Economy/Recession

[800HMX]

I have been to Norway. The average citizen has no where close to the quality of life we as Albertan's have had. We got this way because the wealth from our resources was transferred to the people, not the government.


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[eclipse1966]

hmmmm I have been there many times for business and I did not see it that way. Granted they don't have the big houses like we have here but they have a pretty good lifestyle with all the amenities one would expect.

I have been to Norway. The average citizen has no where close to the quality of life we as Albertan's have had. We got this way because the wealth from our resources was transferred to the people, not the government.


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[800HMX]

Yes great people, smaller homes, good quality of life and a clean safe country. One of the most expensive places on the planet to live yet professional wages half what we pay here. Way less disposable income, but well educated. They have taken taxation to a whole new level. Not many could ever afford to eat at a restaurant.

hmmmm I have been there many times for business and I did not see it that way. Granted they don't have the big houses like we have here but they have a pretty good lifestyle with all the amenities one would expect.

 

[DRD]

Think I agree with this guy:

Written by Garry Harrison.

Say what you will about Pierre Trudeau – and you may say
many negative things about a man who deliberately chose to spend
the SecondWorld War sitting on the sidelines, who shilled for Red
China while it murdered tens of millions of people, who was a
life-long apologist for Soviet Communism, who began a relationship
with a teenager when he was already an old man, who nearly spent
Canada into bankruptcy, who tried to steal the wealth of the West and
ruined a generation of Albertans, whose quest for personal glory
nearly broke the Canadian federation, and who recklessly fathered a
daughter when he was a septuagenarian and therefore left a little girl
of nine without a father when he died – but it is beyond dispute that
he was at least an intelligent man. It is true that he was also a
cold, reckless, and destructive man, but there was definitely
something there.

Of Justin it may be said that he has managed to inherit all of the
flaws of the father – his recklessness, his, arrogance, his
willingness to apologize to and appease enemies of our civilization,
and his almost-unique ability to be wrong about every issue of
significance. Whether or not he inherited the other qualities of his
parents – that is to say whether his personal life is as dissolute and
debauched as that of his father – is not currently a matter of public
record, but I imagine that it will be soon enough. However, it can be
said with certainty that M. Trudeau did not inherit his father’s sole
virtue: everything that is already in the public record suggests that
Justin Trudeau is a profoundly stupid man whose only qualification for
national leadership is that he has a famous name. That he should, at
this particular juncture in history, be considered a contender for
national office ought to shame all Canadians.

What, pray tell, has this man ever accomplished in his entire
life? His biography is available for all to read. Young Master
Trudeau, so far as I can tell, has never held anything resembling a
real job for any length of time. His biography describes him as having
been a teacher, but he was still a substitute teacher at least as late
as 1999 (he worked at my High School) and he appears to have begun a
never-completed graduate degree in 2002. Before that – when he was
already in his mid-twenties – he was a ski bum in Whistler. In other
words, this would-be Prime Minister appears to have – at the absolute
most – had about three years of full-time work experience before
seeking to lead the nation. This man never led anything in his entire
life. Quite literally he doesn’t have the requisite experience on his
resume to be hired as the Manager of a Starbucks. Indeed, to be very
clear, the last sentence wasn’t intended to be at all insulting to
anyone who either manages or works for Starbucks – I’m a frequent
customer and it is, by all accounts – a very challenging job. But,
surely, we can all agree that Prime Minister is a job that requires at
least the same level of previous management experience as Starbucks
management?

Consider all that you have achieved in your own life. Most of you,
I presume, are from background rather like myself. That is to say that
you are from middle class families and had to earn your way through
life. You had to work to pay your way through school. You had to worry
about paying the rent, about saving money for a down payment, about
how much of a mortgage that you could afford. Most of you have
probably worked bad jobs or taken work beneath ur education and
dignity because we simply needed the money. Some of you probably
missed out on having fun – on ski trips to pick one relevant example –
either because you could not afford them or because you simply had to
work. That, you and I probably both believe, is simply a natural part
of life. All of that is quite foreign to Justin Trudeau.

