Thoughts: Aftermarket Turbo Kit or New Doo Turbo!?

[JustChilling19]

Hi All,

Looking for everyone’s thoughts and opinions on the above subject. Currently have a 2017 Axys 174. Before COVID I was going to snow check a new turbo doo. With the virus outbreak I decided to hold off until the dust clears a bit. Spending $23k on a new sled seems a bit removed from reality in our current economic state. Ironically the best offer I got on my 174 had been between $8000 and $8400 from
the dealer albeit that was a week before the virus really substantiated into anything.

Bunch of the guys I ride with are picking up aftermarket kits. What held me back before was my lack of mechanical ability (two other guys in the group who bought kits are mechanics in some form). Are the aftermarket Polaris kits as reliable as people say or am I looking at a world of hurt? I’ll also say I’m a big fan of the Polaris chassis over doo, just what im used to, the doo feels out of control in comparison. But what doo brought this year was enough to get me to jump ship.

Either way I’m ready for a change. Just not sure if a aftermarket kit makes sense to hold me for a year or two or if I should make do a bit longer and buy a snow check leftover mid season (I’m sure there will be plenty). Guess a guy could always do nothing? This begs the question what kit to buy and what is a fair price for a used aftermarket kit?

May as well talk about this subject since were all in lockdown anyways!!

Cheers,
Tyler

 

[Longhairfreak]

That's a no brainer. The Ski-Doo turbo only maintains horsepower. An aftermarket turbo increases horsepower.

 

[JustChilling19]

That's a no brainer. The Ski-Doo turbo only maintains horsepower. An aftermarket turbo increases horsepower.

Yeah I fully understand how the new doo turbo works and the power generated vs aftermarket. What brought me to the doo is the theoretical factory reliability and not having to install anything myself. I’m not interested in wrenching on the side of the hill, would rather ride. I also don’t have a lot of time to wrench at home which is why the proposed pull and go appealed to me.

 

[fredw]

Aftermarket has had kits out from early 2011 Etec days and fined tuned there kits over the years, they really raised the bar and held manufacturers hands build the doo kit they have now

Was out with Redline's Poo kits last month.. it was there first day out on 850 Poo kit and dam Was i impressed, he had to fine tune fueling over day, the det sensor is touchy..but seamed pretty basic tuning threw day, fine tuned rpm on clutching quick..we raced it across the lake 6500' and it at 6 lbs killed the new tdoo ever time, the poo skid held power very well and we climbed some pretty wild stuff after, his skis were in tack well, and easy to side hill, you will need better octane fuel thou att those boost levels

I have tried their doo 850 aftermarket kit this year and it's been a true pull and ride kit to date.. drop sled off on a Sunday and pick it up Friday ready to boost, there kit might not boost as quick as the new tdoo kit but it's not far off, and comes with skid and drivers upgrade to take your ride to next level.. his kits run strong and his cell always on.. he has multiple different stages of hp and all can be upgraded latter for your costly needs.. even his lowest hp kit is much stronger than the new tdoo.. better fuel needed after 4 lbs..

Find good used 850s for a resonable price in both Poo/doo camps and aftermarket kits are resonablely priced.. keep a good chunk in bank account, Is my recommendation

 

[niner]

Hi All,

Looking for everyone’s thoughts and opinions on the above subject. Currently have a 2017 Axys 174. Before COVID I was going to snow check a new turbo doo. With the virus outbreak I decided to hold off until the dust clears a bit. Spending $23k on a new sled seems a bit removed from reality in our current economic state. Ironically the best offer I got on my 174 had been between $8000 and $8400 from
the dealer albeit that was a week before the virus really substantiated into anything.

Bunch of the guys I ride with are picking up aftermarket kits. What held me back before was my lack of mechanical ability (two other guys in the group who bought kits are mechanics in some form). Are the aftermarket Polaris kits as reliable as people say or am I looking at a world of hurt? I’ll also say I’m a big fan of the Polaris chassis over doo, just what im used to, the doo feels out of control in comparison. But what doo brought this year was enough to get me to jump ship.

Either way I’m ready for a change. Just not sure if a aftermarket kit makes sense to hold me for a year or two or if I should make do a bit longer and buy a snow check leftover mid season (I’m sure there will be plenty). Guess a guy could always do nothing? This begs the question what kit to buy and what is a fair price for a used aftermarket kit?

