Wiebo dead

[lloydguy]

I would believe the experiences of someone that lived in the area before I swallowed some of
the media's spin on things.So, thank's to RMK for what he had to say.Wasnt the rcmp caught
planting evidence against him?(not that I condone any of the things he may have done)
IMO the US gov. is the largest terrorist oganization in the world,and no one cares.
Big buisness does BAD,BAD things everywhere all over,and no-one cares.
Look into some of the things that shell,coke,pepsi,ford,ect,ect have done.Not all have done things
that they knew would kill people,but some have.THAT'S SAD........
In the 1930's the world knew of some of the dangers of asbestos,and to my knowledge it is still being
shipped out of Canada today.
I DO NOT CONDONE ANY OF THE BAD THINGS HE MAY OR MAYNOT HAVE DONE,but I do believe that
many of our right's are being taken away one by one,and many of our industries do many bad things
and generally we all turn a blind eye.Does the oil industry vent casing gas to atmosphere because its
safe,or because it's cheeper?Flare stack's spewing out massive amounts of So.No.Sox.Nox.ect,ect.
Is it safe to be around,or is it just a cheep fix?
Just my .02 cents on the topic(kinda).

 

[d mills]

I would believe the experiences of someone that lived in the area before I swallowed some of
the media's spin on things.So, thank's to RMK for what he had to say.Wasnt the rcmp caught
planting evidence against him?(not that I condone any of the things he may have done)
IMO the US gov. is the largest terrorist oganization in the world,and no one cares.
Big buisness does BAD,BAD things everywhere all over,and no-one cares.
Look into some of the things that shell,coke,pepsi,ect,ect have done.Not all have done things
that they knew would kill people,but some have.THAT'S SAD........
In the 1930's the world knew of some of the dangers of asbestos,and to my knowledge it is still being
shipped out of Canada today.
I DO NOT CONDONE ANY OF THE BAD THINGS HE MAY OR MAYNOT HAVE DONE,but I do believe that
many of our right's are being taken away one by one,and many of our industries do many bad things
and generally we all turn a blind eye.Does the oil industry vent casing gas to atmosphere because its
safe,or because it's cheeper?Flare stack's spewing out massive amounts of So.No.Sox.Nox.ect,ect.
Is it safe to be around,or is it just a cheep fix?
Just my .02 cents on the topic(kinda).

Do you ride a sled/quad/car? Do you have a furnace in your house? Does your wife /children use cosmetics?Have you ever had a campfire? If yes to any of these........STFU

 

[lloydguy]

Do you ride a sled/quad/car? Do you have a furnace in your house? Does your wife /children use cosmetics?Have you ever had a campfire? If yes to any of these........STFU

Telling people to STFU is a good way to carry on an intelligent conversation.So it's settled then. Big D mills has spoken.
Venting casing gas is safe,flare stacks are safe,When a rig looses circulation drilling surface and dumps 20 tons of mud
into the water table, that's safe too.If your house is full of asbestos,dont worry about it,let your kid's play in it.
because Big D said It's perfectly fine.

One of my points was that many industries do many things that they know are wrong
and can be harmfull or deadly,but it will cut into profits to do it right or to do it better.
So, it is done the cheeper way.Ex- When Ford Dumped toxic waste all over New Jersey
30 years ago,did they know people would be harmed dumping ton's of lead based paint
by a river?No.........they didnt know it would harm anyone.......DUHHHH...

 

[sumx54]

this from a guy who is gonna fawk someone up if they cross him. i don't condone his methods but i can see him taking a stand, and as i have seen lots on this site would kill over a 5 liter of gas gone missing, i'm thinkin a bit of double standard here. no one needs to die over any of this stupidity, but some people are over the top.

You must be drinking beer trying to get Smarter...hope you have enough. LMmFAO!!

 

[imdoo'n]

You must be drinking beer trying to get Smarter...hope you have enough. LMmFAO!!

lets see you have posted several times anyone you catch just lookin at yer stuff, will be fawked up. what is the difference between what your saying and what ol wiebo has said or done please explain. and again, i don't agree with his methods. just can see his point.
that is what i have surmised so far from drinkin beer, got a few left ya coming over we can get smarter together.hehe

dave yes we have been down this road, if big oil is so concerned with the environment and peoples health, then why do they not have the same standards world wide, and why will they not do anything until the government steps in. unless your definition of concerned is different than mine, you really can't be serious.

