imdoo'n
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If someone sees guys out ripping up and down a creek, should they be taking pics and reporting this type of activity?
Fines for creek crossings?
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This is what is happening along the eastern slopes here in southern Alberta, by environmentalists and NGO employees. "We" don't have to do it, it is already being done, is one of the reasons these fines came back into existence, IMO.
Lem Lamb
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As resposible OHV folk that most us are only means we need too excepte change as it will always be on going.
If we can't ohv there, then we can walk the rest of the way too the creek or stream.
One could look at it negitivly, but why bother when its a win win later on.
No big deal since humans have walked every inch of this planet for a long time, plus the work-out will do us good.
My glass is always full.
If we can't ohv there, then we can walk the rest of the way too the creek or stream.
One could look at it negitivly, but why bother when its a win win later on.
No big deal since humans have walked every inch of this planet for a long time, plus the work-out will do us good.
My glass is always full.
Joholio
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Anyone see where I'm going with this?
Joholio
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Nutley to ban atv's and snowmobiles !
Notley moves to bad ohv's !
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X-it
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One jet boat on a river can do more damage than a million atvs running up and down a river or stream. Stupidity at its finest.
neilsleder
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whoDEANie
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Boats, propeller driven or jet, can cause significant damage to river beds, plats, and aquatic life. That said, I feel this sort of argument just draws more negative attention to our community and promotes anonyity between us and yet another special interest group. ...when we should be cooperating each other.
To me x-it's statement is not much different than someone being called out for littering and then trying to justify it because the guy next to him is littering more.
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LennyR
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Pfft, floaters and partiers/picnicers/campers make a far bigger impact and long term mess on rivers and lakes than ATV or jet boats hands down. Maybe we should legislate that $hit eh ! Such a bunch of dumba$$'s making these decisions its unbelievable.
neilsleder
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I get that. I was more referring to the fact that he said one jet boat is worse then a million atvs. I would put it the other way around! I drive my boats the only needs 6" water to run in and throws very minimal wake down a river 10 seconds after I go by there is zero sign I was there. Now I take my sxs drive across that same river and take the best and shortest root across months later you could still see that I was there! I with Lenny the environmental canoeing camp leave more of an impact. And you can see it everywhere you go. There's camp sites all along the river from them. And I agree with you Dean no need to draw more negative attention
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Lem Lamb
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Wise not too throw sticks and roacks at all user groups as it "could get the whole lot of us removed !
All have a stake in our crown lands, each want a peace of it, the furry critters and aquadic system need our help is perhaps a way of looking at it over the long hual,,, doo-noo...
Is it worth trying smoething different then what we have now, what benifit will we see in 5 too 10 years. "I" my self have no issue with either or since its all of our crown lands that need a differnt aproch.
The idea to restrict ohv's in sencitive areas "un-known" what they are classed as yet, might be a good thing. Could it improve fishing here in Alberta,,, "maybe".
Would some of the wet lands return too natural state, "maybe".
Is it worth trying, maybe".
I'll take a look in a mirro tonight and ask my self, what can I do wiser to help "all" user groups enjoy what they have as well as my self !
All of us can agree to dis-agree till the cows come home, fact is change is comeing, its here, and now its time to fit into what we need too do.
Just my 2 cents of wrong or right un-known till we get there.
Tap it kool, relaxe, do what's right as it will all work out. Join a club, help promot a riding area that we can share with "all". Now that will be pro-active
Pal Don game for change
All have a stake in our crown lands, each want a peace of it, the furry critters and aquadic system need our help is perhaps a way of looking at it over the long hual,,, doo-noo...
Is it worth trying smoething different then what we have now, what benifit will we see in 5 too 10 years. "I" my self have no issue with either or since its all of our crown lands that need a differnt aproch.
The idea to restrict ohv's in sencitive areas "un-known" what they are classed as yet, might be a good thing. Could it improve fishing here in Alberta,,, "maybe".
Would some of the wet lands return too natural state, "maybe".
Is it worth trying, maybe".
I'll take a look in a mirro tonight and ask my self, what can I do wiser to help "all" user groups enjoy what they have as well as my self !
All of us can agree to dis-agree till the cows come home, fact is change is comeing, its here, and now its time to fit into what we need too do.
Just my 2 cents of wrong or right un-known till we get there.
Tap it kool, relaxe, do what's right as it will all work out. Join a club, help promot a riding area that we can share with "all". Now that will be pro-active
Pal Don game for change
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Lund
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Well i wasn't going to be involved but now some of you dragged me in.
I get a good laugh at the some of the comment's on this thread. Though its really not funny.
Pointing finger's, basically a desperate act when you are ignorant and lack knowledge.
"one jet boat vs millions of atv's on a creek or river", "pictures of Nutley at root cause". Snowmobiler's and SAR rescue's are out of control and watch out you snowmobiler's your on radar. And so on and so on....LOL
Anyhow, you guys read this thread and if your going to point, look at your hand and see 3 more pointing back. Fact is, the toys, equipment and what ever your pleasure's of fancy's are, they are not the problem or issue. It's the BONE HEAD operating it.
It doesn't matter what sport you engage in, if your not aware of the environment your in the damage you can cause can be huge. You can be a hiker and cause substantial damage to the environment your hiking in. In fact F'n smoker's can burn and destroy a complete eco system in one toss, so let's ban them for life. LOL. That's how retarded this thread sounds.