May as well talk about this subject since were all in lockdown anyways!!

Cheers,
Tyler

I have a MTNTK turbo pro that runs flawlessly. The MTNTK turbo Axys run flawlessly also. They finally have there stuff together again and have a great kit. Chrisco in Stony Plain can give you some good insight and worth a call if your going to turbo your Axys.

 

[ABMax24]

Aftermarket kit forsure.

I'd try to look at kits that fuel through the stock/upgraded injectors in the stock location. Auxiliary injectors in front of the throttle bodies wash the oil out of the bottom end which can lead to crank bearing failure.

I believe both MTNTK and Redline fuel through the stock injectors, but something to look out for.

 

[struglin]

We bought two left over 2019 doos this year and put sidekicks on both one has 2000km the other 1400km both with zero issues was under 18k each all in definitely the way to go imo

 

[Pistonbroke]

I wonder what maxxy will recommend? He’s been pretty quiet about the T850 up till now.

 

[Longhairfreak]

One thing I will say for sure Doo has a lot of non boosted engine failures. Add boost and the problem becomes exponential in my opinion.

 

[kanedog]

If you don’t like to tinker, then the factory turbo is the way to go.
When someone says their aftermarket turbo is pull and go, they either sell turbos, sponshured and/or a full of bs. Haha

 

[Longhairfreak]

Yeah I fully understand how the new doo turbo works and the power generated vs aftermarket. What brought me to the doo is the theoretical factory reliability and not having to install anything myself. I’m not interested in wrenching on the side of the hill, would rather ride. I also don’t have a lot of time to wrench at home which is why the proposed pull and go appealed to me.

What kind of wrenching is involved in an aftermarket turbo? Set it and forget it. You may have to add a little fuel or take some away but that is minor.

 

[struglin]

If you don’t like to tinker, then the factory turbo is the way to go.
When someone says their aftermarket turbo is pull and go, they either sell turbos, sponshured and/or a full of bs. Haha

2000km without any bs isn’t pull and go or are you saying I’m full of bs?

 

[kanedog]

2000km without any bs isn’t pull and go or are you saying I’m full of bs?

Yep, you are full of bs or you ride mellow. I forgot to add, “or they are sit and watch” types. These peeps need to post riding vids so S and m’ers can judge.

 

[maxwell]

I wonder what maxxy will recommend? He’s been pretty quiet about the T850 up till now.

Stock or walk bud. Factory turbo with warranty. No wrenches just riding

 

[kingcat162]

Ride a sled with zero lbs boost and a sled with 8lbs boost back to back then let that help you decide

 

[niner]

Yep, you are full of bs or you ride mellow. I forgot to add, “or they are sit and watch” types. These peeps need to post riding vids so S and m’ers can judge.

https://youtu.be/S4eUjTbmKr0

judge away. Pull and go. Not saying the factory doo turbo ain’t great cause it is really good. But the polaris turbos work very well also.

 

[maxwell]

Ride a sled with zero lbs boost and a sled with 8lbs boost back to back then let that help you decide

I have both. I’ll take the zero boost all day long

 

[2Turnipsinheat]

If you want boost my choice is aftermarket. If you wanna maintain your hp with the sound of boost then skidoo it is:d. Aftermarket has come along way, dont make your decision listening to peoples one sided opinions, including mine, just find a way to ride both. Easy decision after that.

 

[kingcat162]

I have both. I’ll take the zero boost all day long

Is that because you are part of the "no lag" movement? No lag on an aftermarket setup can be " no lag " also - all you need is a bunch of money - running a redline or force turbo 10lb boost kit is by far superior than any other setup IMO - a force turbo or redline kit can be zero lag also - it just needs some re-engineering - no biggie - I did it to my xm - I would easily do it to gen 4 too - real world engineering on the mountain Is also by far superior IMO compared to a bunch of whatever's in a warehouse in Quebec - it's way better to have a one off - IMO

 

[snopro]

Ride what ever works for you. If you want a reliable set up with no lag and factory warranty and support buy the Doo. If you want bigger boost buy aftermarket. Just remember unless you buy from someone who really supports their product and has their phone on everytime you call then Redline provides that kind of service just like the Boost It guys used to. Lots of stories on here about companies that don't return calls or jack you around on follow up service and updates.