wildcat 700 trail vs wildcat 700 sport

[mudmania]

Is the 50" trail a good machine? is it a little on the tippy side. Would a sport be a better choice for all over ride and seat room. How does the wildcat compare to a yami wolverine?

 

[Steve D]

Cockpit on sport and trail are identical. (Edit: Doors might be different and afford more knee room, but I'm not sure) Trail isn't too bad too drive, but I think I'd get the sport next time for the stability but mostly the ground clearance and extra bit of suspension travel.

It's only wide-open rallying down a road where the stability is noticeably off-putting and honestly I'd expect a short wheel base sport to not be a lot better there too.

 

[j335]

I've had my trail for 3 years and prefer it for my kind of riding over the sport. With the trail I can stick to quad trails. You really gotta ask yourself what kind of riding you will do with the machine.

-Wide open riding go with the stability = Sport
-If you like doing donuts = Sport
-Bush riding = Trail

Never even compared to a Wolverine, but the 700 Cat twin (Kymco) is noticeably more powerful then a single Yamaha 700 (I have a grizzly in my garage). I would go to your dealer and at least ask to test ride their machine, even if it's in the parking lot.
I read tons of reviews on the cat 700 in spring 2014 then went to a dealer and asked to test drive it in their parking lot. After 2 mins I knew this little buggy was legit and bought it on the spot.
The bushings suck on this machine so buy an aftermarket set and prepare to change them within 500km's, which is a pain...

 

[rzrgade]

I would recommend the wider sport version for a variety of reasons .
It will be much more stable .
It has much more ground clearance .
It will have much more articulation .
The axle / CV angle will be much better .In terms of width , the few inchs won't make much difference , especially once you add offset wheels to a regular trail. That will put them in the 54/55" area anyways , while not increasing travel, or ground clearance , as well as negatively effecting steering & suspension geometry .
A 60 inch trail machine is pretty well ideal on tight trails , as you have a lot more stability on off camber trail situations ...
Remember most quads now are about 53 " wide anyways ( with rims / tires)
I would also add the sport is probably the best bang for the buck in a sporty ( mild) SXS right now ....
Great machine , indeed !


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[TROLLCAT]

I'm thinkin about getting one

 

[j335]

Sports have amazing rebates right now as mentioned!
I disagree on the 60" in tight trails, the Sport I've rode with could not follow quad trails while in my trail I was fine. Again comes down to where you ride, Sport would not work for me right now.
Remember most people regret buying a 50" over a 60" rather than vide versa...

 

[arff]

As mentioned both machines are great. I have tried both.

Depending on your area and trail width.

No narrow trails in our area so wider is ok.

Good suspension travel helps in the ruts and holes.

Also a comfortable ride and you can go 10 or 12 hours and not be sore or tired.

 

[mudmania]

Ok. I test drove both the trail and sport and I just can't fit in either of them. The wildcat 1000 fits me alright. How are the 2015 1000's for durability and mudding

 

[j335]

Good thing you test drove them! I'm 6'1" with longer then averages legs and fit it better then I though but if wearing big boots it sucks.
Decent reviews for the 1000's but they are underpowered and good luck on resale as there seems to be a ton on kijiji all the time.
1000 is quite different design then the 700's though, whole drivetrain is different.

 

[the_real_wild1]

Underpowered? Lmao. Anyways, There are things that have to be done to a 1000 wildcat to make it more trail proof. Most are cheap and easy. The biggest thing is the power steering. I have mine working great now but it cost me almost $1000 to get it like that and IMO it is required, but can be done in two stages as the steering gets tougher. If you are very serious about getting a 1000 let me know and I can go over what I have done to mine and costs. Even with the upgrades I have done I am still way cheaper then a rzr 1000 and a can am 1000, unless you get a smoking deal on them.

 

[arff]

They are not underpowered

Do amazing on mud trails

Locking front diff

 

[j335]

Oops didn't mean to come across wrong, but they are underpowered in terms of 1000's... They still have lots of power, just down when compared to the rzr and mav.
I agree they give them away via smoking deals and now that all manufactures have new higher HP models outgoing non-turbo models are discounted nicely.

I will warn you again the 1000 cats have terrible resale and will even get worse with the XX model. If you plan to keep it for a long time then no biggy.

 

[arff]

Oops didn't mean to come across wrong, but they are underpowered in terms of 1000's... They still have lots of power, just down when compared to the rzr and mav.
I agree they give them away via smoking deals and now that all manufactures have new higher HP models outgoing non-turbo models are discounted nicely.

I will warn you again the 1000 cats have terrible resale and will even get worse with the XX model. If you plan to keep it for a long time then no buggy.

The 700 series will be ok.

Yes this fall when the xx comes out the older ones will be worth less.

Best to always trade and not keep them long.

 

[mudmania]

So why do they have such a terrible resale? Are they plagued with mechanical issues?

 

[rzrgade]

The resale on the 700 s should be reasonable in light of the fact they are turning out to be a very good reliable machine.
Possibly , they just need more out there for word of mouth to spread more.
The 1000 cat pre 2013.5 were plagued with various serious issues ... lots of them ! This hurt the name artic cat & wildcat , big time ..
In reality they have ( post 2013.5 ) less issues than the newer rzr s , and are a solid machine , but do need a few setup changes after purchase to fix a few concerns . The length may hurt sales a little as they were first with the longer chassis and a little long in tighter trails ....however if you buy them right ( cheaper) the resale value is not a big deal .They are a very capable machine and in the tough going , I would rate them slightly better than my Mav or a comparable rzr . Mainly because of the true locking front diff & and more articulation. Quality I would put the Mav a fair bit ahead of the rzr & cat .
I had a 2013.5 wildcat and a lot of things about it I liked , some things not ...
I will say if you buy it right , they are a great machine , especially the newer ones ... as they have worked out a few kinks along the way .


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[mudmania]

Well, I'm down to two side by sides. 2014 WildcatX 1000 with 800 kms in good shape with lots of goodies, and a 2016 yami Wolverine r-spec demo with 450km in new shape with winch. What do you guys think?

 

[arff]

Wildcat

 

[mudmania]

Is mountain toys in Cochrane a reputable dealership?

 

[TylerG]

Is mountain toys in Cochrane a reputable dealership?

I've heard lots of good stories about them yes.

 

[rightsideup]

I would recommend the wider sport version for a variety of reasons .
It will be much more stable .
It has much more ground clearance .
It will have much more articulation .
The axle / CV angle will be much better .In terms of width , the few inchs won't make much difference , especially once you add offset wheels to a regular trail. That will put them in the 54/55" area anyways , while not increasing travel, or ground clearance , as well as negatively effecting steering & suspension geometry .
A 60 inch trail machine is pretty well ideal on tight trails , as you have a lot more stability on off camber trail situations ...
Remember most quads now are about 53 " wide anyways ( with rims / tires)
I would also add the sport is probably the best bang for the buck in a sporty ( mild) SXS right now ....
Great machine , indeed !


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the cat 700 s are overachievers in the power department that is with out a doubt but have had carry overs prior to the economy faltering. You get what you pay for it comes with very poor tires and has poor brakes. If you can find one for a good deal go to the 900 poo. They can be had with 50,55 and 60 inch widths have more power and better standard equipment. Try Motion motorsports for good all around deal and advise.