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Well the 9750 and 7120 are both what? Class 7 combines, so they are comparable....
 

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You would be better to compare to a 9760 or 9770 depending on the year of the Case.
 

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I love my combine!

Purchased a 2008 Lexion 590R for this season. This is the simplest combine to set than I have ever run. We still have some JD'S left on the farm but purged the TR'S. Capacity on this machine is just awesome. Had some AC Andrew wheat run 100 bu. plus, have a 36ft header and had no problems at 6.0 mile an hour. I had more capacity but never combined this fast. Canola running at 50 BU. plus and doing 8.0 mile an hour on a 25FT. swath. All losses less than 1%. Fuel is running at about 1 gallon per acre, the Cat C13 is a little thirsty, but the bushel's per day more than makes up for it. Fuel is less in this very dry canola.

What do I not like: My machine is a 2008 and it is going to be a challenge to set it up for Yield monitoring and variable rate technology. The cab is a little noisy, JD cannot be beat for cab comfort and controls. Also, dealership's are slim at the moment. My dealer is Lacombe the other dealer is Veg. The flip side to this is the toolbox that is offer with the machine. The dealer loads a tool box with parts and sends it to the farm; only pay for the parts used.

Some have commented on moving parts but belts and bearings are easy to change and their are no belt locked belts on this machine like the JD'S or TR'S. I do not have to remove three belts to get to one. In regards to the Case, if a pump decides not to perform to spec. only the dealership will be able to diagnose. Also in regards to JD'S have many clients that have eaten many feeder chains; however I think this problem is being fixed.

Price is also an advantage here. The JD'S, who want to be in the same class, are over $300,000 and the 2008 Lexion is in the $200,000 even with the 36FT. straight cut header.

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Nice combine!!!!!! Id like to try the new CLAAS 770, that would be a beast of a combine!!!
 

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I love my combine!

Purchased a 2008 Lexion 590R for this season. This is the simplest combine to set than I have ever run. We still have some JD'S left on the farm but purged the TR'S. Capacity on this machine is just awesome. Had some AC Andrew wheat run 100 bu. plus, have a 36ft header and had no problems at 6.0 mile an hour. I had more capacity but never combined this fast. Canola running at 50 BU. plus and doing 8.0 mile an hour on a 25FT. swath. All losses less than 1%. Fuel is running at about 1 gallon per acre, the Cat C13 is a little thirsty, but the bushel's per day more than makes up for it. Fuel is less in this very dry canola.

What do I not like: My machine is a 2008 and it is going to be a challenge to set it up for Yield monitoring and variable rate technology. The cab is a little noisy, JD cannot be beat for cab comfort and controls. Also, dealership's are slim at the moment. My dealer is Lacombe the other dealer is Veg. The flip side to this is the toolbox that is offer with the machine. The dealer loads a tool box with parts and sends it to the farm; only pay for the parts used.

Some have commented on moving parts but belts and bearings are easy to change and their are no belt locked belts on this machine like the JD'S or TR'S. I do not have to remove three belts to get to one. In regards to the Case, if a pump decides not to perform to spec. only the dealership will be able to diagnose. Also in regards to JD'S have many clients that have eaten many feeder chains; however I think this problem is being fixed.

Price is also an advantage here. The JD'S, who want to be in the same class, are over $300,000 and the 2008 Lexion is in the $200,000 even with the 36FT. straight cut header.

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Our neighbor has a 760. Thing does 6.5 on a 80 bushel wheat crop pushing a 40' header. Only problem is parts and service availability. Otherwise we would have a couple yesterday.

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My neighbors Case had just over 20 hours when the rotor shaft took out the right side of the combine; complete right-off!



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My neighbors brand bew JD combine had the crank go on his engine with even less hours then that



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They're all junk now a day's, but they are all awesome machines. JD, nasty massey, case, NH..... Doesnt matter what you run. Will still be running for parts. Or in those cases, a new combine.



I can't comment on how Case handled their "rotor" problem but I have heard how Deere handled their "crank" issue.....but let's be honest.....I don't care what brand you have, they all break eventually and at times have premature failures (for whatever reason) .......To me, it is how the company handles these issue's....every manufacturer has an issue sooner or later.....how they handle it is the key deciding factor to keep supporting that company or move on to to another....

