Farmer talk

[zeebs]

I think the top 2 things to have in place to produce big yields are

#1. Tile

#2. Micros

Dont know how much tile you have or are allowed to put in but here in the states there is actually a shortage of tile. people have seen the benifit of it and have money to spend due to high commodity prices. Every year for the last 6 years we have pattren tiled about 200-300 acres, and I can honestly say we have seen our overall yields increase. One doesnt realize how much he hurts the yield when you plant the crop through a spot that is just a "touch moist." I think we knew it hurt it some what but with yield maps now I can go back and point out everywhere there was a wet spot on the farms before we tiled.

As far as micros go we dont put any on but a couple of my buddies are putting them on and they swear by them. They are pulling 60 to 65 bpa compared to our 50 to 55 bpa soybeans. Looks like micros are in my plans for next year. Although Bounce Im not calling you a liar or telling you how to run your operation but I was talking to an agronomist awhile back about micros and he was telling those foliar products are just a "bandaid" to the fix. Sometime they pay sometimes they dont. He recommended to put them with the dry fertilizer so when the crop is gone you could possibily still have some left in the soil. I realize these are a big investment and its hard to spend money on stuff with no guarantee but if we are going to get to the next level of yield possibilities I believe we will have to spend the money.

Once again Im not telling anyone how to farm but this is my experience and opinions.

 

[linksys]

I think the top 2 things to have in place to produce big yields are

#1. Tile

#2. Micros

Dont know how much tile you have or are allowed to put in but here in the states there is actually a shortage of tile. people have seen the benifit of it and have money to spend due to high commodity prices. Every year for the last 6 years we have pattren tiled about 200-300 acres, and I can honestly say we have seen our overall yields increase. One doesnt realize how much he hurts the yield when you plant the crop through a spot that is just a "touch moist." I think we knew it hurt it some what but with yield maps now I can go back and point out everywhere there was a wet spot on the farms before we tiled.

As far as micros go we dont put any on but a couple of my buddies are putting them on and they swear by them. They are pulling 60 to 65 bpa compared to our 50 to 55 bpa soybeans. Looks like micros are in my plans for next year. Although Bounce Im not calling you a liar or telling you how to run your operation but I was talking to an agronomist awhile back about micros and he was telling those foliar products are just a "bandaid" to the fix. Sometime they pay sometimes they dont. He recommended to put them with the dry fertilizer so when the crop is gone you could possibily still have some left in the soil. I realize these are a big investment and its hard to spend money on stuff with no guarantee but if we are going to get to the next level of yield possibilities I believe we will have to spend the money.

Once again Im not telling anyone how to farm but this is my experience and opinions.

??? What is "tile"

 

[linksys]

??? What is "tile"

Are you talking drainage tile??

 

[zeebs]

Are you talking drainage tile??

No, kitchen and bathroom tile

 

[007sevens]

Here in alberta, we dont use tile as we drain well in comparison to others. Maybe in southern sask, but normally just not a common area of concern. I`m guessing if you seen the hills I farm you would probably laugh. You are right about foliar micros Only time we would use them is when there is potential for a great crop. I use ESN urea that slow releases and gives the plant nitrogen through out the year. works well. Would like to do the same in some of the fields with micros.

 

[zeebs]

Here in alberta, we dont use tile as we drain well in comparison to others. Maybe in southern sask, but normally just not a common area of concern. I`m guessing if you seen the hills I farm you would probably laugh. You are right about foliar micros Only time we would use them is when there is potential for a great crop. I use ESN urea that slow releases and gives the plant nitrogen through out the year. works well. Would like to do the same in some of the fields with micros.

Im sure you farm some mountains, I have buddies that live west central Iowa and their ground rolls like crazy too. we figured for the longest time we didnt need tile since we were farming by the river and had plenty of slope the water ran off too. But now we tile the bottoms side hills and tops. Another thing tile does is controles erosion by increasing the amount of water the soil can hold before it run across the top. Also we need so much oxygen in the soil to grow a crop I think tile also helps with this as well. What Im saying is you dont have to get stuck to need tile.

 

[Bounce]

I here ya, is does seem that way. 70bus wheat is the new norm and it wont be long when 50bus will seem like failure. The sperts have spoke and said that while the farmers are more few doing more acres. That they will have to step up the program as people still seem to think they need 3-5 kids so population is not going down and lifespan has not shortened. To be quite honest I'm not sure the world can support this in 100 years.