Now, I am both a conservative and a capitalist. I do not begrudge
or resent great wealth and privilege in and of itself. One of the
primary aims of my own life is to eventually earn (and manage to keep,
in the face of a rapacious state) enough so that the next generation
of Yoshidas doesn’t have to make compromises when it comes to
fundamental life decisions for financial reasons. I think that people
have a right to earn as much as they can and to pass that along to
their children. But, as the children of privilege get to enjoy certain
advantages in life, so do I believe that those to whom much is given
have a profound moral responsibility to contribute to the world in
some fashion exchange for all that they have been given in life.

And what, we ought to enquire, has M. Trudeau done with his life
and privileges? His accomplishments such as they are – eternal years
as a student, two partially-completed Masters’ degrees, and perhaps a
few years of work experience – are scant when compared with those of
the average middle-class Canadian of modest means and background. I
could literally walk down the street outside of my home and pick out a
hundred random people with more work experience, education, and life
experience than M .Trudeau has. When you consider that this man is the
child of a multi-millionaire and carries arguably the most famous name
in Canada, his below-average record is particularly shameful. This man
had every single advantage that it is possible for a young Canadian to
have and that is all that he could do with his life?

In general, I view the idle rich to be more objects of pity than
ones deserving of hatred. That calculation, however, changes rather
rapidly when they aspire, as M. Trudeau does, to translate that
unearned privilege into power over the rest of us. If “Justin Trudeau”
were instead “Justin Thompson” it’s pretty safe to guess that he’d be
collecting EI and writing a screenplay on a battered laptop at some
local coffee shop. The only reason why we are threatened with the
prospect of this man in 24 Sussex is that he carries a famous surname.
It is the greatest of ironies that so much of the support for this
particular man comes from the sort of people who spend the rest of
their time re-blogging Tumblr articles on “white privilege.”

Now, as Canada prepares to join the fight against ISIS and the
other Islamist barbarians who threaten our people and way of life, we
see that M. Trudeau intends to use his unearned privileges to carry on
his father’s tradition of serving an an apologist for and appeaser of
all of the enemies of our civilization. In this he is, most
regrettably, simply carrying on in the long tradition of a Quebec
political establishment whose behaviour in the face of our enemies has
long been disgraceful and immoral. Just as the Quebec political
establishment took seditious and at times almost traitorous positions
in the face of the German threat in both World Wars (shameful episodes
that are somehow generally hushed-up in the retelling of our history),
today M. Trudeau is, as his father once was, on the other side in the
great crusade for civilization.

Justin Trudeau in 24 Sussex – probably in coalition with the New
Democrats – would likely be fatal for the Canadian Federation. How
long do you think, in this day and age, would the Western Provinces
remain willing to accept the dictates of a Quebec-controlled
government hostile to the very basis of its entire economy? This child
doesn’t have the political skills or the experience to navigate such a
potentially-perilous situation, for not only is he unfit to lead the
nation, but he is also an unworthy successor to his predecessors as
Leader of the Liberal Party who, for all of their many faults, were at
least men of accomplishment and substance.

If you believe in individual merit – if you believe that we should
have a country where accomplishments matter more than your name – than
join me in rejecting this haughty and arrogant child who would presume
to rule over us all.

 

[Snowdin]

No the little puke couldn't lead a duck to water but he is a puppet in Canadian politics who can change the course of history. All he has to do to make his puppeteer Liberal crony's rich beyond belief is for example: Shut down any progress towards an Energy East pipeline. I'm betting his puppeteers own oil train cars and oil tanker ships.

 

[woody_tobius_jr]

Anybody going to the airport to wave to our illustrious federal leader? Heard he's in edmonton tonight...too bad somebody can't knock some sense into the peckerwood.


