RTM & Modular homes
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dogsmack
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A mod is two parts, construction give the different ones a look. 2nd is who installs it on the foundation and puts it together. Aside from limits on what you can actually have as a home going modular I don't see much of down side if the quality and care are there. The mod I owned is sound, warm and my kid lives in it now still with no issue. Be damned if I can remember who built it but it was in Saskatchewan inside a shop. Big bonus there, no one like working in the elements. Do a litte research. Country living is where it is at!!
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some of the manufactures have an option for 8 inch walls, i remember when they built them with 3 inch walls ,the quality is better then some of the stick builders that do subdivisions
plio7
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RTM & Modular homes
Just about all ready to move modulars are 8" walls now. They require the extra strength to be moved with out possible damage. We are actually right now weighing the pros and cons of hiring a builder or going modular. We are leaning modular for a few reasons. One is that they are built in a controlled environment. Two the price point is a little better. The one we think we're going with is 1600 sq/ft and is about 250k delivered. And for them to do the basement including excavating all prep, all ducting, furnace, electrical rough ins ect. Was an extra 85k which actually isn't bad. I'll be doing this work myself and figure I can do it for about 50ish but honestly 335k for a 1600' turn key house is pretty
Good having them do everything. I know people who have paid 400+ to have comparable houses built. That said we are taking the floor plan to a few builders and see what kind of pricing we can get going that route for the house we like.
As far as going two piece or one piece of your not going two Storey they can move houses up to 2300sq/ft now so for a bungalow not much point in going 2 piece now a days
Just about all ready to move modulars are 8" walls now. They require the extra strength to be moved with out possible damage. We are actually right now weighing the pros and cons of hiring a builder or going modular. We are leaning modular for a few reasons. One is that they are built in a controlled environment. Two the price point is a little better. The one we think we're going with is 1600 sq/ft and is about 250k delivered. And for them to do the basement including excavating all prep, all ducting, furnace, electrical rough ins ect. Was an extra 85k which actually isn't bad. I'll be doing this work myself and figure I can do it for about 50ish but honestly 335k for a 1600' turn key house is pretty
Good having them do everything. I know people who have paid 400+ to have comparable houses built. That said we are taking the floor plan to a few builders and see what kind of pricing we can get going that route for the house we like.
As far as going two piece or one piece of your not going two Storey they can move houses up to 2300sq/ft now so for a bungalow not much point in going 2 piece now a days
rsaint
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Seen lots of both and the ones I would recommend are Nelson Homes about best for quality, Nothplex from barrhead area good also but limited to 3.5 pitch on roof because of there haul corridor, Rtm is your most ecomical way to go expecially without basement, screw piles or pony wall set down hook up services and move in.
174mcx
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I have a granduer 2 piece its been good. 8" walls where an option i took, as well as the 9 foot walls.
rzrgade
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Have you checked with the new home warranty in regards to doing your own basement....you will Ned to become a registered builder or apply for an exemption ? The days of doing it yourself are not that easy anymore.....
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Modulars and RTM home are a great product , but if you compare apples to apples they are not cheaper inmost cases. For example the 8 inch wall means zero if you go with a cheaper window and lesser quality insulation or the insulation is poorly installed. As far as strength an 8 inch wall adds no useable strength over a 6 inch wall, the strength comes from gluing and screwing osb along exterior walls to decrease the flex in the house.
Dont get me wrong they are a built home , built to code in most cases. However, usually you find cheaper windows/ siding / trim/ fixtures/ flooring etc etc.... Now you can upgrade all of the above ... At a cost !!!
Where most people get burnt is in the foundation and / or basement. It always costs WAY more than they tell you... Way more. All the Big $$$ are down there... Furnace Hvac in floor plumbing etc etc.. And if you Finnish the basement count on about 60+ $$ a sq ft. They do not include decks , verandas , steps , final grade and the list goes on and on....as well as the ability to fully customize a floor plan at a reasonable cost is far greater with a stick build. Think about hauling an an L shaped home down the highway ? And if you simply "but" the two pieces together , that is no way to build....for example.
I would say a GOOD builder could build the same house a little bit cheaper than a comparable off site home, in most cases...
Also consider the resale value is much better on a stick built home....!
Do your home work.... There is a lot of vagueness in the pricing of a modular home to say the least.....IMO.
Modulars and RTM home are a great product , but if you compare apples to apples they are not cheaper inmost cases. For example the 8 inch wall means zero if you go with a cheaper window and lesser quality insulation or the insulation is poorly installed. As far as strength an 8 inch wall adds no useable strength over a 6 inch wall, the strength comes from gluing and screwing osb along exterior walls to decrease the flex in the house.
Dont get me wrong they are a built home , built to code in most cases. However, usually you find cheaper windows/ siding / trim/ fixtures/ flooring etc etc.... Now you can upgrade all of the above ... At a cost !!!