 

[lloydguy]

lets see you have posted several times anyone you catch just lookin at yer stuff, will be fawked up. what is the difference between what your saying and what ol wiebo has said or done please explain. and again, i don't agree with his methods. just can see his point.
that is what i have surmised so far from drinkin beer hehe.

dave yes we have been down this road, if big oil is so concerned with the environment and peoples health, then why do they not have the same standards world wide, and why will they not do anything until the government steps in. unless your definition of concerned is different than mine, you really can't be serious.

I agree with this guy,and that is a first for me.
Except the part where he is talking specifically to Dave.

 

[rzrgade]

Big oil is big oil...........Cyle is concrete....................

 

[imdoo'n]

Big oil is big oil...........Cyle is concrete....................

may as well start a religion and politics thread now. oh the campfire talk will be ugly.

although with the copious amounts of beer we will all be smarter. hehe

 

[Modman]

Telling people to STFU is a good way to carry on an intelligent conversation.So it's settled then. Big D mills has spoken.
Venting casing gas is safe,flare stacks are safe,When a rig looses circulation drilling surface and dumps 20 tons of mud
into the water table, that's safe too.If your house is full of asbestos,dont worry about it,let your kid's play in it.
because Big D said It's perfectly fine.

One of my points was that many industries do many things that they know are wrong
and can be harmfull or deadly,but it will cut into profits to do it right or to do it better.
So, it is done the cheeper way.Ex- When Ford Dumped toxic waste all over New Jersey
30 years ago,did they know people would be harmed dumping ton's of lead based paint
by a river?No.........they didnt know it would harm anyone.......DUHHHH...

You are trying to mix 50 yr old practices with new age regulations. This isn't some 3rd world country like the news clips show on TV. Oil companies are not allowed to do the same things they did 50 yrs ago because we figured out they were bad for us. I'm an environmental scientist (consultant) - my life is "soil, water and air contamination" everyday. You would not believe the amount of $$$ that oil companies spend on the environmental business end daily here to protect Joe Public and ridiculous measures that are put into place. I could tell you about a number of systems that we have running right now and how many millions of dollars the "big bad oil companies" have spent developing these systems, not because it is legislated (in several cases they would not have to go any where near the extent they did, but did anyway) but because it was the proper thing to do. Hell we have gone so far as to take pollutants out of the air that didn't even have guidelines or we were so far below guidelines, just because they were not there in the first place.

The public's perception of the industry is so very mis-guided and twisted by the media. All it takes is a Michael Moore or a US celebrity to post a pic on their facebook and they can undo years of work that industry has spent building up credibility. IMO there is as much environmental damage to wetlands and streams in our province by quadders each summer as big industry. You cannot believe the red tape that gets jumped through, even for me to drill a soil borehole in a floodplain, that maybe only floods once every 1000 yrs. Oil companies can be fined $1,000,000 a day by DFO, etc etc without even causing any detrimental impact.

As you drive past any road construction project during a rain this summer, you can see massive soil erosion in the ditches, flowing directly into waterways. Drive past any development in a major city, urban developers build massive stockpiles of topsoil and they sit there unvegetated for years. The topsoil simply erodes away in the wind. Oil and Gas companies have to reclaim sites to a provincial standard, pretty much unheard of anywhere else.

Things like club root disease for canola have oil companies steam cleaning equipment between fields across the road from one another to prevent the spread, while farmer john drives the plow in one field, picks up the shanks and drives across the road, and drops them in the field across the road.

If you are concerned about air pollution, stop driving your car, sled, lawnmower etc. Don't take a bath (how do you think your water gets heated), don't cook food, don't turn your lights on (how do you think we generate electricity), buy local organic vegetables free of pesticides/herbicides that are farmed by hand etc etc. Any idea how much benzene you are exposed to just fueling up your truck at the pump? Far worse than a few NOx's perhaps.....

One has to wonder how many life benefits Weibo enjoyed that were the fruits of labour from people in the oil industry. By some people's standards, its OK to label him as a martyr for "taking a stand". What gives anyone the right to take someone's life for joyriding? By those same standards, should we not be invoking the death penalty for things like vandalism? We live in a country of rights and freedoms, like the freedom to live life how we choose. Funny that some people took that right away from so many people it seems, and all the while stood protected by it. Seems more like a cowardly thing to do than what a martyr would do.

 

[imdoo'n]

Thats why we have a police force. Shooting a 16 year old because they are chewing up your lawn isn't the answer.........no matter how mad you are.

truer words have never been spoken. kudos. a senseless death. over a stupid act.