I think the top 2 things to have in place to produce big yields are

#1. Tile

#2. Micros

Dont know how much tile you have or are allowed to put in but here in the states there is actually a shortage of tile. people have seen the benifit of it and have money to spend due to high commodity prices. Every year for the last 6 years we have pattren tiled about 200-300 acres, and I can honestly say we have seen our overall yields increase. One doesnt realize how much he hurts the yield when you plant the crop through a spot that is just a "touch moist." I think we knew it hurt it some what but with yield maps now I can go back and point out everywhere there was a wet spot on the farms before we tiled.

As far as micros go we dont put any on but a couple of my buddies are putting them on and they swear by them. They are pulling 60 to 65 bpa compared to our 50 to 55 bpa soybeans. Looks like micros are in my plans for next year. Although Bounce Im not calling you a liar or telling you how to run your operation but I was talking to an agronomist awhile back about micros and he was telling those foliar products are just a "bandaid" to the fix. Sometime they pay sometimes they dont. He recommended to put them with the dry fertilizer so when the crop is gone you could possibily still have some left in the soil. I realize these are a big investment and its hard to spend money on stuff with no guarantee but if we are going to get to the next level of yield possibilities I believe we will have to spend the money.

Once again Im not telling anyone how to farm but this is my experience and opinions.

Bounce, You have my attention. I was looking into this in Red Deer at the farm show. What supplier are you using for your micros?

First off 007sevens my retailer is AGSI - Mundare. This is my second year with this group and all I can say is that I have seen a vast improvement in our crops. In my switch I went from dry/NH3 to some dry but mostly liquid fertilizer. Last year I did micro's on all my peas, and did some test strips in the cereals and canola. The test strips showed improved quality and yields. This year I did all crops expect for 2 quarters; what a mistake. The canola boost I used based on my soil tests was 6-20-5 with 3%mn/1%zn. In my RR canola I split my rates in half and applied with glpho passes. The Invigor had full rate since only one spray pass was made. My invigor field yield was just under 60bu. I had one RR dekaulb field run 65bu.; however since nothing is ever equal this was the first time this field ever seen canola. The cereal boost I believe was 9-18-9 with copper/Zn. My AC andrew yielded 120bu and weighs 66lbs.

Zeebs, ya I agree every agronomist has different views. As stated above, my soil tests were used to see how we would handle seeding nutrients and incrop nutrients. Next year I plan on doing tissue samples, we'll see where this takes us. What I have noticed with agronomist's is that they all hate what the competitor sells; maybe it is just me! Like a combine we must sort through the wheat and the chaff to see what works best on our farms.

 

[linksys]

No, kitchen and bathroom tile

Wow....Ha you otta be on stage somewhere.....not here.....but somewhere

 

[ippielb]

I don't know about you guys, but myself and my father have realized that having a MIG welder is probably the best thing since sliced bread! Had the tie rods on our old John Deere front end loader literally fall off from being non grease-able joints. So we basically held it up there and put tack welds around the cup! wouldn't you know it, easiest fix ever, we were cleaning corrals and this tractor could still fit in the corral, and john deere couldn't get parts for a week and a half, but the quick 5 minute weld job held up for a couple days of abuse.

 

[eclipse1966]

Hey guys,

Any of you have interest in potash that came from a rail derailment out here in BC some time ago? It has been sifted thru screens but it still has small rock/soil contamination. The purity is between 48-52% depending on the lot. Insurance company wants it gone asap. There is approx 20 truck loads available. I was thinking of trucking it to a cleaning facility we have and have it cleaned to over 90% pure but costs maybe too much to make it interesting. Anyway, might be a good deal for the right guy. Pure potash is over $550-600/mt. I could move this for around $95/mt plus freight.

Let me know

Tks - Dennis

 

[popeye]

Where is this potash if a guy was to come get it himself?


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[Bounce]

Well not very good snow on the flat lands but mother nature could not of done a better job for truss day.

 

[Bounce]

And the last of them go up.

 

[snopro]

Looks like someone is getting a new shop for christmas. Lol

 

[underdog]

Nice shed! I'm a little bit jealous. haha

 

[want to ride]

Some deck heads stole my auger engine in btw loads the other day. What a pess off. Took engine, battery, hydraulic pump for mover, battery cables, even the nuts bolts and washers that mount the engine. Did all this in the middle of the afternoon.

 

[snopro]

That takes alot of balls. To bad they still werent there when you got back. Your truck would have looked cool on top of there's.

 

[pete gads]

Looks like your going to have nice shop or shed, oh&s not on site that day as man riding on truss when crane moving them. Its life great when you dont have to deal with all the bull sh'''''''t

 

[eclipse1966]

Where is this potash if a guy was to come get it himself?


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Hi Popeye, tks for the interest but looks like it maybe sold to another S&M member! Sorry.

 

[scotts]

Shed looks great bounce