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$15,500 isn't cheap but if you had snowchecked a 2010 163 you would have paid around $14,000...sure everyone is picking them up now for around $11,000 - 11,500 but the season is 1/2 over. There are alot of upgrades on these new sleds and I'm sure if you wait till this time next year you will be able to pick one up @ a more reasonable price as all the manufactures start discounting so they can get rid of there stock before summer. Check out the other brands...they aren't that much cheaper. You can buy a 2011 Cat and pay close to 15,000 and still be driving last decades technology...Just my 2 cents.
 

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Oh - don't get me wrong. I am buying one. The narrower ski stance on the Summit has me sold.. Will be a sidehilling fool.

I am just worried about the bodily injury my wife will inflict when it comes to make the payment next fall:d
 

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Haha...I hear you there...I have a 2010 and said I would keep this one for 2 yrs but the more I look @ the new ones the more I'm thinking there will be another 2010 for sale next fall. lol.
 

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I was just looking at the weights of the sleds.
Freeride E-Tec 800- 489lbs
Summit X E-Tech 800- 453lbs
Summit Everest P.TEK- 449lbs

I guess all that reenforcement comes at a price:confused:
 

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Hey Steel Town, from what i can see yeah there's old tech put to an old 800r motor in that crappy power robbing e-tech. They added 36lbs of weight to your cornice dropper!...at least cat didn't do that..lol, are you blind or just that stupid, ohhh and lets not forget the wraps....that makes it even more aerodynamic right? is that where doo's technology is goin? I didn't know BRP's head engineer's where olympic athletes...hahaha.

So before you go harpin on me check your facts and think about what your saying.
 

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Oh - don't get me wrong. I am buying one. The narrower ski stance on the Summit has me sold.. Will be a sidehilling fool.

I am just worried about the bodily injury my wife will inflict when it comes to make the payment next fall:d

i hear ya hear bro!!! hahahaha!!!!
my wife rarely check the bills, so i would be ok
and she doesnt check the business account EVER....hmmmm.........:d

nah......it would cost me a divorce i am sure!! hahaha!!!!
 

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lol very funny steel :), I will say that even I love selling non current sleds becasue I get them for cheaper and so do my customers, and then they can set them up for their riding style with the $ they save, but that Freeride has like $ 2000 in suspension alone over an everest, she's pricey but I think they will sell. It's kinda like motocross bikes now with that sled, you could spend $ on moding the crap out of it but now you dont have to, she comes with killer shocks(front and rear) and nice bars, wider floorboards, cool skiis beefed up skid and mxzx chassis mods etc, all that stuff plus the labour to install it cost lots, and now you can buy it off the floor. For guys who dont ride much( 500km a year) it will not matter, but for a guy who rides over 1000 miles a year, I cant wait for that beefed up chassis so I can go big without haivng to worry about snapping my sled in two. Congrats on having another baby man, thats great. See you in the hills.

hahah!
yeah i dont doubt for one second this sled will RIP,,,it flat out will
and they listened to us and built the sled we've been trying to build for years

i just cant justify the price tag, but also dont expect to get things free (make sense??!! haha)

anyways.....

hey I always said id buy from you if i bought new...and i would drive 6 hours to do it (also why I never bought from Pines...close but crappy dealer)

im gonna keep dreaming and try to cash in on someone's chitty luck (bought sled, can't afford and sells to me w 300kms on it for $10,000 & 2 years warranty :d) )
then figure out how to tell my accountant it was "customer appreciation" :cool: ...or "office supplies"
 

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They added 36lbs of weight to your cornice dropper!
At least Doo can publish a weight for their sleds took me about 10 mins of searching to find out the Cat is 22lbs heavier than the Summit X E-tech!

power robbing e-tech
The power robbing E-tech is the way of the future as emission laws get more and more strict. Anyone who says that they can't do away with conventional two stroke engines just needs to look at the Dirt Bike industry where 4 strokes have taken over. It's hard to sell a product that can't be ridden on public lands!
 

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Hey Steel Town, from what i can see yeah there's old tech put to an old 800r motor in that crappy power robbing e-tech. They added 36lbs of weight to your cornice dropper!...at least cat didn't do that..lol, are you blind or just that stupid, ohhh and lets not forget the wraps....that makes it even more aerodynamic right? is that where doo's technology is goin? I didn't know BRP's head engineer's where olympic athletes...hahaha.

So before you go harpin on me check your facts and think about what your saying.

