Farmer talk

[ferniesnow]

So I'm watching a story on CTV news over lunch and they are talking about all the grizzlies getting killed eating spilled grain on the railway tracks through Banff National Park. My question is ......what the hell is grain doing on the tracks to begin with???? Can't CP Rail build a rail car that doesn't leak grain all the way to the coast? Sheeeesh!

One day I'm gonna go down to the tracks (CN or CP mainline) and actually see for myself how much grain is actually there!! The reason being, that the greenies out here use that all the time to push various causes. Any little thing whether it be tailed frogs, special plants, noxious weeds, badgers, caribou, winter grazing for ungulates, old growth forests, and they jump all over it for a special cause. They even want something done with highway #3 so the bears, etc. have a safe crossing.

One day there will be a great big Park in SE BC from Kananaskis/Banff all the way to the US border. From the Alberta border to the height of land west of Elkford and basically drawing a line straight south. And they just keep picking away a little at a time.....

 

[snopro]

I only pray that doesn't happen.....

 

[Snohog]

So I'm bagging silage and you know it's wet when the table can't move it and the fingers look like their mixing soup!!!!!

 

[underdog]

One day I'm gonna go down to the tracks (CN or CP mainline) and actually see for myself how much grain is actually there!! The reason being, that the greenies out here use that all the time to push various causes. Any little thing whether it be tailed frogs, special plants, noxious weeds, badgers, caribou, winter grazing for ungulates, old growth forests, and they jump all over it for a special cause. They even want something done with highway #3 so the bears, etc. have a safe crossing.

One day there will be a great big Park in SE BC from Kananaskis/Banff all the way to the US border. From the Alberta border to the height of land west of Elkford and basically drawing a line straight south. And they just keep picking away a little at a time.....

Friggin worse than california!

 

[ferniesnow]

I only pray that doesn't happen.....

I'll point out two things; one is wolverines and the other one is new and let's just wait and see what happens to Rock Snot and the fishermen/women in the Fernie area in the future.

We all know that biologists love the grizzly bear denning areas and they only hope they can find active dens in the basins that we snowmobile in. Then they make waves and try to shut us down. Coming out of Montana is a new
one but the same old thing; it is wolverines and their denning areas. The Fernie Wildsight group is in close contact with American funding and the Sierra Club and in fact throughout the whole Columbia valley they are sticking there nose into most things.

The second item, and it is new to me, is Rock Snot! Enjoy the read and it probably won't affect snowmobiling but some group will want some of the back-country out-of-bounds for this, yet another cause1
Rock snot congests rivers in what is growing world-wide environmental problem

at 10:00 on August 14, 2011, EDT.

Terri Theodore, The Canadian Press
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VANCOUVER - It's nickname says it all.
Rock snot is a type of slimy, yellow-brown, freshwater algae that, like a cold, has spread quickly from a small area on Vancouver Island two decades ago.
It's now a "global invasive species," scientists say, spreading rapidly from B.C. to locations such as Iceland, New Zealand and across North America — including Alberta, Quebec and New Brunswick.
Matthias Herborg, the aquatic invasive species co-ordinator for the B.C. Ministry of Environment, said experts don't know why didymosphenia geminata, or didymo, spread so quickly.
Data as far back as the 1880's shows didymo has been native in rivers in a small area near Nanaimo, B.C., but around 1990 it started to spread.
"We don't know why, but that's when suddenly we had a series of years of really big blooms which kind of spread across Vancouver Island," Herborg said.
"And then in subsequent years it started to spread around the world. . . It's kind of a global invasive species."
While obnoxious looking, didymo isn't a threat to human health, but it can potentially alter food webs in rivers and could impact the fish, said Max Bothwell, a scientist with Environment Canada.
"However, the evidence for this is mixed and the effects of didymo on trout seem to depend on the species and the particular circumstances. There is no evidence that didymo blooms have harmed salmon populations anywhere in the world," Bothwell said in an email to The Canadian Press.
It usually invades pristine rivers and watersheds and is hard to miss under the water, Herborg said.
"It looks like a shag carpet basically — you know, one of those '70s numbers — rolled out on the bottom."
It's only when it's removed from the water when it looks "snotty, so to speak," he said with a chuckle.
There's also an economic and recreational impact, Herborg said, when fish guides take their clients deep into what's supposed to be pristine and untouched areas.
Didymo can slough off the bottom of the river during high water flow. When it dries on the river banks it often looks like dried-up toilet paper, causing people to think there's a sewage problem in the river.
"It greatly degrades the recreational experience," Herborg noted.
Experts agree the most common cause of the spread of didymo is on the bottom of the felt-soled hip waders of recreational fishermen.
At least one manufacture is phasing out the production of the felt-soles and those types of waders have been banned in Alaska.
But Bothwell said anything that moves water or microbes can spread didymo.
Didymo needs a stable rocky bottom and stable water flows to do well and wouldn't survive in many of Canada's waterways, he said.
Herborg said they're aren't sure why it does so well in what are pristine, nutrient-poor rivers.
"We don't know if suddenly someone introduced a different strain, or if something happened to the native population and it changed in a way," he said. "It's still a big unknown."
The only way to get of it would be to use chemicals, Herborg said, not an option when the ecological impact on everything else in the river is considered.

