Longhairfreak
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You have all these tuners for the M1100/M9000 turbos. Do you actually think these tunes are radically different?
Here is something to think about.
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ZRrrr
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To help you out I have solicited input from someone whom has worked with a lot of the various tunes. Personal opinions aside...
Comment on Full Throttle was for me as I use that Tune.
Here is a quote:
"Speedwerx and Evo tunes use no knock light, so they tend to be a bit over cautious in their octane requirements.
Evo tunes are mostly mountain tunes as they never really tested at what we consider low altitude, but they do work pretty well.
There can be huge differences in tunes and it all depends on how the individual tuner approaches things. Steve at Full Throttle has by far the most aggressive tunes in my experience, as he throws more timing at them for one. His approach is just more aggressive.
TD is the most conservative, and also handles low octane the best. Again, its just how Ben tunes.
So yes, they can all be pretty different in feel and low end pull, even if all of them were technically making the same peak power."
Comment on Full Throttle was for me as I use that Tune.
Here is a quote:
"Speedwerx and Evo tunes use no knock light, so they tend to be a bit over cautious in their octane requirements.
Evo tunes are mostly mountain tunes as they never really tested at what we consider low altitude, but they do work pretty well.
There can be huge differences in tunes and it all depends on how the individual tuner approaches things. Steve at Full Throttle has by far the most aggressive tunes in my experience, as he throws more timing at them for one. His approach is just more aggressive.
TD is the most conservative, and also handles low octane the best. Again, its just how Ben tunes.
So yes, they can all be pretty different in feel and low end pull, even if all of them were technically making the same peak power."
ZRrrr
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More you for as this is always the next question:
"Head studs are always nice to have for extra insurance, but there is no real HP number that they are needed at. It's a matter of controlling detonation. If you had an older D&D hijacker that detonated like crazy at 220hp, then you need them. If you have any of the modern tunes that don't knock at 280, then you don't. There are plenty of guys with full race tunes that don't run studs, but they're running 120 octane fuels and knock isn't really a big concern."
This is why I would choose a tune that utilizes good safety measures, as in the two stage knock light. Although I can run 91 safely in my own sled, at 260hp, I have better results with the Husky 94. Sometimes I will put a splash of Lucas Octane boost for added insurance.
"Head studs are always nice to have for extra insurance, but there is no real HP number that they are needed at. It's a matter of controlling detonation. If you had an older D&D hijacker that detonated like crazy at 220hp, then you need them. If you have any of the modern tunes that don't knock at 280, then you don't. There are plenty of guys with full race tunes that don't run studs, but they're running 120 octane fuels and knock isn't really a big concern."
This is why I would choose a tune that utilizes good safety measures, as in the two stage knock light. Although I can run 91 safely in my own sled, at 260hp, I have better results with the Husky 94. Sometimes I will put a splash of Lucas Octane boost for added insurance.
canuck5
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I ran my evo tune for 2700km all at elevation no codes no blips(applies to sidewinder and m9000). It was exactly as advertised on pump gas. Boost was 14.8-16psi. The base and ecu on these sleds to start is unreal tuners have it a lot easier on these machines best turbo throttle response on all of them. To get these big sleds up on plane in the ultra deep the 16+ psi is needed along with a lockout rear shock. Sold mine last year to go play on a two smoker but I would be telling a lie if I didn’t jump back on one of these sometime.
slededjr
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We tried a TD tune about 5 years back on the Dyno. Was a 220HP flash and it wouldn’t make more than 203HP as it would detonate from running too lean. Tried lots of passes and some different fuels. I know the setup I ran on mine PEFI flash, jaws full exhaust and my own clutching was ahead of a few Bikeman 260/280 sleds.
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