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The 3+ is a three-antenna device with a special extra function to first enhance your own safety. The intelligent position recognition system analyses the position of the antennas and automatically switches to the optimal transmitting antenna. There is no longer any such thing as the 'worst position'.

Anyone know if the S1 will do this with the firmware upgrade?
 

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can someone explain to me how wearing a $500 beacon is going to save my life better, compared to a $10 beacon. and what is all this what is your life worth BS.

this is nothing more than a sales ploy to sell you something. explain why a $500(beacon) transmitter is better than a $10 (beacon)transmitter. they all transmit at 457hz period, unless it is real old. transmit antennas are the same.

i am talking transmitters which the victim has, the rescuer has the receiver for those that have no idea. :rant::rant:


again how will wearing a $500 beacon work better than wearing a $10 beacon in saving a persons life, remember you are the victim not rescuer. is there intelligent life on this planet or are we all to close to the mother ship.




your a dumbazz
 

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You need practice with all equipment. digitals tend to be easier to operate than analogs......sounds like you started this for the express purpose of arguing....g'day

again, i think digital beacons are the way to go, just tired of the bs misinformation that people try to spew as fact. again i asked a question, you posted false info, am i bad for not agreeing. :confused:
 

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The 3+ is a three-antenna device with a special extra function to first enhance your own safety. The intelligent position recognition system analyses the position of the antennas and automatically switches to the optimal transmitting antenna. There is no longer any such thing as the 'worst position'.
not disagreeing with you at all, but you are dealing with the receiver,
sorry after reading the 3+ review, you were right, the transmiter will go to the best antenna.
 
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your a dumbazz

another brilliant quote, i bow to your shining example of extreme intelligence. please enlighten us some more. with posts as such, you bring fond thoughts of you swimming in the gene pool. looks like your from la, you associate with charlie sheen.
 
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not disagreeing with you at all, but you are dealing with the receiver,

No..... read it again slowly...... this it's for the transmitting mode.....
Which would help save your azz.....

You ask for examples...
 

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No..... read it again slowly...... this it's for the transmitting mode.....
Which would help save your azz.....

You ask for examples...

yes read it slowly, had to find the beacon review, the manuals were in german, yes it does state it will transmit on the best of 2 antennas. has a max range of 40 m. with vertical antenna orientation it will only put out half the signal 20 m. horizontal about 40 m it will only be in the correct position 66% of the time. good odds. the sos in poor orientation will give signal to half distance 45 +/- m. on good orientation 90 m +. so is this beacon still better, yes it is an improvement, and is it still better, i will wait and see as the comments were not that good, thanks for the info, i will be watching this unit.
 

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yes read it slowly, had to find the beacon review, the manuals were in german, yes it does state it will transmit on the best of 2 antennas. has a max range of 40 m. with vertical antenna orientation it will only put out half the signal 20 m. horizontal about 40 m it will only be in the correct position 66% of the time. good odds. the sos in poor orientation will give signal to half distance 45 +/- m. on good orientation 90 m +. so is this beacon still better, yes it is an improvement, and is it still better, i will wait and see as the comments were not that good, thanks for the info, i will be watching this unit.

You have a pretty impressive beacon if it has a 90+ meter range. If you have an SOS analog like my old spare you have your ft. and m confused there buddy. You at best will be at a good walk with your analog where I can run to find my friend. No turning dials just RUN with the arrow. What you gonna do for the second guy???? I can flag three people as I find them with the push of a button. Analog requires a resweep to get started while I will be again RUNNING to the next victim. Have you been trained, by your comments I would like to see you post your AST1 cert buddy. Every one in my group is trained-EVERYONE!. Lets compare apples to apples, equally trained using analog and digital will result in a serious ass whooping to the analog and it gets worse from there with multiple burials.
You keep your $490 clams to bribe people to ride with you and your analog and it's 90m range. I'll stick with my trained group and better equipment. The only person on this site you will ever convince that an analog is the way to go is the guy you see in the mirror in the morning and that's not a gay joke. Good luck, ride safe, get trained and for Christ's sake get a real beacon to save you friends ass if you don't care about your own.:nono::eek:
 