Back to the story at hand;
I heard that a couple of years ago, Deere had a bad batch of cranks go into their engines. These cranks were apparently drilled improperly and some (not all) failed. The problem was discovered by Deere after the combine's were delivered and already in use throughout North America. What Deere did next is what blows me away.......They knew that the bad cranks were only in a certain engine size....so they strategically placed complete engines at their parts depots across the country ready to ship (air freight) to any and all failures. Those cranks that did not fail....and most did not fail, were brought in after harvest and changed out with new cranks.

I know personally of one that failed......
A guy that I know blew the engine in his new combine. The crank failed at about 4:00 in the afternoon. Catastrophic failure.....the crank went through the block. The dealer promptly notified the closest parts depot and Deere had the complete engine at their door the next morning. Meanwhile the dealer hauled the broken combine in to their shop and had the engine pulled and the new one put in......the customer was up and running the next afternoon.....less than 24 hours had passed and he was going again.

Those engine cranks that made it through the harvest without problems were brought in over the winter and new cranks were installed.

Again, all makes have issues once in a while......how they handle those issues are the key as who to support. In the case of the story above, he was truly impressed at how it was handled.
 

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That's a great story. Kinda gives you some hope that manufacturers actually care about their customers.
 

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My neighbors Case had just over 20 hours when the rotor shaft took out the right side of the combine; complete right-off!



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My neighbors brand bew JD combine had the crank go on his engine with even less hours then that



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They're all junk now a day's, but they are all awesome machines. JD, nasty massey, case, NH..... Doesnt matter what you run. Will still be running for parts. Or in those cases, a new combine.



I can't comment on how Case handled their "rotor" problem but I have heard how Deere handled their "crank" issue.....but let's be honest.....I don't care what brand you have, they all break eventually and at times have premature failures (for whatever reason) .......To me, it is how the company handles these issue's....every manufacturer has an issue sooner or later.....how they handle it is the key deciding factor to keep supporting that company or move on to to another....

Back to the story at hand;
I heard that a couple of years ago, Deere had a bad batch of cranks go into their engines. These cranks were apparently drilled improperly and some (not all) failed. The problem was discovered by Deere after the combine's were delivered and already in use throughout North America. What Deere did next is what blows me away.......They knew that the bad cranks were only in a certain engine size....so they strategically placed complete engines at their parts depots across the country ready to ship (air freight) to any and all failures. Those cranks that did not fail....and most did not fail, were brought in after harvest and changed out with new cranks.

I know personally of one that failed......
A guy that I know blew the engine in his new combine. The crank failed at about 4:00 in the afternoon. Catastrophic failure.....the crank went through the block. The dealer promptly notified the closest parts depot and Deere had the complete engine at their door the next morning. Meanwhile the dealer hauled the broken combine in to their shop and had the engine pulled and the new one put in......the customer was up and running the next afternoon.....less than 24 hours had passed and he was going again.

Those engine cranks that made it through the harvest without problems were brought in over the winter and new cranks were installed.

Again, all makes have issues once in a while......how they handle those issues are the key as who to support. In the case of the story above, he was truly impressed at how it was handled.

And THAT is why we like our deeres. Our dealer is really good to us, and always have support that is second to none. Our salesman even comes sledding with us.

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I love my combine!

Purchased a 2008 Lexion 590R for this season. This is the simplest combine to set than I have ever run. We still have some JD'S left on the farm but purged the TR'S. Capacity on this machine is just awesome. Had some AC Andrew wheat run 100 bu. plus, have a 36ft header and had no problems at 6.0 mile an hour. I had more capacity but never combined this fast. Canola running at 50 BU. plus and doing 8.0 mile an hour on a 25FT. swath. All losses less than 1%. Fuel is running at about 1 gallon per acre, the Cat C13 is a little thirsty, but the bushel's per day more than makes up for it. Fuel is less in this very dry canola.

What do I not like: My machine is a 2008 and it is going to be a challenge to set it up for Yield monitoring and variable rate technology. The cab is a little noisy, JD cannot be beat for cab comfort and controls. Also, dealership's are slim at the moment. My dealer is Lacombe the other dealer is Veg. The flip side to this is the toolbox that is offer with the machine. The dealer loads a tool box with parts and sends it to the farm; only pay for the parts used.

Some have commented on moving parts but belts and bearings are easy to change and their are no belt locked belts on this machine like the JD'S or TR'S. I do not have to remove three belts to get to one. In regards to the Case, if a pump decides not to perform to spec. only the dealership will be able to diagnose. Also in regards to JD'S have many clients that have eaten many feeder chains; however I think this problem is being fixed.

Price is also an advantage here. The JD'S, who want to be in the same class, are over $300,000 and the 2008 Lexion is in the $200,000 even with the 36FT. straight cut header.