Cat is still heavier....bwahahahahaha.....oh and from my experience.....most of the shitty riders own turbos....bwahahahaha....they need it...bwahahahaha
 

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who said anything about emmissions? clearly this isnt the case. cat and polaris have been using there emmisions system for the past 5 years. the etec was called on by the trail bangers out east which is the largest part of the market. and in typical brp style it was extended to a mountain version.

etec is great technology but way ahead of emmisions standards.

if etec wasnt realeased this season it would not be the end of brp...sorry to burst your bubbles.
 

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4 stroke Dirt-bikes have taken over because of the broad powerband and massive low-end tourqe thats obtainable in a bike only 10 lbs heavier than a 2stroke...not because of "emissions laws" on closed-course or off-highway recreational vehicles. BRP always had the lightest mountain sled..not denying that at all, all i was doing was exploiting some facts that some of you were missing out on like the weight of the freeride. I don't hate doo's and i used to ride them for years and if some things were diff id still be riding one today.

I was just dumbfounded at the fact that such a fine piece of machinary-and it is could weigh almost 40lbs heavier...that is huge. Alot of people on this thread are so caught up on the bling of this sled and don't realize that at 7000ft weight is everything...didn't mean to sound like im bashing a brand.
 

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Hey Steel Town, from what i can see yeah there's old tech put to an old 800r motor in that crappy power robbing e-tech. They added 36lbs of weight to your cornice dropper!...at least cat didn't do that..lol, are you blind or just that stupid, ohhh and lets not forget the wraps....that makes it even more aerodynamic right? is that where doo's technology is goin? I didn't know BRP's head engineer's where olympic athletes...hahaha.

So before you go harpin on me check your facts and think about what your saying.

if you ask anybody who has ridden an 800 etec they rip.( I'm guessing you have not, nor do you know anybody who has tried the new engine), they make more power, get better mileage and use less oil, what can be wrong with that ? Who are you calling stupid ?.....

As for the more weight, it's beefed up, it uses a snowcross chassis that is designed to go big and take non stop abuse, and has way more advanced shocks. ? You have to give some(weight) to get some(durability) duh ????

I'm not from the generation of sledder(s) who will spend thousands to save a couple of pounds, I ride 1000 miles a year( in pow, in the mountians, I live 3 hours from it and go every weekend, live in Calgary and do not make Frot Mcmurray $ dude, and I cant afford $25 000 turbo sled.
It's 90 % rider and 10 % sled, the extra 30 pounds will not matter much, It will however allow me to attack the mountian with confidence and allow me to hammer through bumps to clear a gap or carry speed through whoops to get to the top of a climb.
I'm stoked that they are offering a stock sled with an nice piggyback style shock(s) with external adjustable clickers, that is internally revalvable(that way I can stiffen it up for the bumps, jumps and drops and soften it up for climbing and pow(to get an aftermarket set shocks like that would cost close to $ 2500 ). I just dont go stait up and back down the hill and highmark, I ride everywhere, hills, tree's, love to jump and drop. My riding infuence comes form racing motocross for 25 years and snowboading 100 days a year for 7 years.
THIS SLED IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT AND LOTS OF US WHO "FREERIDE" WILL BENIFIT FORM BRP BRINGIN IT OUT

For me this new sled is a turn key, true expert level rider sled, which needs only minor mods in order to stand up to a serious pounding.
I will beat mine like a red headed stepchild all season, and the next and the next.
I did not mean to harp on you, just took offence to you bashing my brand.... and the sled I will be riding next year
 

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4 stroke Dirt-bikes have taken over because of the broad powerband and massive low-end tourqe thats obtainable in a bike only 10 lbs heavier than a 2stroke...not because of "emissions laws" on closed-course or off-highway recreational vehicles. BRP always had the lightest mountain sled..not denying that at all, all i was doing was exploiting some facts that some of you were missing out on like the weight of the freeride. I don't hate doo's and i used to ride them for years and if some things were diff id still be riding one today.

I was just dumbfounded at the fact that such a fine piece of machinary-and it is could weigh almost 40lbs heavier...that is huge. Alot of people on this thread are so caught up on the bling of this sled and don't realize that at 7000ft weight is everything...didn't mean to sound like im bashing a brand.
You are even more wrong there, Four strokes make shitty riders fast, and double your repair bills, I've bown up 2 yz 250fs and it costs 3 grand to fix it.
The only reason the four stokes have taken over motocross is politics and a bullch!t rule allowing a bike(fourstroke) of double displacement to compete with a two stroke of half the displacement. That rule makes no sense and has no actual technical merrit, I'll race my 04 kx 125 vs at ttr 125 any time, 28 hp(kx 125 two stroke) vs 10 hp (ttr 125 four stroke) and I will love racing my yz 250 all season and spending 150 buck on a new set of rings and a piston, where as my little thumper I have to adjust the valves(I'm too stupid to di it myself) every 30 hours and replace the valves/springs/guides every 3 adjustment. I Love premix, and also for offroad racing two strokes still rule.
 

