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Please read this article....

https://www.jhnewsandguide.com/news...cle_f203d46c-6278-537a-98dc-9769a99adb56.html


Here is a quote from the head of the Search and Rescue Team...


Lockhart said making good decisions in the backcountry is always encouraged and Teton County Search and Rescue is in no way telling people to avoid the mountains.



“I think people getting into the mountains right now is a good way to protect [their] mental and physical sanity and strength,” he said. “There are some people who are not being supportive of people going in the backcountry. But people should be going out and protecting their mind, body and soul during this.

“Our stance is accidents happen and people make mistakes. But our job is to help those in need regardless of the circumstances without judgment and with compassion. We are more than willing to help.”
 
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Taking advise from an article that is in a country with a out of control virus spread, is a great idea.
 

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Taking advise from an article that is in a country with a out of control virus spread, is a great idea.

Hiding out in your room while the entire economy is being destroyed and taking your direction from a group of people who have been dramatically wrong in every aspect while watching the moral of your country isn’t really something that’s working out that well either. Managing anything , whether a household , a business or a country means more than locking the doors and telling people , basically , just wait , maybe till November or so , maybe more , meanwhile , just sit and trust us.
 

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Hiding out in your room while the entire economy is being destroyed and taking your direction from a group of people who have been dramatically wrong in every aspect while watching the moral of your country isn’t really something that’s working out that well either. Managing anything , whether a household , a business or a country means more than locking the doors and telling people , basically , just wait , maybe till November or so , maybe more , meanwhile , just sit and trust us.


I guess my question is ..................... are you more educated, understand the virus and problem better, and the person who's advice we should follow?

I am a small business person, one one of the things I have to do is determine who's advice to trust or not trust. When it comes to money I talk to my accountant, when it comes to my health I talk to my doctor, when it comes to equipment repairs I talk to my mechanic. So now we have a world wide pandemic. Who's advice do I trust? A few sledders pissed because they feel they should have the right to do as they please, or doctors and scientists who have experience in the field?

We all have to make choices. The difference is if you make the choice for your personal desires or for the good of your family and neighbors.

Frankly I find being asked to social distance for a couple of month to be a small price to pay to see where the long game goes.
 

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Hiding out in your room while the entire economy is being destroyed and taking your direction from a group of people who have been dramatically wrong in every aspect while watching the moral of your country isn’t really something that’s working out that well either. Managing anything , whether a household , a business or a country means more than locking the doors and telling people , basically , just wait , maybe till November or so , maybe more , meanwhile , just sit and trust us.


Wether people agree with me or not, they are entitled to their opinion.

Im not hiding, Im staying home on my days off to stay working, staying healthy and employed for my family is my priority, im very fortunate to have both at the moment.

Im not insubordinate person, how long would I employed if I broke my companies policies on covid-19, or any other policy?
Regardless if the people making the decisions are right or wrong, I cannot control what’s happening. Im not worrying about a situation that I have no control over.

So if people are rebelling, whats everyones plan to fight the government and get the economy moving than? Going to head to the states and rally to get the economy going?
There are lots of business owners on this site, whats the plan??? Is talking about conspiracy theories going to jump start the economy?
 

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that's what a free society is all about. freedom of speach and ideas.

shutting up and going along with the plan isn't always the best thing to do IMO

can't get anything changed without talking about it....

they already backed off on the ohv bans because so many people were pissed....
 

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I guess my question is ..................... are you more educated, understand the virus and problem better, and the person who's advice we should follow?

I am a small business person, one one of the things I have to do is determine who's advice to trust or not trust. When it comes to money I talk to my accountant, when it comes to my health I talk to my doctor, when it comes to equipment repairs I talk to my mechanic. So now we have a world wide pandemic. Who's advice do I trust? A few sledders pissed because they feel they should have the right to do as they please, or doctors and scientists who have experience in the field?

We all have to make choices. The difference is if you make the choice for your personal desires or for the good of your family and neighbors.

Frankly I find being asked to social distance for a couple of month to be a small price to pay to see where the long game goes.


Nice . A perfect example of rational thinking and debating. Cause that’s a reasonable explanation of the different groups of experienced , educated people who are questioning the validity of the measures being taken. You’re right , it’s your business , your decision, so act accordingLy. Personally , we are doing what we can to minimize the risk to,others and ourselves, , but if you are someone who has no doubts as to what you’re being told to do , or comfortable that all the information you’re receiving is factual and in the best interests of everyone , long term and short term , that’s great, carry on, I respect your decision. And if you believe every time someone questions information and directions from the government or politicians , that they are conspiracy theorists, I wish you luck but suggest you flick the wool out of your eyes.
 

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[h=1]Boswell Embalming Bottle House[/h][FONT=&quot]Sanca, British Columbia
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[h=3]This house was largely built out of hundreds of thousands of discarded glass embalming fluid bottles.[/h]
 

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Yes, stay in house

Let live stock parish

Watch world go mad and hungry

Watch human kind desolve

Good plan.

Please wake me up when things """Don't"" return to normal as normal can be...

Not mucho normal today... lol
 

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I remember going there as a child.
Boswell Embalming Bottle House

Sanca, British Columbia

This house was largely built out of hundreds of thousands of discarded glass embalming fluid bottles.
 

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Nice . A perfect example of rational thinking and debating. Cause that’s a reasonable explanation of the different groups of experienced , educated people who are questioning the validity of the measures being taken. You’re right , it’s your business , your decision, so act accordingLy. Personally , we are doing what we can to minimize the risk to,others and ourselves, , but if you are someone who has no doubts as to what you’re being told to do , or comfortable that all the information you’re receiving is factual and in the best interests of everyone , long term and short term , that’s great, carry on, I respect your decision. And if you believe every time someone questions information and directions from the government or politicians , that they are conspiracy theorists, I wish you luck but suggest you flick the wool out of your eyes.