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Have any pictures of inside the cab? My grandpa runs combine sometimes too, and I would like to see how simple the controls are.
 

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I can't comment on how Case handled their "rotor" problem but I have heard how Deere handled their "crank" issue.....but let's be honest.....I don't care what brand you have, they all break eventually and at times have premature failures (for whatever reason) .......To me, it is how the company handles these issue's....every manufacturer has an issue sooner or later.....how they handle it is the key deciding factor to keep supporting that company or move on to to another....

Back to the story at hand;
I heard that a couple of years ago, Deere had a bad batch of cranks go into their engines. These cranks were apparently drilled improperly and some (not all) failed. The problem was discovered by Deere after the combine's were delivered and already in use throughout North America. What Deere did next is what blows me away.......They knew that the bad cranks were only in a certain engine size....so they strategically placed complete engines at their parts depots across the country ready to ship (air freight) to any and all failures. Those cranks that did not fail....and most did not fail, were brought in after harvest and changed out with new cranks.

I know personally of one that failed......
A guy that I know blew the engine in his new combine. The crank failed at about 4:00 in the afternoon. Catastrophic failure.....the crank went through the block. The dealer promptly notified the closest parts depot and Deere had the complete engine at their door the next morning. Meanwhile the dealer hauled the broken combine in to their shop and had the engine pulled and the new one put in......the customer was up and running the next afternoon.....less than 24 hours had passed and he was going again.

Those engine cranks that made it through the harvest without problems were brought in over the winter and new cranks were installed.

Again, all makes have issues once in a while......how they handle those issues are the key as who to support. In the case of the story above, he was truly impressed at how it was handled.

And THAT is why we like our deeres. Our dealer is really good to us, and always have support that is second to none. Our salesman even comes sledding with us.

Sent from my Desire HD

I'm not a farmer but was raised in the heart of Saskatchewan so I doo have a soft spot for our farmer guys. I agree with "linksys" about the marketing and how the company handles issues. If one puts the above posts together and visualizes a little bit with what we doo.......Arctic Cat, Polaris, and Skidoo, we as sledders are in a similar situation.

They are all good machines until they break (I still favor my D00). Then you need a dealer.......

I ride a Doo from Mr. R's. When I changed back to Doo, Mr. R's was in beautiful, downtown Milo nearly 4 hours away and I chose that dealership because of personal recommendations. My first new Doo, this time around, was the 08 XPX and everyone knows how that came out. Well, because of service, a bond was formed.

Ken/Kevin sold the store to another couple of great guys, Ryan/Tyler, and the store moved two hours closer. The service is the same; second to none! And yes, the owners & technician even come sledding with us.
 

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I'm not a farmer but was raised in the heart of Saskatchewan so I doo have a soft spot for our farmer guys. I agree with "linksys" about the marketing and how the company handles issues. If one puts the above posts together and visualizes a little bit with what we doo.......Arctic Cat, Polaris, and Skidoo, we as sledders are in a similar situation.

They are all good machines until they break (I still favor my D00). Then you need a dealer.......

I ride a Doo from Mr. R's. When I changed back to Doo, Mr. R's was in beautiful, downtown Milo nearly 4 hours away and I chose that dealership because of personal recommendations. My first new Doo, this time around, was the 08 XPX and everyone knows how that came out. Well, because of service, a bond was formed.

Ken/Kevin sold the store to another couple of great guys, Ryan/Tyler, and the store moved two hours closer. The service is the same; second to none! And yes, the owners & technician even come sledding with us.
Where are those dang "like" buttons?
 

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If Deere keeps up the service they have been giving their won't be a Deere around here any more, our combine was having issues with the separator ingaging, it was a Friday night... So we called the service manager and the best answer we go from him was "well theirs no mechanics in the shop till Monday, so Monday morning I'll get them to give you a call" But I do agree, they all have shops, they all break sooner or later, they all have advantages and disadvantages, but in the end as long as it gets the job done
 

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If Deere keeps up the service they have been giving their won't be a Deere around here any more, our combine was having issues with the separator ingaging, it was a Friday night... So we called the service manager and the best answer we go from him was "well theirs no mechanics in the shop till Monday, so Monday morning I'll get them to give you a call" But I do agree, they all have shops, they all break sooner or later, they all have advantages and disadvantages, but in the end as long as it gets the job done

No service tech's till Monday....that may be an acceptable answer during the off season or middle of winter, but not on a combine during harvest season!!! I would be making a call to the general manager and letting him know. I would guess the issue will be dealt with quickly......if not, it may be time to search out a new dealer......
 