Where most people get burnt is in the foundation and / or basement. It always costs WAY more than they tell you... Way more. All the Big $$$ are down there... Furnace Hvac in floor plumbing etc etc.. And if you Finnish the basement count on about 60+ $$ a sq ft. They do not include decks , verandas , steps , final grade and the list goes on and on....as well as the ability to fully customize a floor plan at a reasonable cost is far greater with a stick build. Think about hauling an an L shaped home down the highway ? And if you simply "but" the two pieces together , that is no way to build....for example.
I would say a GOOD builder could build the same house a little bit cheaper than a comparable off site home, in most cases...
Also consider the resale value is much better on a stick built home....!
Do your home work.... There is a lot of vagueness in the pricing of a modular home to say the least.....IMO.
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plio7
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Regardless of wether you do the foundation yourself it is stated in the new home warranty that modular and mobile builders must provide 10 year minimum warranty with no exceptions. All you have to provide is a core samples and compaction tests based on proctor test done of the sample
Regardless of wether you do the foundation yourself it is stated in the new home warranty that modular and mobile builders must provide 10 year minimum warranty with no exceptions. All you have to provide is a core samples and compaction tests based on proctor test done of the sample
plio7
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RTM & Modular homes
With that said you are right about hidden costs. Many don't tell you that stairs, furnace, ducting. Even crane costs fall back to the buyer. So far of all the modular builders we spoke with western modular was very upfront about all hidden costs and were the ones who said they had quoted in the past $85k to complete the basement work.
Jandel homes how ever wanted a ridiculous mount for the basement work. I'm still up in the air so far as to which way we will go. Pretty sure it will be next summer we look moving ahead unless I get my place sold early spring
With that said you are right about hidden costs. Many don't tell you that stairs, furnace, ducting. Even crane costs fall back to the buyer. So far of all the modular builders we spoke with western modular was very upfront about all hidden costs and were the ones who said they had quoted in the past $85k to complete the basement work.
Jandel homes how ever wanted a ridiculous mount for the basement work. I'm still up in the air so far as to which way we will go. Pretty sure it will be next summer we look moving ahead unless I get my place sold early spring
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Bnorth
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How does resale compare? I've got to think stick built wins hands down in that case?
How does resale compare? I've got to think stick built wins hands down in that case?
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I have done 3 modulars. They are great but.... My next house will be a stick built home. All 3 homes had issues. Not major issues but issues none the less. I honestly believe that you get a better home with a reputable builder. Like they said earlier Windows, flooring, baseboards all better with a builder. There is something to be said about builders pride.
Another thing to check is life expectancy. I have heard that some banks won't lend on older modulars. Now I don't know this as fact but what I have heard lately. Modulars have a life expectancy of 50 yrs. after that no mortgage. Something to at least check out.
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Another thing to check is life expectancy. I have heard that some banks won't lend on older modulars. Now I don't know this as fact but what I have heard lately. Modulars have a life expectancy of 50 yrs. after that no mortgage. Something to at least check out.
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rzrgade
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Will your modular builder assume structural risk with you doing the foundation work for him ? I know I would never sign off on that....imo If any issues arise he is on the hook, not you...
rzrgade
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I do have a contact at Westland modular homes in evansburg. They build a great home......the second company you mentioned ....run fast , don't look back ! Also my daughter sells triple M homes... And can get you a quote to go by to compare.....
me I stick build ....lol
good luck, just do your deep research!
I do have a contact at Westland modular homes in evansburg. They build a great home......the second company you mentioned ....run fast , don't look back ! Also my daughter sells triple M homes... And can get you a quote to go by to compare.....
me I stick build ....lol
good luck, just do your deep research!
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Joholio
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Ozzy- isnt the house across from your farm up on the hill a modular? It looks like a piece of sh!t, but I dont know who's it is or who set it up but it doesn't look like something I'd want to owe money on. My $0.02.
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Check Moduline out of Penticton BC. They make a good product.
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YamaDad
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Do your homework. Typically stick built is better if you have a good contractor, but if you like in a remote area RTMS are a good alternative. You will almost always be on the hook for plumbing, heating, and electrical, as well as the basement and services. Some charge or leave out delivery, be sure you know what your builder includes. If you do an ICF basement be sure the builder knows as they are wider and could screw up the stairs. Good luck.
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They are called an alternative to building for a reason. Been involved in gthe construction and also the sale or disposition of many over the years, thats when you find out why they're called alternatives. They are essentially a trailer, color it however you want, the creation process and materials used are very similar.
Go stick built, Choose a reputable contractor, work a fair price , inclusive of all trades and materials, and sign a contract. Then look at the budgets, and decide if you want to or are qualified to get the credit for that facet of the job and do it yourself.
Especially now , good contractors are coming available at fair prices in this economy, so the price and the time to completion will probably be similar
Go stick built, Choose a reputable contractor, work a fair price , inclusive of all trades and materials, and sign a contract. Then look at the budgets, and decide if you want to or are qualified to get the credit for that facet of the job and do it yourself.
Especially now , good contractors are coming available at fair prices in this economy, so the price and the time to completion will probably be similar
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