What this really boil's down to is again "EDUCATION". Learning about our environment and its eco systems and respecting it.
BUT the sense of entitlement and lack of motivation combined with its somebody else's causing these problem...(pointing fingers again) get's us no where, like spinning our wheels in grease.
As an example, if your crossing on a frozen lake on thin ice, do you walk across and maybe when half way jump up and down and see if it will break? F'n NO
So when your in a jet boat on a skinny river or creek, why would you throttle full bore causing river bed and shore line disturbance????
Maybe because of lack of respect, education and over blown ego?
Your out along a meadow in the mountain's with your ATV and SXS and your body cut's through the creeks spinning tires over and up a bank. To save the day you fallow cause you cannot be out done by him and his POS or you will never hear the end of it.
Again, lack of respect, education and over blown ego?
I could go on, but the fact is EVERYONE on this forum has F'n the environment and has cause a significant impact, including me. The important part is to educate your self about the environment and its eco systems and adopt way's to protect and lessen the impact while enjoying what ever you do. Pointing finger's goes no where, it make's us look stupid.
BTW, turning a blind eye to other being stupid doesn't help, if you see people tearing up a meadow or what ever it maybe in what ever sport.....say something, maybe they just didn't know.
If we don't figure this out, the government will figure it out for you instead and don't blame them or point fingers. They are not the problem.
I get a good laugh at the some of the comment's on this thread. Though its really not funny.
Pointing finger's, basically a desperate act when you are ignorant and lack knowledge.
"one jet boat vs millions of atv's on a creek or river", "pictures of Nutley at root cause". Snowmobiler's and SAR rescue's are out of control and watch out you snowmobiler's your on radar. And so on and so on....LOL
Anyhow, you guys read this thread and if your going to point, look at your hand and see 3 more pointing back. Fact is, the toys, equipment and what ever your pleasure's of fancy's are, they are not the problem or issue. It's the BONE HEAD operating it.
It doesn't matter what sport you engage in, if your not aware of the environment your in the damage you can cause can be huge. You can be a hiker and cause substantial damage to the environment your hiking in. In fact F'n smoker's can burn and destroy a complete eco system in one toss, so let's ban them for life. LOL. That's how retarded this thread sounds.
What this really boil's down to is again "EDUCATION". Learning about our environment and its eco systems and respecting it.
BUT the sense of entitlement and lack of motivation combined with its somebody else's causing these problem...(pointing fingers again) get's us no where, like spinning our wheels in grease.
As an example, if your crossing on a frozen lake on thin ice, do you walk across and maybe when half way jump up and down and see if it will break? F'n NO
So when your in a jet boat on a skinny river or creek, why would you throttle full bore causing river bed and shore line disturbance????
Maybe because of lack of respect, education and over blown ego?
Your out along a meadow in the mountain's with your ATV and SXS and your body cut's through the creeks spinning tires over and up a bank. To save the day you fallow cause you cannot be out done by him and his POS or you will never hear the end of it.
Again, lack of respect, education and over blown ego?
I could go on, but the fact is EVERYONE on this forum has F'n the environment and has cause a significant impact, including me. The important part is to educate your self about the environment and its eco systems and adopt way's to protect and lessen the impact while enjoying what ever you do. Pointing finger's goes no where, it make's us look stupid.
BTW, turning a blind eye to other being stupid doesn't help, if you see people tearing up a meadow or what ever it maybe in what ever sport.....say something, maybe they just didn't know.
If we don't figure this out, the government will figure it out for you instead and don't blame them or point fingers. They are not the problem.
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rzrgade
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By and large I agree with a lot you say ... Up until you mention the government . You see they are made up of people just like us ... They too have all the flaws and quirks that you so valiantly point out in our group here.. They have the ego , the whos department is bigger , who has more authority ....etc etc
Much the same as any other group or collection of individuals . However there is one critical difference , they have the ability to change people's lives , mostly for the good , sadly often it goes the other way though...
So for you to totally remove accountability , remarkably is just as ill informed and laugable as the the rest of the people you are bringing into question ....
Well I understand you have spent time in the military & you are taught not to question authority ( respectively ) however , there are cases the government is responsible for poor decisions ... Many many times over ! I must also point out that the financial implications ( read crooked chit) that occurs in the government today , is a huge problem in poor decision making effecting the average Individual ! However , that is for another day....
I leave you with this final thought..
The world would be much worse of with a shortage of ego ... I would rather a person try and fail rather than fail to try ...
Happy sledding !!
Much the same as any other group or collection of individuals . However there is one critical difference , they have the ability to change people's lives , mostly for the good , sadly often it goes the other way though...
So for you to totally remove accountability , remarkably is just as ill informed and laugable as the the rest of the people you are bringing into question ....
Well I understand you have spent time in the military & you are taught not to question authority ( respectively ) however , there are cases the government is responsible for poor decisions ... Many many times over ! I must also point out that the financial implications ( read crooked chit) that occurs in the government today , is a huge problem in poor decision making effecting the average Individual ! However , that is for another day....
I leave you with this final thought..
The world would be much worse of with a shortage of ego ... I would rather a person try and fail rather than fail to try ...
Happy sledding !!
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Joholio
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Gawd dangit Yar! Doo not suggest industry causes more of a stir that these blasted side by selfs!
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