Which Mountain sled should I buy?!

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I don't really like how the doo makes you stand basically on top of the skis I kinda like being more at the back. is that supposed to give you more leverage to chuck it over? or do some people just prefer that style?

its the correct placement for your body in mountain riding. as "cimbing" is a major part of mountain riding having your body weight as far forward as possibly is an asset. the other reason is that with mountain sleds being so long it is easy to pivot the rear end around being as your body is the pivot point for the heaviest part of the sled. rather than having a large mass far ahead of you and trying to pull it around. it may feel strange for a few rides but once your comfortable on it you will like it and understand why it works.

And what are your guys' thoughts on track lengths I am a small guy so would it benefit me to get the long track and maybe not get stuck as much or to get the shorter track and have more maneuverability. does it make a major difference between the two?

me and the guys i ride with arent big guys either. we all went 163 after having ALL of the lengths right from 121-174. i just find it to be the best all around track length. it allows you to move slowly through the trees, get stuck less, and put you a little higher up the hill. we figured 80% of our days are DEEP and the 163 has the best floatation. less stucks and more enjoyment. if i was riding around in the flatlands alot i would consider the 154. i still beleive the 154 is more for the guys that like to jump drop and whip the sled around. other than that the 163 gets you through the deep stuff.

as far as your decision on the skidoo vs the arctic cat....they are both good sleds but the skidoo has some obvious advantages. it may seem more expensive up front. which it is. but you get what you pay for,

#1- the fit and finish of the skidoo snowmobile is the best in the industry. put them side by side and you will quickly see why. the way the panels go together right down to the way they install every nut and bolt. fire them up, the arctic cat will leave your hands shaking for days, while the skidoo is fairly smooth at idle.

#2- the floatation and traction that comes on the skidoo with the 16" wide track. it just works. better. basic math. a 15" wide snowmbile will leave you trenching and the time you have to recover from your slow movements in deep snow is far less than the 16" wide sleds. they also do not hop up on the snow nice either. last year skidoo figured out how to make a 16" wide track handle like a 15" wide track and even better with the t motion flex track combo. the sleds may be similar wet weights but the XM "feels" lighter. alot of people even say it feels lighter than the pro rmk which is clearly lighter #s wise.

#3- the efficiency of the etec engine cant be beat. at least it hasnt yet! oil comsumption, smoke, fuel consumption. its amazing. if your hard on the throttle all day in the deep stuff it still does use good amounts of fuel but nothing like that cat PIG. we can fire up 4 etecs in our enclosed trailer and hang out for a bit, as soon as we fire up the m8 everyone is looking for a exit. they are dirty, unefficient machines.

#4- clutching. the TRA clutch system in the mountains is a cool feature. being able to adjust your peak rrpm on the fly with the clickers is extremely important to keep a sled running at peak performance. snow conditions and temperature can change all day so being able to compensate for that on the fly is an overlooked aspect. no one wants to be wrenching on the hill...sure you can change weights pretty quick on the hill ive been told. but who cares. you dont have to with the TRA LOL....click...click...click..done.

#5 - the etec has shown to be a very reliable engine. while the cat engine is also very reliable its not backed up by arctic cat like the etec motor is ( 4 year warranty )


either way both great sleds but the etec summit is the Cadillac of the mountains and your going to pay a bit extra for it. but like i said earlier you get what you pay for...

enjoy your new ride, let us know what you pick up/
 

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U buy what u want/like... I ride Yamaha Turbo's and luvem!! But I tell u this rode my buds XM last winter .. And all I can say is wow!!! It was one of the best sitting standing sleds I have rode to date.. Within minutes of ripping around I was climbing thru trees without an issue... Well it also had an Areocharger on it.. That ran flawless!! But my point is the XM is pretty darn cool...
 

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Lock the thread....maxwell has spoken...nothing left to learn here....
 

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its the correct placement for your body in mountain riding. as "cimbing" is a major part of mountain riding having your body weight as far forward as possibly is an asset. the other reason is that with mountain sleds being so long it is easy to pivot the rear end around being as your body is the pivot point for the heaviest part of the sled. rather than having a large mass far ahead of you and trying to pull it around. it may feel strange for a few rides but once your comfortable on it you will like it and understand why it works.



me and the guys i ride with arent big guys either. we all went 163 after having ALL of the lengths right from 121-174. i just find it to be the best all around track length. it allows you to move slowly through the trees, get stuck less, and put you a little higher up the hill. we figured 80% of our days are DEEP and the 163 has the best floatation. less stucks and more enjoyment. if i was riding around in the flatlands alot i would consider the 154. i still beleive the 154 is more for the guys that like to jump drop and whip the sled around. other than that the 163 gets you through the deep stuff.

as far as your decision on the skidoo vs the arctic cat....they are both good sleds but the skidoo has some obvious advantages. it may seem more expensive up front. which it is. but you get what you pay for,

#1- the fit and finish of the skidoo snowmobile is the best in the industry. put them side by side and you will quickly see why. the way the panels go together right down to the way they install every nut and bolt. fire them up, the arctic cat will leave your hands shaking for days, while the skidoo is fairly smooth at idle.

#2- the floatation and traction that comes on the skidoo with the 16" wide track. it just works. better. basic math. a 15" wide snowmbile will leave you trenching and the time you have to recover from your slow movements in deep snow is far less than the 16" wide sleds. they also do not hop up on the snow nice either. last year skidoo figured out how to make a 16" wide track handle like a 15" wide track and even better with the t motion flex track combo. the sleds may be similar wet weights but the XM "feels" lighter. alot of people even say it feels lighter than the pro rmk which is clearly lighter #s wise.

