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The shed is 60 X 104Ft. Roof is on and side walls all done. Have tin ordered for the end walls and doors ordered. Sure is nice to park the Btrain and truck underneath with no frost. Will even be better when we get snow around here.

Officially, it can start snowing now!
 

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So far things are not looking good for moisture for 2012. Hopefully we get some snow soon. Another crop year like last year would be awesome.
 

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So far things are not looking good for moisture for 2012. Hopefully we get some snow soon. Another crop year like last year would be awesome.

I agree this bald azz praire is looking very dry. But a couple three feet of wet snow in March/April will turn things around real quick! Another good year with these prices would be beneficial.

Anyone booked any fertilizer? I booked some for the taxman....
 

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I agree this bald azz praire is looking very dry. But a couple three feet of wet snow in March/April will turn things around real quick! Another good year with these prices would be beneficial.

Anyone booked any fertilizer? I booked some for the taxman....

Prices are all over down south. Urea anywhere from $600-$650 and phos at $790-$825. How about up your way?
 

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Im sure there are people up there that run a draper head for small grains. The dealer called us today and notified us he could get us a new flex draper for beans. I have questions on this move though.

How much yeild increase do you gain by using a draper vs. regular head?

How do they perform in mud? We were told they WOULDNT work in mud, but I question how serious of mud..... a little damp on top or sinking in some or standing water mud????

Maintenance, as far a adjustment on the belts and replacement of belts?

Any other information would be good to know before diving into this investment.
 

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I could be wrong as I have never used one, but the flex header needs a hard surface for the flex part of the header to work. I've looked at different models and they all have the same thought process. They follow the ground so if the ground is soft I can't see how they will work, kinda like your skid shoes dragging in the mud and building up. So I would say that even damp ground might hinder it function. One thing to note is that when you carry the header it is rigid. Right now I use HoneyBee which is much like a Windrower and runs on gauge wheels.
 

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Im sure there are people up there that run a draper head for small grains. The dealer called us today and notified us he could get us a new flex draper for beans. I have questions on this move though.

How much yeild increase do you gain by using a draper vs. regular head?

How do they perform in mud? We were told they WOULDNT work in mud, but I question how serious of mud..... a little damp on top or sinking in some or standing water mud????

Maintenance, as far a adjustment on the belts and replacement of belts?

Any other information would be good to know before diving into this investment.

We have 2 combines running draper heads, and the old girl is still running an auger. There are pro's and cons to them.
If you have ever run a swather, you will know how they work.
I haven't had any experience with a flex header though. What kind of terrain are you in? We run honey bee headers that we can set right down on the ground basically, and it follows the contour of the land.
As for mud, if you have it skimming the ground, and it gets a little wet, you will definitely notice it.
I hope this helps a little.

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I could be wrong as I have never used one, but the flex header needs a hard surface for the flex part of the header to work. I've looked at different models and they all have the same thought process. They follow the ground so if the ground is soft I can't see how they will work, kinda like your skid shoes dragging in the mud and building up. So I would say that even damp ground might hinder it function. One thing to note is that when you carry the header it is rigid. Right now I use HoneyBee which is much like a Windrower and runs on gauge wheels.

I should have cleared myself up....... The draper we would be getting is a new flex draper from Deere and right now we are using just a regular 635 hydraflex head. Althought with the 635 you can cut beans in pretty marginal conditions (standing water, have done it but by accident at 1:30 in the morning) the thing with the hydaflex is you can set it so sensitive to the ground you can still cut without it pushing.

We were told where you would have trouble with the draper is if the belts or rollers got any sort of build up of mud on them the belt wouldnt run straight. I'm sure it would if you were in horrible conditions, but I wondering how big of an issue this is. How bad does it have to get before it starts picking up on your rollers and belts???? Do you have to be sinking in 8" or more or just a little pushing one time at the cutter bar do it?
 
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I should have cleared myself up....... The draper we would be getting is a new flex draper from Deere and right now we are using just a regular 635 hydraflex head. Althought with the 635 you can cut beans in pretty marginal conditions (standing water, have done it but by accident at 1:30 in the morning) the thing with the hydaflex is you can set it so sensitive to the ground you can still cut without it pushing.

We were told where you would have trouble with the draper is if the belts or rollers got any sort of build up of mud on them the belt wouldnt run straight. I'm sure it would if you were in horrible conditions, but I wondering how big of an issue this is. How bad does it have to get before it starts picking up on your rollers and belts???? Do you have to be sinking in 8" or more or just a little pushing one time at the cutter do it?

You should be fine with that then.
Two years ago, we were swathing in the middle of a blizzard, and only problem we had was the one belt would suddenly stop moving. Tightened it up a little bit, and it worked great after that.

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You should be fine with that then.
Two years ago, we were swathing in the middle of a blizzard, and only problem we had was the one belt would suddenly stop moving. Tightened it up a little bit, and it worked great after that.

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I agree with the underdog
 

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We use the 40 ft macdon and a 35 ft macdon. both are flex drapers on case combines. we love the way they work wet dry flat or uneven ground have not run into an issue. we have had pretty wet conditions to try them out the last two years cutting lentils where a two wheel drive truck could not enter the field we were combining. as for mud stopping the drapers or the rollers i have found it plugging the feeder house before the drapers. I believe in the flex drapers giving us better yield and quality from being able to cut and combine them instead of swathing the lentils
 

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This thread is a guilty pleasure of mine. Most of the time I have no idea what your talking about, but its a different world and I enjoy following it. I guess its like my wife's desire to get a new purse, I have no idea why she needs it but she must have it. Thats this thread for me.
 
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