Vegas SHOOTING

[deaner]

Im actually really surprised he didnt kill more people. You would think having the element of surprise, shooting a machine gun into a crowd of 22,000 people that the outcome would have been a lot worse. 58 people is absolutely awful, but I think things could have been much worse.

 

[Summitric]

Las Vegas gunman wired $100,000 to girlfriend's home country: report
Suspected Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock wired $100,000 to the Philippines last week, days before committing what's become the deadliest mass shooting in modern United States history, NBC News reported Tuesday.
Marilou Danley, Paddock's girlfriend, is from the Philippines and was visiting the country on Sunday when the shooting took place. She is scheduled to return to the U.S. on Wednesday, according to officials.
Law enforcement officials originally considered Danley a person of interest in the investigation, but now say they believe she was not involved. The couple lived together in Mesquite, Nev., a city about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas.
Paddock's brother said the shooter was a "multimillionaire" who worked in real estate and accounting.
Paddock was found dead, possibly from a self-inflicted gun wound, when police entered his room Sunday night after the shooting that left 59 people dead and hundreds more wounded or injured.

 

[Merc63]

Guns don't kill people and you don't need a gun to wipe out a crowd.
I can't stand it when people start blaming the gun or gun manufactures. I didn't hear anyone blaming Toyota or Ford when the Edmonton incident happened. No one blamed Boeing or Airbus after 9/11.
Crazy bastards kill people and if they don't have a gun they will find another means.

Do you support access to full auto weapons, full auto converters, 100 round magazines and bump stocks to the public?

 

[freeflorider]

Do you support access to full auto weapons, full auto converters, 100 round magazines and bump stocks to the public?

That's a loaded question in itself. If guns are Aquired and used by sane people regardless of the type or it's abilities we can rest asure we're all safe.
yes bad things happen when there at the hands of nut jobs, just like SWAT is pointing out. Smoking kills by the thousands each year but yet the govement supports it and profits from it to.

Do you support it??? Do I support m4s/m16/ aks ??? I guess I do, in my opinion I'd love to do 240 km across the lions gate bridge in Vancouver in my shinny red Ferrari and shoot a full auto ak but I'm a saint guy so I don't do it nor do I own any of them.
It's a slippery slope when it come to things that can cause mass distuction but then again if you enjoy something others don't approve of then what....arguments.
dont think people should die at the hands of wackos but I don't feel we should take freedoms away from others...
better vetting, tighter leash for thouse that have...not sure what else but this hole fracking worlds gone nuts in my opinion.
done!

 

[X-it]

The Kia Rio 4 door had 148 deaths last year, do you support access to this car?


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-lists-cars-with-highest-and-lowest-rates-of-deaths/

 

[the_real_wild1]

The funny thing is down in the us there are already laws against full auto rifles. Did it stop this guy? There are laws against assault and murder. Did this stop him? There needs to be common sense when discussing attacks instead of the instant " guns needs to be banned" logic. Do you seriously think if guns were no longer in play that this guy would not have used the bomb building supplies he already had in his possession? Let's get real here.

 

[ATV Rancher]

. That was the shooters wife. Concert goers said she was walking around braiding people's hair saying your all going to die. She got booted out about a half hour before he opened fire for bothering people

No. He lived with his girlfriend, Marilou Danley, who was out of the country. Thought to be in the Philippines.

 

[Merc63]

I enjoy setting off thermonuclear blasts in my spare time, guess we should give access to weapons grade plutonium to everyone.

Hand grenades are pretty cool, don't worry they don't kill people, people do, lets sell them at 7/11 next to the cigarettes and when you buy a Kia you get a free pack of 12.

That's the logic being applied here, its insanity.

Its not mass Kia drivings or mass boeing's. It's mass shootings, yes with a gun, modified with a bump stock that anyone can buy online for $350.

Im all for guns, I don't mind them, but their needs to be some control and no access to full auto, military weapons and parts modified to make them act as such.

 

[Merc63]

The funny thing is down in the us there are already laws against full auto rifles. Did it stop this guy? There are laws against assault and murder. Did this stop him? There needs to be common sense when discussing attacks instead of the instant " guns needs to be banned" logic. Do you seriously think if guns were no longer in play that this guy would not have used the bomb building supplies he already had in his possession? Let's get real here.

He didn't use a full auto, he used bump stocks to modify semi autos to act as full auto.