"Frankly I find being asked to social distance for a couple of month to be a small price to pay to see where the long game goes."

That is the last line of my post, the summary of my thoughts. I have taken time to read and educate myself on many sides of the story. I take the advice I feel best about. The one thing that struck me, and I cant remember who said it, but the point that "if" social distancing and self quarantine works, it will always be criticized because we wont see the worst case scenario. If we dont see the worst case scenario then there is a victory for those who call for the current measures. But that is the kicker, if social distancing works, we only know because things dont get bad. But who makes the determination of what is bad?

I am more than content to give this another month, see how things progress. I much prefer to be part of the solution and part of the problem. By the middle of May its kind of my **** or get off the pot time. My reasoning is simple. I dont want to see that worst case scenario.

As Canadians we have been possibly one of the least hit nations. There appears to be a level of control compared to the rest of the modern world. Its pretty easy to sit back and say its all bunk when were not affected (health) in our day to day lives. My daughter lives in London England. They are scared ****less. They are seeing stuff we can only dream of, in our nightmares.
 

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I think you are out to lunch on most of your posts but this one makes sense.

Wether people agree with me or not, they are entitled to their opinion.

Im not hiding, Im staying home on my days off to stay working, staying healthy and employed for my family is my priority, im very fortunate to have both at the moment.

Im not insubordinate person, how long would I employed if I broke my companies policies on covid-19, or any other policy?
Regardless if the people making the decisions are right or wrong, I cannot control what’s happening. Im not worrying about a situation that I have no control over.

So if people are rebelling, whats everyones plan to fight the government and get the economy moving than? Going to head to the states and rally to get the economy going?
There are lots of business owners on this site, whats the plan??? Is talking about conspiracy theories going to jump start the economy?


Is this out to lunch to you? How about explaining, not sure where I’ve lost you in the past.
 

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Now there is a campfire ban in Fernie.

https://www.thefreepress.ca/news/city-of-fernie-implements-fire-ban/

Cause we all know that having a campfire in a Fire Department approved 'Annually Permitted' fire pit is a bad thing. Guess we are going to have to break out the propane fire pit early this year.

Anyone on this site in favor of banning back yard camp fire pits?
 

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I guess my question is ..................... are you more educated, understand the virus and problem better, and the person who's advice we should follow?

I am a small business person, one one of the things I have to do is determine who's advice to trust or not trust. When it comes to money I talk to my accountant, when it comes to my health I talk to my doctor, when it comes to equipment repairs I talk to my mechanic. So now we have a world wide pandemic. Who's advice do I trust? A few sledders pissed because they feel they should have the right to do as they please, or doctors and scientists who have experience in the field?

We all have to make choices. The difference is if you make the choice for your personal desires or for the good of your family and neighbors.

Frankly I find being asked to social distance for a couple of month to be a small price to pay to see where the long game goes.


Sound reasoning in your post ST.
There are drawbacks to how Alberta is dealing with COVID 19 for sure but less dead is less dead.
All data from what has happened in all countries is used for the outcome modeling.
Best case is 400-1200 deaths on present path.
Let COVID run free and it is 20,000-40,000 deaths for Alberta
This is from doctors and data analyst not the lying pricks in govt.
Once Pandora's Box is open there is NO GOING BACK.
This is based on what has happened to other counties - how we are expected to be special without special effort requires some off center reasoning.

I will never be an active member of the later choice and it amazes me how many people are openly in favor of helping to kill up to 39,000 more people for their own selfish beliefs.
Only allowed to stay behind locked doors - absolutely not - stupid comment by those that don't care and only want to justify their point of view.
But some of the Western World perks need to be put on hold until issues and cases dropped to open up again.
People have unfortunately proven they can not do this on their own.
Yes this screws the economy and personnel debt big time but it will come back.......but dead is dead........there is no recovery from that.
 
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Now there is a campfire ban in Fernie.

https://www.thefreepress.ca/news/city-of-fernie-implements-fire-ban/

Cause we all know that having a campfire in a Fire Department approved 'Annually Permitted' fire pit is a bad thing. Guess we are going to have to break out the propane fire pit early this year.

Anyone on this site in favor of banning back yard camp fire pits?

We get a lot of calls to backyard fire pits.

No screens, burning leaves and green branches.

Fire too big.
 

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Please read this article....

https://www.jhnewsandguide.com/news...cle_f203d46c-6278-537a-98dc-9769a99adb56.html


Here is a quote from the head of the Search and Rescue Team...


Lockhart said making good decisions in the backcountry is always encouraged and Teton County Search and Rescue is in no way telling people to avoid the mountains.



“I think people getting into the mountains right now is a good way to protect [their] mental and physical sanity and strength,” he said. “There are some people who are not being supportive of people going in the backcountry. But people should be going out and protecting their mind, body and soul during this.

“Our stance is accidents happen and people make mistakes. But our job is to help those in need regardless of the circumstances without judgment and with compassion. We are more than willing to help.”

Taking advise from an article that is in a country with a out of control virus spread, is a great idea.



Just goes to show that not all SAR teams are on the same page...I also happen to know that the head of one of the largest SAR teams in BC was out on a major personal ski tour adventure two weeks ago. Not everyone involved with SAR believes everyone should stay locked up at home...some believe its OK to go out if you practice good decision making.
 
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