Wild Fire 2024

[freeflorider]

Pine or fir beetle kills are a huge issue. Fire kills faster then the bug so salvage is required quicker. With the beetles it could take years to see. you can find where the fir beetles are boring into trees, the pine dose the same. from there it shifts from red attack to gray. Once the tree stops living it dries out and checks. No more moisture and the bark falls off and spiraling checks are produced so no good for lumber.
Big dead fir sure make great building logs or fire wood though.
And yes burnt wood sucks to log.

 

[ferniesnow]

And yes burnt wood sucks to log.

They also suck to gather for firewood. Very dirty cutting, splitting, stacking, getting to the stove, etc.. Even with the bark peeled off they are messy.

 

[pano-dude]

After the beetle kills the tree it becomes known as “dead standing timber”. If harvested within 5 years these trees can still be used for wood products and sequester their carbon storage. If not harvested these trees are left to fall over and decay, resulting in millions of board feet of kindling in our forests


What google says.. so it is still usable if harvested right away

There has been some really nice products made from pine beetle kill lumber, the bugs secrete some chemical that's turn the wood a nice blue color inside.

 

[ferniesnow]

There has been some really nice products made from pine beetle kill lumber, the bugs secrete some chemical that's turn the wood a nice blue color inside.

This is true. There was big hype from the BC government about 5 years ago. Seems pretty quiet now though.

 

[Bnorth]

This is true. There was big hype from the BC government about 5 years ago. Seems pretty quiet now though.

Almost no bug kill pine being logged anymore. The spaghetti mills are back to spruce and DFir.

 

[Cableguy]

why not log it for the kogen {spelling} generators

 

[S.W.A.T.]

why not log it for the kogen {spelling} generators

They do, and pellets

 

[smokinD]

Pine or fir beetle kills are a huge issue. Fire kills faster then the bug so salvage is required quicker. With the beetles it could take years to see. you can find where the fir beetles are boring into trees, the pine dose the same. from there it shifts from red attack to gray. Once the tree stops living it dries out and checks. No more moisture and the bark falls off and spiraling checks are produced so no good for lumber.
Big dead fir sure make great building logs or fire wood though.
And yes burnt wood sucks to log.

Nice education reply, for those that don't understand Timber. Sure wish they taught this in school for the up/coming gen.

 

[Cableguy]

They do, and pellets

well they need to do more of it then
I think williams lake has a huge gen system there

 

[S.W.A.T.]

well they need to do more of it then
I think williams lake has a huge gen system there

Many communities with sawmills do in BC, however just like everything else it comes with red tape and opposition

 

[LUCKY 7]

Pine or fir beetle kills are a huge issue. Fire kills faster then the bug so salvage is required quicker. With the beetles it could take years to see. you can find where the fir beetles are boring into trees, the pine dose the same. from there it shifts from red attack to gray. Once the tree stops living it dries out and checks. No more moisture and the bark falls off and spiraling checks are produced so no good for lumber.
Big dead fir sure make great building logs or fire wood though.
And yes burnt wood sucks to log.

Every time I go in the bush I see more and more fir beetle evidence. Lots around the koocanusa area,.

 

[Bnorth]

why not log it for the kogen {spelling} generators

usually not economically feasible to log pure pellet/biomass stands. Need some sawlog in there to absorb the costs of logging, hauling and stumpage. The cogen guys have started using portable grinders to go out to the bush and grind the waste piles and ship back to town in chip trucks but it's a drop in the bucket compared to how much waste is generated logging and still burnt in piles. The cogen/biomass guys are very cost conscious and can't afford to go too far into the bush they are usually grinding blocks that are close to highways.

 

[Cableguy]

if the gov is gonna subsidize things i would think this bio fuel would be a good place to help reduce fire zones of bug kill

 

[Mike270412]

if the gov is gonna subsidize things i would think this bio fuel would be a good place to help reduce fire zones of bug kill

I don't think the government should subsidize anything.

 

[sirkdev]

government doesn't fund anything.. tax payers do. Governments are about the worst run business going accountable to no one.

 

[lilduke]

Government is nothing more than a criminal gang that extorts you for being in thier territory.

 

[Bnorth]

if the gov is gonna subsidize things i would think this bio fuel would be a good place to help reduce fire zones of bug kill

It's been/is being heavily subsidized already. First it was about 15-20 years ago through BC Hydro contracts that bought power at lucrative rates from mills that built cogen facilities. Now it is through FESBC that provides funding for these cogen owners to top up the rates they can pay forest licensees for biomass wood so that is hauled to these facilities instead of burned in piles in the bush.