 

[the_real_wild1]

Yes I know he used bump stocks. The majority of people have no idea what a bump stock is they just want a ban on any black rifle. My point is adding laws will not make a difference. There are already laws in place and someone going off the deep end will ignore them. The comment about selling grenades at a 7/11 next to the cigarettes because they don't kill people is pretty silly and not really the same thing now is it.

 

[Merc63]

Nah, pretty sure there's lots of people that understand the right and need for people to own firearms. What the rest of us with a bit of common sense and brains are wondering is why bump stocks and 100 round clip magazines are being sold online to anyone with a credit card and a mailing address. Its illegal to connect a bump stock to a gun in the states, why are they sold and manufactured??

Comparing gun control to 9/11, Kia's and cigarettes is about as stupid as comparing it to grenades and nuclear weapons. The logic on here is seriously lacking.

 

[007sevens]

People build stuff, just because you ban it on a shelf does not mean it can't be built. Maybe the average Joe can't do it but just about any gunsmith can and I'm sure for a buck or two they could be persuaded. The thought that this happened because of some regulation that should be or wasn't in place is ludicrous. These people are not of sound mind, they can think up some pretty weird stuff. Example: They guy that fortified a Dozer as a tank.

 

[DRD]

Bans always work so well to keep undesirable things out of society, you know like meth, heroin etc.

 

[the_real_wild1]

Nah, pretty sure there's lots of people that understand the right and need for people to own firearms. What the rest of us with a bit of common sense and brains are wondering is why bump stocks and 100 round clip magazines are being sold online to anyone with a credit card and a mailing address. Its illegal to connect a bump stock to a gun in the states, why are they sold and manufactured??

Comparing gun control to 9/11, Kia's and cigarettes is about as stupid as comparing it to grenades and nuclear weapons. The logic on here is seriously lacking.

Bump stocks are legal and there is no such thing as a clip magazine. Yes there are 100 round magazine and yes there are clips. Clips are usually 5 rounds and are totally different from magazines.

 

[neilsleder]

Gun control will do nothing to stop this sort of thing. This was a rare case where legally bought guns were used. Most of the time illegally bought guns are used. What will stop this sort of thing just as much or more is the media reporting on it so much. Weirdos at home that do this sort of thing see how famous these guys get, and then want there part of 15 min of fame. They want the attention the they are all getting.

 

[the_real_wild1]

Or let's start with the basics. Look at the guy that stabbed the cop and ran those people over on the weekend here. Why is he here? The new ones coming in are ignoring our laws already and coming from violence. I'm sure they will be contributing stand up citizens.

 

[52weekbreak]

This is just the latest mass shooting in the US. Some interesting statistics. Don't forget to scroll down until you get to the 2016 Orlando mass shooting that only killed 49 people. Vegas is the new number 1 in recent history.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/oct/02/america-mass-shootings-gun-violence

 

[Merc63]

Read the statistics about gun violence, look at the charts vs other developed countries. There is a clear problem in the USA.

 

[X-it]

The new weapon

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/03/world/terrorist-attacks-by-vehicle-fast-facts/index.html

 

[T-team]

Yes I know he used bump stocks. The majority of people have no idea what a bump stock is they just want a ban on any black rifle. My point is adding laws will not make a difference. There are already laws in place and someone going off the deep end will ignore them. The comment about selling grenades at a 7/11 next to the cigarettes because they don't kill people is pretty silly and not really the same thing now is it.

They should just take all of the restrictions off then... And let common sense be their guide! Seems to be working so well for them. I support the right to bear arms and the right to defend yourself.. But what would be the problem with bolt action rifles, shotguns, and the odd handgun? Someone please explain to me the purpose of having an AR with a 100 round magazine and a bump stock available to the public is? What kind of deer do they have down there!?!? The law that are in place are a joke and they were PUT in place basically back when they had muskets. This whole cars kill people cigarettes kill people.. People sound like a two year old with that argument. He wasn't throwing pencils out the window.... Most of the comments from the americans I have read so far.. This "from my cold dead hands" charlton heston attitude.. They DONT EVEN KNOW what they are arguing about or what their own laws even are. I have a restricted gun license and I can tell you the gun laws and restrictions down there are an absolute joke. How the hell could someone buy that many bump stocks without raising a flag?? If you get caught with one of those here you are screwed... Hell if you get caught with a magazine for one of those that holds more than 5 rounds you are screwed... But clearly having that many rifles, with such high capacity magazine's and having most of them with a floating stock full auto conversion serves a purpose for something.