 

[zeebs]

So i guess the neighbor "cant handle" the smell of 2,4-D . Yesterday we had a custom spraying guy drop nozzeling corn for us and he went around the neighbors building site and we told him to watch the wind because he has a garden to the west of the field. when the applicator went by his house the wind was out of the south west but just to be safe he turned off 12 rows. Shortly after the neighbor drives out to the water tender and chews his azz up one side and down the other and told him thanks for killing his garden it was just what he figured. The tender guy said the applicator shut 12 rows off going by his house. "oh no" the neighbor says "I saw he was spraying" The tender guy had none of it and just ignored him. The neighbor then proceeds to our yard where my uncle and I were waxing a tractor and sticks his head in the door and yells "Thanks ya fuggers I told ya I couldn't handle that chit, and ya do it to me anyways!" then turns around and walks back to his pickup and acted like he was puking and couldnt breathe. I just ignored him and uncle went to talk to him and was told he was "allergic" to it.

Dont know what we are suppose to do. The chemical company had a respray program and thats the product they were paying for. I feel if he is allergic to it he will have to learn to handle it. Im allergic to almost all dusts and molds and pollen but if I have to be around a level that bothers me I just put on my respirator.

Funny thing is about 3 days before this event the same neighbor wanted to buy our 8310 tractor since we are getting a different one for the new planter. We figured we would sell it to him but after yesterdays deal I wouldnt sell it to him for $500,000 just to cause some more misery for him. Am I right for having a bad attitude over this deal?

 

[snopro]

If the wind was blowing away from his yard and the applicator shut off for the 12 rows just to be extra safe I would tell him to go pound sand. An agrologist should be able to inspect his garden for spray damage to disprove his claims. If the guy is allergic to sprays what the hell is he doing farming anyways? Bad part is you gotta live by this guy.

 

[zeebs]

If the wind was blowing away from his yard and the applicator shut off for the 12 rows just to be extra safe I would tell him to go pound sand. An agrologist should be able to inspect his garden for spray damage to disprove his claims. If the guy is allergic to sprays what the hell is he doing farming anyways? Bad part is you gotta live by this guy.

Thats what we figured. The whole garden doesnt carry a value of $100 and we didnt know what the hell he is gona do when 2,4-D resistent corn and beans come out cause people will be spraying that stuff EVERYWHERE!

 

[adamg]

I put that s**t on everything!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9DwA_VZDno

 

[snopro]

Hey Zeebs, what is drop nozzling corn? I've never heard that term before.

 

[zeebs]

when you put drops on the sprayer. It has a cap just like you normaly run only instead of a tip being in the cap there is a plastic tube or stainless pipe that hangs down about 12" to 18" and has a tip on the end. Used to get the chemical down to the ground after the crop has closed the rows.

 

[zeebs]

They also use them to apply Liquid N later in season (hence stainless steel). This guy sucks at spraying the way he runs over the corn coming out of the rows which is NOT normal but if you look close when he comes out of the rows on the left side of the screen he has drops on.

 

[zeebs]

Auction day today! Uncle and I are gonna go see if we can get a tractor bought.

 

[underdog]

Auction day today! Uncle and I are gonna go see if we can get a tractor bought.

Auction burgers are the best.

 

[underdog]

stuck....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrp5ThGlbC4

 

[mathrulz]

stuck....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrp5ThGlbC4

Wow! I'd say. What's the reason for driving the semi truck in the mud like that though? If tracked equipment is getting stuck I doubt you'll make it in a truck!

 

[snopro]

That is an amazing video. HaHa. Good thing they had the big JD to bail everyone else out. Lol. Sad thing is to add insult to injury the local county mountie will probably give them a citation when they get out on the secondary road and all that caked on mud starts flying off everyones wheels. Happened to me if you can believe it. They made me go out and clean up the gravel road after I got my tractor stuck a few years ago. Someone complained. We got neighbours like you do there Zeebs.

 

[snopro]

Wow! I'd say. What's the reason for driving the semi truck in the mud like that though? If tracked equipment is getting stuck I doubt you'll make it in a truck!

I thought the same thing but they are probably winch trucks.

 

[Summiteer]

Auction burgers are the best.

Second only to track burgers or boneless ribs

 

[adamg]

Wow... brings back memories of last winter, my first season sledding, and some stucks I got myself into.