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Oh - don't get me wrong. I am buying one. The narrower ski stance on the Summit has me sold.. Will be a sidehilling fool.

I am just worried about the bodily injury my wife will inflict when it comes to make the payment next fall:d

Looks like i'm already going to have some options to buy a new/ used XP next year if i can grow my slushy fund. Who else is looking to dump there old XP to get into this SPECTACULAR new FREERIDE.:d "Patience is a virtue" Quoted from some dude i can't remember.
 

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4 stroke Dirt-bikes have taken over because of the broad powerband and massive low-end tourqe thats obtainable in a bike only 10 lbs heavier than a 2stroke...not because of "emissions laws" on closed-course or off-highway recreational vehicles.

Where do you think the $$ came from to develop that kind of technology to make the 4 Strokes that light, make similar to two stroke power and still be reliable. (A 1996 XR400 put out 32HP compared with 40HP in the 1996 CR250) You should do some research into the California Air Resources Board 1995 ruling that stated that any 1995 or newer OHV operated on public lands could no longer be a two-stroke. This ruling lead to the immediate demise of the CR500 and KX500 and the R&D bucks dumped into projects like the YZF400 which would later become the YZF426 and subsequently the YZF450 of today.

In my opinion the death of the two stroke is coming. Do a Google search on "Snowmobile Emissions" and read the propaganda (IMO) put out there by the tree hugging nation south of the border. There's even EHS studies trying to characterize the long term health effects of Rangers in National Parks exposed to Two Stroke Exhaust. The E-Tech is going to help slow that.
 

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Boy, sure am glad Snowest went pay so all this brand bashing crap is here now. How much for an annual subscription???
 

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Boy, sure am glad Snowest went pay so all this brand bashing crap is here now. How much for an annual subscription???

And I cant join in since I have a Doo and a couple Cats...

What the heck am I supposed to bash now?? I guess I could say something crappy about the new Polaris...Nope, I like that one too...

I just cant win...:d
 

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And I cant join in since I have a Doo and a couple Cats...

What the heck am I supposed to bash now?? I guess I could say something crappy about the new Polaris...Nope, I like that one too...

I just cant win...:d

LOL - I own one of each too!!!!

With all do respect to the new 800 E-Tech Doo - Alpine Motorsports has a low boost Yammy Nytro for $22,200 out of the crate. For $15 G's the new E-tech better be worth it because at that price the other brands or a 4 stroke are looking really good. Doo's quality comparatively is lower than some others so I hope BRP has their ducks in a row with this sled to charge a price like that. For $15 LARGE it better not smoke a single belt and the hand warmers better work all season. And yeah - any upgrades to a "non-sagging" suspension or track should be on the sled already for that price.

In two years you'll be able to buy a 1200 Turbo'd Doo 4 stroker for that kind of coin - and you won't ever have to touch the thing.

Just sayin'........
 

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Anyways boys we can state our points and argue about every technical thing each brand has to offer but it ruins these forums....like i said before as long as we're all riding and nobody experiences an avy its all good man. I apologize to anyone who took any comments of mine as "bashing"....that's not my intention. I hope this new doo is all its supposed to be as well.


Come on with the 1200 summit...ill be waiting in line for one of those...
 

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My guess is if there was going to be a 1200 in the future for BRP mountain sleds, its going to go in a "Freeride" type sled with the beefed up chassis. Good way to get the feelers out there and test the chassis and sales then give the option of a 1200 a year down the road in a by then proven chassis.

I think many people believe the Freeride is a replacement for the Summit, but the Summit is still the mountain sled for mountain riders. Not many people thought a Backcountry Renegade would do well but for the guys who ride a little of both the sled works. The Freeride is the wide stance, heavy duty hill climber, jumping powder eater thats going to get the job done for the guys who ride that way.

Guys who still love the powder and boondockin still have the cheaper, lighter Summit and now we can get it with injection! Not to bad.

I will still take a Doo over what I have seen from other sled companies.
 
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