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[Cdnfireman]

Anybody going to the airport to wave to our illustrious federal leader? Heard he's in edmonton tonight...too bad somebody can't knock some sense into the peckerwood.


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With an 81mm mortar!!

 

[fargineyesore]

Im a bit confused here, Norway is a country, Alberta is a province, if comparing shouldnt the the talk be that CANADA should have a Trillion plus surplus?

What are you saying, that resource wealth generated in Alberta belongs to the entire country? Does the same apply to BC's timber, fish, mining? Do Albertans own those resources in BC?

 

[Bnorth]

What are you saying, that resource wealth generated in Alberta belongs to the entire country? Does the same apply to BC's timber, fish, mining? Do Albertans own those resources in BC?

Actually yes, BC contributes taxes federally (does not receive equalization) so the benefits of those resources are being realized by the entire country.

 

[Summitric]

Provincial CHT cash entitlements, millions of dollars
2013-2014
2014-2015
% Change
NL
489.7
489.7
0.0%
PEI
128.0
131.2
2.5%
NS
829.9
846.8
2.0%
NB
666.6
682.4
2.4%
QC
7183.8
7426.7
3.4%
ON
11925.1
12334.9
3.4%
MB
1114.4
1156.3
3.8%
SK
976.6
1019.3
4.4%
AL
2722.9
3750.9
37.8%
BC
4154.4
4169.5
0.4%
YT
31.0
33.4
7.7%
NT
27.0
39.2
45.2%
NU
33.7
33.7
0.0%
Canada
30283.1
32114.0
6.0%
Sources: Finance Canada, PBO calculations.

 

[fargineyesore]

Actually yes, BC contributes taxes federally (does not receive equalization) so the benefits of those resources are being realized by the entire country.

I think we may be in agreement here and not realize it. Both provinces are net contributors to the equalization scheme. I may have misunderstood the point that Stompin Tom was making.

 

[Chump]

Didn't you hear??? All are problems are over. There going to increase eligible time on EI and decrease the amount of hours needed to qualify.... typical ndp mentality, all this is going to do is breed laziness. Why not give tax credits to company's and give them some incentive to hire.

 

[smokinD]

Didn't you hear??? All are problems are over. There going to increase eligible time on EI and decrease the amount of hours needed to qualify.... typical ndp mentality, all this is going to do is breed laziness. Why not give tax credits to company's and give them some incentive to hire.

Not In The Socialist Agenda!!

 

[Mike270412]

And Truedumb is in Alberta promising all kinds of federal money. Where the fawk does he think money comes from?

 

[Summitric]

Too bad dumb and dumber don't read this thread... U guys collectively have solved Alberta and Canada and some of the worlds problems


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[Stompin Tom]

What are you saying, that resource wealth generated in Alberta belongs to the entire country? Does the same apply to BC's timber, fish, mining? Do Albertans own those resources in BC?

What I am saying is your comparing a country to a province. We are CANADIANS first and foremost. Check your passport if your don't believe me.

 

[Summitric]

Hahaha, we sure don't own quebecs maple syrup


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[rzrgade]

Told you a while back .... Obama 2.0....he will. Not commit to a pipeline ...
just like our buddy down south . That way he can stop it with out actually having to have the balls to say he is against it!
Seen this coming months ago.... He is out bury Alberta... For Fawkes sake we don't need EI... We need jobs back.....!!!!!

 

[Bigblack]

Told you a while back .... Obama 2.0....he will. Not commit to a pipeline ...
just like our buddy down south . That way he can stop it with out actually having to have the balls to say he is against it!
Seen this coming months ago.... He is out bury Alberta... For Fawkes sake we don't need EI... We need jobs back.....!!!!!

But the Libs and NDPees know what happens when you extend gov't benefits....you get more lefty VOTERS.

 

[Puba]

But the Libs and NDPees know what happens when you extend gov't benefits....you get more lefty VOTERS.

Yes, net takers not net contributer's.

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