Non Ethanol Premium Fuel Alberta and Western Canada

lilduke

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Never ever have looked in the manual. Ill get back to you on that lol

Where does it say non oxygenated fuels are preferred? I dont see it....

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I gave the old PTEK manual from 2009 and the year 2000 same thing. So what are we talking pre 2000? Pretty easy to look at that too.


\Hate to be that guy, but i dont want to take part in some kinda ethanol hating echo chamber lol
 

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I gave the old PTEK manual from 2009 and the year 2000 same thing. So what are we talking pre 2000? Pretty easy to look at that too.


\Hate to be that guy, but i dont want to take part in some kinda ethanol hating echo chamber lol

Not in the manual, but from ski-doo none the less.


On the gap cap of each Ski-Doo snowmobile you will find the recommended type of fuel for that specific snowmobile. Generally, you will not damage your sled by using readily-available automotive fuel as long as it is of at least 87-octane and does not contain more than 10% ethanol. Avoid using E-15 or E-85 as they will damage the engine of any recreational vehicle. That said, many high-performance snowmobiles specify the use of 91-octane non-oxygenated fuel for best performance. Generally, the use of oxygenated fuel is not a problem but leaving this fuel in the machine for more than 30 days can create a problem. Make it a practice, try to only use the fuel specified on the fuel cap of the machine, but occasional use of the automotive 87-octane fuel is not going to cause damage, it just reduces performance. As a rule try to use the higher-octane fuel and non-oxygenated (non-ethanol) to meet the requirements on the fuel cap.
 

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Not in the manual, but from ski-doo none the less.


On the gap cap of each Ski-Doo snowmobile you will find the recommended type of fuel for that specific snowmobile. Generally, you will not damage your sled by using readily-available automotive fuel as long as it is of at least 87-octane and does not contain more than 10% ethanol. Avoid using E-15 or E-85 as they will damage the engine of any recreational vehicle. That said, many high-performance snowmobiles specify the use of 91-octane non-oxygenated fuel for best performance. Generally, the use of oxygenated fuel is not a problem but leaving this fuel in the machine for more than 30 days can create a problem. Make it a practice, try to only use the fuel specified on the fuel cap of the machine, but occasional use of the automotive 87-octane fuel is not going to cause damage, it just reduces performance. As a rule try to use the higher-octane fuel and non-oxygenated (non-ethanol) to meet the requirements on the fuel cap.

So now the story changes. that sentence makes no sense at all-

"As a rule try to use the higher-octane fuel and non-oxygenated (non-ethanol) to meet the requirements on the fuel cap."


Cause on the fuel cap it says 10% max ethanol, it doesnt say 0% ethanol.... so the requirements on the cap are 10% ethanol max and 91 octane

"And use the higher octane fuel" What? So I need 91 or higher than 91? lmfao Or sounds like he or she is saying 87 is ok some times? Avoid using E85? Dont you mean never use that chit??

Who ever wrote that crap should be fired.... Just saying










Guess thats why I couldnt find it in any of the owner manuals in the last 23 years.

If you would have said some ambassadors said this BS on the skidoo website from the start, i would have believed you lol






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And what the hell is a gap cap? 😂
 
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kind of interesting it doesn't say NOT TO USE E15 but that it is EPA regulated... HMM....
 

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Mixed up 50 mL of Shell premium fuel and 20 mL of water, got out maybe 1.5 mL of extra water (was about 21.5 mL from what I recovered) and about 48.5 mL of fuel. So there was a small amount of "something" in it, but it was nowhere near 10% - probably between 2-2.5% at most, accounting for a small margin of error in measurements and transferring.
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Mixed up 50 mL of Shell premium fuel and 20 mL of water, got out maybe 1.5 mL of extra water (was about 21.5 mL from what I recovered) and about 48.5 mL of fuel. So there was a small amount of "something" in it, but it was nowhere near 10% - probably between 2-2.5% at most, accounting for a small margin of error in measurements and transferring. View attachment 260538
That’s the new 93?
 

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Mixed up 50 mL of Shell premium fuel and 20 mL of water, got out maybe 1.5 mL of extra water (was about 21.5 mL from what I recovered) and about 48.5 mL of fuel. So there was a small amount of "something" in it, but it was nowhere near 10% - probably between 2-2.5% at most, accounting for a small margin of error in measurements and transferring. View attachment 260538

The pump does say, “may contain 10% ethanol”


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That’s the new 93?
No this was the 91 octane since that's what we were discussing here and I didn't know if the 93 is now available at every place now. Anyway, its just food for thought. Yes we know it can contain "up to" 10% at any random times, so if folks are going to worry about it, just run the good stuff for a few cents more.
 

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My thought is that the reason the 91 came out with small amounts of ethanol is that the 91 is a combination of 87 and 93 being mixed at the pump. My math would tell me 2/3 93 and 1/3 87 will give you 91. So perhaps the 93 has no ethanol and the 87 has 8-10%. That would make sense to have come back with 2-3% ethanol in the 91.

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My thought is that the reason the 91 came out with small amounts of ethanol is that the 91 is a combination of 87 and 93 being mixed at the pump. My math would tell me 2/3 93 and 1/3 87 will give you 91. So perhaps the 93 has no ethanol and the 87 has 8-10%. That would make sense to have come back with 2-3% ethanol in the 91.

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In this video the rep says the 93 contains ethanol and makes it sound as the 91 now contains some ethanol.
 

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I was at a Costco station the other day. Noticed the premium did not have a sticker stating the "may contain up to...". Asked the attendant standing there what she knew about Costco fuels and if the premium contained ethanol. She was very confident in her answer that the premium did not contain ethanol. Said it was one of the things she knew 100%.
 

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Chevron in Edson still says no ethanol in 94.


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Maybe its my imagination but the quailty of gas seems to have taken a turn for the worse.
 
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