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Weird, I was watching video online this morning of the shots and muzzle flash was coming from the middle right of the building closer to a few floors up. But everything else shows the top right??

Also showed a guy standing up, beer in his right hand, giving the middle finger with his left as bullets went whizzing by. Either completely hammered or balls of steel.
 

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Omfg that is just insane, with 22,000 people there surprise a lot more were not killed. What is this world coming to, trump needs to unleash all on them or it will keep happening Isis or not, RIP
 

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i know a lot of people on here are hunters but if some one could invent a mechanism that cause a rifle's not to fire in case's like this i sure everyone would vote yes on that one.
 

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i know a lot of people on here are hunters but if some one could invent a mechanism that cause a rifle's not to fire in case's like this i sure everyone would vote yes on that one.

Guns don't kill people and you don't need a gun to wipe out a crowd.
I can't stand it when people start blaming the gun or gun manufactures. I didn't hear anyone blaming Toyota or Ford when the Edmonton incident happened. No one blamed Boeing or Airbus after 9/11.
Crazy bastards kill people and if they don't have a gun they will find another means.
 

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i know a lot of people on here are hunters but if some one could invent a mechanism that cause a rifle's not to fire in case's like this i sure everyone would vote yes on that one.

Who have control over the mechanism? The government?
 

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Whack nut conspiracy theorists are almost as bad as the perps. This one is easy to prove...are the windows blown out in the 4th floor? No...then there was no shooter on the 4th floor. You can't open and close windows in those big air-conditioned hotels.

had to be reflections from opposite buildings or something like that... the aria is right beside the mandalay bay, and it's all windows facing every which way
 

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Guns don't kill people and you don't need a gun to wipe out a crowd.
I can't stand it when people start blaming the gun or gun manufactures. I didn't hear anyone blaming Toyota or Ford when the Edmonton incident happened. No one blamed Boeing or Airbus after 9/11.
Crazy bastards kill people and if they don't have a gun they will find another means.

Someone will have to explain to me one day then the purpose of having 100+ round drum magazines for an AR15. Deer? You dont need a gun to wipe out a crowd.. And guns DONT kill people... and burn me alive for saying this but WHAT would be the major downfall of having bolt action hunting rifles and handguns for home defense down there... What in the HELL is the purpose of having something with a range and fire rate like that available to your average joe? Everyone is not a maniac and I enjoy my guns as much as the next guy... But they have to look at some options.
 

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It has all the ear marks of a typical isis extremist wack job attack. Lets hope they are not moving into phase two of planned attacks to divert the blame off of them. This would be a whole new ball game for us to be diligent. It could be he just went crazy and did this but as his neighbor said he would have never done such a thing.
 

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Someone will have to explain to me one day then the purpose of having 100+ round drum magazines for an AR15. Deer? You dont need a gun to wipe out a crowd.. And guns DONT kill people... and burn me alive for saying this but WHAT would be the major downfall of having bolt action hunting rifles and handguns for home defense down there... What in the HELL is the purpose of having something with a range and fire rate like that available to your average joe? Everyone is not a maniac and I enjoy my guns as much as the next guy... But they have to look at some options.

Agree 100%. Im about as libertarian as you get, but have no problem with tighter gun control on these types of weapons. There is no reason that the average person should own an AR-15 or similar weapon. They are designed for killing people. That is it. You can make the arguement that they can be used for something else, but realistically they are ill suited for it.
 

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heard on news this am the guy used " bump stocks". which turned a semi auto into a fully auto machine gun, had a couple i guess. sad sad events the last few days.
 

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Woman I work with was down there but escaped injury thank God. What a sick fawk this azzhole was.
 

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a dead guy does not talk, he may have been dead before the shooting started...who knows
my thoughts exactly... However he was at several anti-trump protests and claimed to be a member of antifa..... Hmmmmm

but yes, what if he was already dead when shooting started. The detectives said they found which room it was by the amount of smoke in the room setting off the sprinkler and smoke alarm... Could be another individual or group involved? Theorists will be all over this one for months to come......
 

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You are all going to die, said one person on the grounds, so it was more than one that knew this shooting was going to happen...not a lone wolf attack.
 
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heard on news this am the guy used " bump stocks". which turned a semi auto into a fully auto machine gun, had a couple i guess. sad sad events the last few days.

Would make sense to me.. Hence how he was able to withstand that kind of recoil for that length of time. Bump stocks pretty well eliminate recoil. You basically have a free floating stock and it uses the recoil of the gun to make your finger pull the trigger again.. You fire it once and it keeps going until it is out of ammo. All these conspiracy theories are stupid. The guy was checked in there for multiple days.. he could have brought a hundred guns up to his room if he wanted without anyone noticing.. He was only at 300 yards.... Any half assed mid range caliber weapon can be fatal from an elevated position at 300 yards. Especailly when you have 25 guns probably packing 30 rounds a pop firing them and 22,000 people in a small area. NOT VERY HARD TO FATHOM. Next to no bullet drop from that height.. People are saying there was no muzzle flash... He was firing from cover.. Like any maniac sniper or professional sniper does. Hence the smoke detectors going off.. He wasn't hanging the gun out the window.
 

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You are all going to die, said one person on the grounds, so it was more than one that knew this shooting was going to happen...not a lone wolf attack.
. That was the shooters wife. Concert goers said she was walking around braiding people's hair saying your all going to die. She got booted out about a half hour before he opened fire for bothering people
 
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