 

[rzrgade]

It was a terrible tradgedy ,no question. However, burning around on Wiebo`s lawn at night is like asking Cliiford Olsen to babysit your kids..............My father used to tell me "You can`t put an old head on young shoulders"This is a prime example of that................

The world won`t miss him a bit,he musta been quite a dude in a past life..........................

 

[d mills]

Things were done a lot different 30 years ago. Sorry if your water table was compromised. That sounds like a legal issue to me. So are you willing to shutdown revenue and progress? As long as its someone else affectted its ok? A legitimate claim will result in clean water for you and yours. So your the next pipeline bomber? The guy was bad.....the oil and gas industry isn't perfect. If you wanna see negligence go east from you and see how sask well sites are without the ercb....and who the fawk is talking about asbestos

 

[d mills]

Telling people to STFU is a good way to carry on an intelligent conversation.So it's settled then. Big D mills has spoken.
Venting casing gas is safe,flare stacks are safe,When a rig looses circulation drilling surface and dumps 20 tons of mud
into the water table, that's safe too.If your house is full of asbestos,dont worry about it,let your kid's play in it.
because Big D said It's perfectly fine.

One of my points was that many industries do many things that they know are wrong
and can be harmfull or deadly,but it will cut into profits to do it right or to do it better.
So, it is done the cheeper way.Ex- When Ford Dumped toxic waste all over New Jersey
30 years ago,did they know people would be harmed dumping ton's of lead based paint
by a river?No.........they didnt know it would harm anyone.......DUHHHH...

I just typed a novel and it didn't post. You wanna chat about it.....its my b-day and I'm almost done a bottle of glenlivet.......but 780-781-6284

 

[imdoo'n]

It was a terrible tradgedy ,no question. However, burning around on Wiebo`s lawn at night is like asking Cliiford Olsen to babysit your kids..............My father used to tell me "You can`t put an old head on young shoulders"This is a prime example of that................

The world won`t miss him a bit,he musta been quite a dude in a past life..........................

ya never know how far a guy will go till he's pushed .

 

[lloydguy]

I never said that I agree'd with any of the bad things that Wiebo did.
I just think that taking a stand against something that you feel is wrong is ok.
If you agree with turbins in the rcmp,fine that maybe someone's opinion,but it sure aint mine.
I never said that all of BIG OIL was evil,just that profits are put ahead of the right way time after time.
casing gas is ALL vented to atmosphere everywhere I have been in Sask.Why? because they dont want
to collect it(would cost too much) and the engine on loc. can only burn so much.
Did oil companies make it mandatory to have a 8' sealed fence with a locked gate around a pumpjack that
is within 1/4 mile of a residence before kid's were killed or after?
I dont know where this oil patch is that you work for mod man,but I havent seen an oil company that cleans
up stuff that they arent told to.
The world that we live in survives only because of oil and its benefit's.Without it our numbers would dwindle
hard and fast.That is the way it is.
People die all over the world all of the time for higher profit margins.Anyone can dissagree with that if they
want,all I would say is pull your head out of your azz if you do.
I'm not being a hater,nor am I arguing with anyone.

 

[lloydguy]

WTF is glenlivet?Never heard of it.I wasnt trying to start something with my comment's.
Just saying that If Wiebo wasnt soo offside,I would agree with him trying to stop flaring
of sour gas and things of that nature around his property.
The world is soo hell bent on burning everydrop of oil that can be pumped out of the ground
and as fast as it can be,that people are dying because of it.Iraq as an example.
I mentioned asbestos because even though "the man" knew it was bad bad stuff years ago
it is even still being used today.Why?because someone can make money off of it.
My comments maybe were combative,I just wish the world was a better place and we could
all have a coke and a smile.

 

[snopro]

I just typed a novel and it didn't post. You wanna chat about it.....its my b-day and I'm almost done a bottle of glenlivet.......but 780-781-6284

Happy BDay fellow Doo soldier. HaHa.

 

[snopro]

WTF is glenlivet?

Damn good Scotch I believe.............

 

[lloydguy]

Before today honestly about all I knew about the guy is that he had some run in's
with the RCMP and that he was fighting with "big oil" about flaring sour gas.
I never knew anything about a girl being killed.None of that.I never meant to sound like
a Supporter of his ideas.

 

[PS94]

I like how he hated "big oil" and rolled around in a Grey dodge with a Cummins in it...:/