads a shake.

 

[byronkentgraham]

Comparing Weibo the Bashaw farmer to Ludwig is ridiculous. Weibo used a high-powered huntring rifle with intent to kill. The Bashaw farmer used a small shotgun with light shot with the intent to stop the thieves(he shot him in the leg.) Weibo shot a 16 year old girl. The Bashaw farmer shot a 35 year old MAN. The KIDS were joyriding, he shot her before even making an attempt to stop them. The thieves ran when told to stop.

Are we forgetting that Weibo set bombs on oil sites? Thankfully no one was hurt by these, but it could have been much worse than it was.

Is this what we are coming to? If I don't like that there is a wal-mart in my town i am allowed to bomb it and people will support me? Did you people support Osame Bin Laden to? Hitler didn't agree Jewish people's religion so was it okay for him to kill them? Both those guys took a stand to.

 

[imdoo'n]

so stealing a $10 quad is a killing offence, and running over kids or tearing up a guys yard is good to go, atta boy no harm done. like to see that in action. nothing other than self defense justifies shooingt a gun, of any sort. period.

 

[d mills]

It is a petty crime.........I would gladly let anyone take my property.....wtf?

 

[imdoo'n]

does it justify killing someone?

 

[d mills]

does it justify killing someone?

No....but I would say the worst thing any member of the public could do is nothing......not defending wiebo.....defending the guy who was defending his home against theives

 

[MATTIAC]

No....but I would say the worst thing any member of the public could do is nothing......not defending wiebo.....defending the guy who was defending his home against theives

You dont kill some to defend your material items. You kill someone if they put you or your loved ones at risk of death. I bet 90% of the Pety crime thefts the criminal has no intention of hurting anyone. Easy to replace a old quad or fix some grass.