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No service tech's till Monday....that may be an acceptable answer during the off season or middle of winter, but not on a combine during harvest season!!! I would be making a call to the general manager and letting him know. I would guess the issue will be dealt with quickly......if not, it may be time to search out a new dealer......
yep no kidding i think it would be a call to the manager/owner of the establishment and if they made little or no effort to support you i would have drove the green pos right through their front friggen doors.
just sayin. lose a weekend of work as a farmer right now you may lose half your years income.
 

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Have any pictures of inside the cab? My grandpa runs combine sometimes too, and I would like to see how simple the controls are.

Have some inside pictures and an outside picture of how easy to it is to change headers. All hydraulic/electrical are on one block that you simply unscrew and attach to the next header. Very clean and easy to do.

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Cab controls very easy to run.
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The two yellow buttons are separator and header start; spring loaded for quick stopping. The machine only has two gears and they are push button controlled. Also has a half throttle option which I like, it is used for road travel as well. When hydraulic lock-out is activated the computer will control engine one road. Combine does 22mph on the road. Reverse is a push button. And one of the best buttons is the grain tank open/close button; especially since we had this little rain.

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The rotary dial controls all settings. Lexion has auto settings for different grains and you can also save your own grain settings. Also can fine tune settings on the go of course. The monitor displays grain loss, tailing load, grain return load, platform hieght/contour mode, and alarms. Also can custom display personal settings. Yield/moisture also displayed.

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Jotystick controls include auger out/in; feederhouse quick stop. header up/down (auto contour and height control) button. Another button for Wings up/down and fore/aft, unload auger engage button and the auto pilot button. Auto pilot pre-GPS, I have lazer eyes on the straight cut header, it works pretty good. Also had a button on back of joystick for Vario header or manual contour.

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The other option that grandpa will like is the fridge; which is located under the buddy seat. Works good for beer, I mean sandwich's/juice.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Hopefully back in the field today....
 

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Have some inside pictures and an outside picture of how easy to it is to change headers. All hydraulic/electrical are on one block that you simply unscrew and attach to the next header. Very clean and easy to do.

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Cab controls very easy to run.
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The two yellow buttons are separator and header start; spring loaded for quick stopping. The machine only has two gears and they are push button controlled. Also has a half throttle option which I like, it is used for road travel as well. When hydraulic lock-out is activated the computer will control engine one road. Combine does 22mph on the road. Reverse is a push button. And one of the best buttons is the grain tank open/close button; especially since we had this little rain.

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The rotary dial controls all settings. Lexion has auto settings for different grains and you can also save your own grain settings. Also can fine tune settings on the go of course. The monitor displays grain loss, tailing load, grain return load, platform hieght/contour mode, and alarms. Also can custom display personal settings. Yield/moisture also displayed.

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Jotystick controls include auger out/in; feederhouse quick stop. header up/down (auto contour and height control) button. Another button for Wings up/down and fore/aft, unload auger engage button and the auto pilot button. Auto pilot pre-GPS, I have lazer eyes on the straight cut header, it works pretty good. Also had a button on back of joystick for Vario header or manual contour.

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The other option that grandpa will like is the fridge; which is located under the buddy seat. Works good for beer, I mean sandwich's/juice.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Hopefully back in the field today....

Very nice. If only they would bring us a demo.

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Only 350 acres beans left. Should be done tomorrow bout happy hour. We've been averaging between 200 and 240 acres a day. Haven't had a drop of rain since the word "go". It's the driest fall I've ever seen. Had to slow up from 7 with the chisel plow to 5 since we kept breaking stuff. Put the hardened tip points on the chisel plow at the beginning of the season and had them completely burned off in about 750 acres. Bean yields have been solid anywhere from 60 planted before the rain to 45 after the rain. If we could have only caught a rain in august we might have had some 65 maybe 70 bushel beans. I'll be busy but try to give updates once corn harvest starts rolling! HAPPY HARVEST!!:beer:
 

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It's been dry here to. I have been out discing up sloughs and everything is coming up hard and lumpy. We need some moisture before spring or we will be in biggggg trouble.
 

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we run older lexion 480R and love it to only thing is service not the best. finished wheat which averaged 65-70 and only 40 ac canola left which ran around 60-70. some spots as high as 85 we need moisture to can put hand in cracks. what a differance from 45 days ago thought we were going to do alot of pulling things out farm north morinville
 
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