#3- the efficiency of the etec engine cant be beat. at least it hasnt yet! oil comsumption, smoke, fuel consumption. its amazing. if your hard on the throttle all day in the deep stuff it still does use good amounts of fuel but nothing like that cat PIG. we can fire up 4 etecs in our enclosed trailer and hang out for a bit, as soon as we fire up the m8 everyone is looking for a exit. they are dirty, unefficient machines.

#4- clutching. the TRA clutch system in the mountains is a cool feature. being able to adjust your peak rrpm on the fly with the clickers is extremely important to keep a sled running at peak performance. snow conditions and temperature can change all day so being able to compensate for that on the fly is an overlooked aspect. no one wants to be wrenching on the hill...sure you can change weights pretty quick on the hill ive been told. but who cares. you dont have to with the TRA LOL....click...click...click..done.

#5 - the etec has shown to be a very reliable engine. while the cat engine is also very reliable its not backed up by arctic cat like the etec motor is ( 4 year warranty )


either way both great sleds but the etec summit is the Cadillac of the mountains and your going to pay a bit extra for it. but like i said earlier you get what you pay for...

enjoy your new ride, let us know what you pick up/

Yup x2!


Sent while sitting on the toilet when I should be working!
 

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I started riding the mountains last year with a few guys. After a couple trips and a few scary rides and digging out the sleds all day long, a few of the guys are not coming back. Not their cup of tea, so to speak. Everyone bought new sleds and now they are trying to sell them to other friends that want to try it. My advice, try all the sleds out by renting them for a weekend. Next season, if you still want to ride in the mountains, you will know exactly what you want, does not matter brand or opinions. It will be what your experiences were to buy your sled. P.S. The most important thing you can do is take the AST course and get an avy pack. Respect the mountain and the trails and listen to the your riding buddies that have experience. It may save your life.
 

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XM all the way. But you really cant go wrong with any of the three.
 

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thank you very much maxwell! that was very helpful!

anyone with experience of all 3 or multiple brands want to share some pros and cons with me please!?
 

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They are all good now, the dealer has a lot to do with the decision, you can buy a good product but if you have any issues and the dealer sucks it sure tarnishes the experience. Do some research, and have fun !!!
 

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I got a similar quote but when you add the extended warranty to the Polaris to match the 4 years doo has the price was within $200 so I stuck with the doo even though the Polaris had me looking hard.

i still need to drive one...... i see they have forward post kits now but man i guess i could have got a sweet deal in regina and i could have just opted for the all black sp and probably paid as much as my pro but hey i love my pro and 3 guys in my group had no issues with their 13s
 

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you don't need the weight to throw ur self around on the new ski doo's. First is t motion leans with you very easy to move. I have been to the mountains a couple times ski doo owns the mountain. Go with the free ride or summit. You would not regret it...
 

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#3- the efficiency of the etec engine cant be beat. at least it hasnt yet! oil comsumption, smoke, fuel consumption. its amazing. if your hard on the throttle all day in the deep stuff it still does use good amounts of fuel but nothing like that cat PIG. we can fire up 4 etecs in our enclosed trailer and hang out for a bit, as soon as we fire up the m8 everyone is looking for a exit. they are dirty, unefficient machines. -maxwell

sometimes a guy prefers a dirty unefficient pig while away for the weekend..... you make your sled sound like a prius
 

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#3- the efficiency of the etec engine cant be beat. at least it hasnt yet! oil comsumption, smoke, fuel consumption. its amazing. if your hard on the throttle all day in the deep stuff it still does use good amounts of fuel but nothing like that cat PIG. we can fire up 4 etecs in our enclosed trailer and hang out for a bit, as soon as we fire up the m8 everyone is looking for a exit. they are dirty, unefficient machines. -maxwell

sometimes a guy prefers a dirty unefficient pig while away for the weekend..... you make your sled sound like a prius

There's something sexy about thick, blue 2 stroke smoke, though. Bogger knows.
 

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you guys might think this sounds stupid because all the pros you have listed about the doo. but it think I am going to go for the proclimb with the 162. the dealer support is just much greater and I believe it will be a great sled. now... limited or sno pro? what's the main differences other then the colour?
 

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you guys might think this sounds stupid because all the pros you have listed about the doo. but it think I am going to go for the proclimb with the 162. the dealer support is just much greater and I believe it will be a great sled. now... limited or sno pro? what's the main differences other then the colour?

its not stupid. I think I am going XM but thats what I prefer. its not like your choosing the ugly duckling, your making a hard choice between very good products and rightly considering dealer impact. One of my local doo dealers stinks and one is great. If not for the great one I might go elsewhere. Good luck
 

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contrary to what some may think..... Some folks really like the new cats

you guys might think this sounds stupid because all the pros you have listed about the doo. but it think I am going to go for the proclimb with the 162. the dealer support is just much greater and I believe it will be a great sled. now... limited or sno pro? what's the main differences other then the colour?
 

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Don't listen to what anyone says. But the Xm! Haha I'm only kidding. Anyways. My younger brother was a die hard Polaris boy. I rented a pro climb pro and Xm for him on his first trip to the mountains. As much as he hated to admit it, he prefers the XM now. Like mentioned above. Best to try them all out first.
 
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