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You have a pretty impressive beacon if it has a 90+ meter range. If you have an SOS analog like my old spare you have your ft. and m confused there buddy. You at best will be at a good walk with your analog where I can run to find my friend. No turning dials just RUN with the arrow. What you gonna do for the second guy???? I can flag three people as I find them with the push of a button. Analog requires a resweep to get started while I will be again RUNNING to the next victim. Have you been trained, by your comments I would like to see you post your AST1 cert buddy. Every one in my group is trained-EVERYONE!. Lets compare apples to apples, equally trained using analog and digital will result in a serious ass whooping to the analog and it gets worse from there with multiple burials.
You keep your $490 clams to bribe people to ride with you and your analog and it's 90m range. I'll stick with my trained group and better equipment. The only person on this site you will ever convince that an analog is the way to go is the guy you see in the mirror in the morning and that's not a gay joke. Good luck, ride safe, get trained and for Christ's sake get a real beacon to save you friends ass if you don't care about your own.:nono::eek:

have the training, checked the range at the field training 30 + m farther than the pieps, no way i am saying that an sos beacon is better, other than range, i have no problem checking the range. i have stated that the digital beacons are the way to go, . just don't agree with the sales bs. as stated show me how a digital beacon on transmit will be any better than an analog on transmit, you seem to want to change the question and talk about receivers, i stated i would choose someone with analog beacon experience over anyone who has no experience with a digital, how about you. please keep on track.
the pieps 3+ looks like it has potential, but only a 40m range, i am looking to the pulse beacon.
 

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There are better ways to have an intelligent conversation, without all the useless bantering.

This is a good thread. Just relax..... you'll live longer...... :D
 

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You need practice with all equipment. digitals tend to be easier to operate than analogs......sounds like you started this for the express purpose of arguing....g'day

you are right digitals are easier to operate and will work better, just frustrated at some of the sales talk i heard.
 

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X2:eek:

Good luck with your purchase, I can see you don't need our help
:bowdown::biglaugh::alol2:

not looking for help, really just po'd about what i heard. i agree that the digital is the way to go, already have a bca, but looking at the pulse, haven't bought yet, but will.

your beacon transmits a 457 signal a certain distance. the farther the better, your buds beacon is the one that will save you. he needs a good beacon and know how to use it. you have the same responsibility to him. i want a beacon with the farthest range to cut search time.
 
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I would pay 2 grand for a beacon that just told me directly where to go, how deep, and if its even worth diggin(heartbeat, movement,temp). It would be more efficient. As far as sending that would have to change also cause the current set-up cant send that info, its not direct, very outdated, and 60 percent of people wearing them still dont have a clue......... The newer sleds and riders are 60 percent idiots that should stay home IMO.

i agree. the best beacon is the one you use and practice with. so far beacons are improving, only it seems they have there own set of problems. a probe is the only sure fire way of getting depth, can't see any way of getting a guy buried 2 m down out alive, but would do my best to give him a chance.
 

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Imdooin'. Can you list the beacons of your choice in a 1st 2nd and 3rd format with reasoning, as I am finding the entire thread confusing and argumentative. You seem to have done your homework, and are prepared to argue/deny any others findings. You obviously have educated yourself on the topic, and I'm interested (truely), in your findings. I am just having trouble sifting thru the 3 pages of bull chit to find them.
I am not trying to start an argument, just looking for solid advice, minus all the bullchit.....what's best, and why?

Thank-you
 

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yes i'm a little confused also. i prefer a digital beacon. i like the pulse , mainly because it can be switched from analog to digital, tells how many signals it is receiving, and directs you to the closest one. i like to be able to make the decision myself, not the computer.
i also like the pieps, has good range, gives location of signals received, only it try's to make all the decisions.

have the bca, won't buy another one, just don't like, short range, needs to be able to shut the direction arrow off when close to target,

so went looking at beacons, sales wanted to know what my life was worth, told him i would be better off having buddy with better beacon, using his comment. the beacon magic is in the receiver. i read the otravox 3+ review, and found a new development, in 2 transmitting antenna's.
hope this is what you are asking. and in no way will i say a analog is better, i would encourage anyone to look to digital beacons and practice lots. :beer:
 
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