Sled deck on 1/2 ton?
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5Lgreenback
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I have a sled deck on a half ton. 2 sleds loaded up, sled fuelled up with tunnel jerrys full as well and gear and equipment for 2 riders ready to go and she's still within payload rating. Truck sits just about level as well when loaded, no airbags installed.
Stg2Suby
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LOL I was wondering if people would notice my tongue-in-cheek "shame" edit reason. I don't take anything too seriously nowadays. Well except punting the NDP, that needed to be taken seriously.
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Caper11
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Well if you have the heavy duty payload package and a supercrew 4x4 I highly doubt it.
Less than 1800 lbs payload capacity, with a 5.0l
5Lgreenback
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Supercrew 4x4 yes, with HDPP. 2300 lb payload on mine, some as high as 2550lb payloads, depending on options.
Not sure where you got 1800 lbs from, that would be standard on non HDPP package truck with minimal options on 157" wheelbase configuration.
Not sure where you got 1800 lbs from, that would be standard on non HDPP package truck with minimal options on 157" wheelbase configuration.
FernieHawk
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Quick web search for 2018 F150. 5.0 4x4 shows 2,640 lb for super crew, 2,730 lb for super cab and 3,040 for regular cab.
Koshfordlincoln.com
Caper11
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Page 12, of the actual towing guide that ford puts out, which includes 150lb passenger in each available seating position.
https://www.ford.ca/cmslibs/content...uides/pdf/RV_Trailer_Towing_Guide_EN_2018.PDF
Dunno where everyone else is seeing way higher specs.
https://www.ford.ca/cmslibs/content...uides/pdf/RV_Trailer_Towing_Guide_EN_2018.PDF
Dunno where everyone else is seeing way higher specs.
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FernieHawk
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You already answered your own question...those figures for the campers includes 150 lbs for each of 5 passengers...that's 750 lbs right there.
I believe most payload specs do not subtract/include any passenger weight or at the most, 200 lbs for the driver.
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Caper11
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Any towing chart Ive ever looked at either subtracted or allowed a certain value for passengers in their payload rating.
Some charts even look at the actual trim of the truck due to accessories.
So ford went to aluminum body and came up with the HD payload package to make their specs look better in brochures, take into account of the deduction in their towing chart and their specs are no better than their competitors.
Approx 1000lbs probably polaris sleds on the deck and a 3-500lbs deck depending on the brand and a person is pushing the limits of the payload on any 1/2 ton.
Some charts even look at the actual trim of the truck due to accessories.
So ford went to aluminum body and came up with the HD payload package to make their specs look better in brochures, take into account of the deduction in their towing chart and their specs are no better than their competitors.
Approx 1000lbs probably polaris sleds on the deck and a 3-500lbs deck depending on the brand and a person is pushing the limits of the payload on any 1/2 ton.
FernieHawk
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I'm not sure why people don't understand the basic info printed on the door sill plate.
Here is mine...2011 HD F150 5.0 4x4 Reg Cab.
GVWR = 8,200 lbs
Front GAWR = 4,050 lbs
Rear GAWR = 4,800 lbs
Payload = 2,708 lbs
Subtract 2,708 lb payload from 8,200 lb GVWR and that means my truck weighed 5,492 lb from the factory including all options and full fluids, this is the curb weight. As long as I don't exceed either axle weight rating I can add up to 2,708 lbs of breathing or non breathing items to my truck and be road legal.
Here is mine...2011 HD F150 5.0 4x4 Reg Cab.
GVWR = 8,200 lbs
Front GAWR = 4,050 lbs
Rear GAWR = 4,800 lbs
Payload = 2,708 lbs
Subtract 2,708 lb payload from 8,200 lb GVWR and that means my truck weighed 5,492 lb from the factory including all options and full fluids, this is the curb weight. As long as I don't exceed either axle weight rating I can add up to 2,708 lbs of breathing or non breathing items to my truck and be road legal.
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Stg2Suby
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Now that's just crazy talk, c'mon! This thread has 190 pages of evidence supporting you can't put a sled deck on 1/2 ton
5Lgreenback
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Exactly, the chart he's looking at appears to be for camper specific applications for Ford Trucks with camper package. The example of 1800 pounds of camper plus 750 lbs of occupants is 2550 lbs total payload according to that chart.
My door sticker says 2300lbs, rear axel weight isn't exceeded when loaded, truck drives fine (better than any jacked up 1 ton Ive been in), everything legit/ legal. Not sure what the fuss is.
Ford had the HDPP package well before they went aluminum, and they do play with numbers of course to sell trucks, but no different than Ram or Chev.
FernieHawk
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Some good reading.
BC MOT
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...003)GVWR.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3IWqoApKYTUH3JIw6anPrc
BC MOT
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...003)GVWR.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3IWqoApKYTUH3JIw6anPrc
Caper11
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Wrong,, You can be axle legal and still be over your GVWR.
Here is a ford 1/2 ton with a 1607 payload, fitting for this thread. Lol
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5Lgreenback
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They need the HDPP package, which isn't very common. To get 2450lb+ payloads in the F150 it seems the trucks need to be very basic and extended cab or reg cab. They won't be hauling sleds with quite the luxury and comfort you have. An F150 platinum would only have a 1500lbish payload. How do you like the seat massagers?
Options weigh a lot, I would guess a base model optioned F350 with the gasser engine would have a payload above 4000lbs.
5Lgreenback
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Whats your point? That pic doesn't prove anything. I think you don't quite grasp payload/ GVWR ratings, or trolling.
FernieHawk
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No...I'm not wrong.
I'm legally allowed to add 2,708 lbs of payload to my vehicle to bring it to the maximum GVWR of 8,200 lbs. I have to make sure that the weight is distributed over both axles so i do not exceed either the front GAWR (4,050 lbs) or the rear GAWR (4,800 lbs). Both front and rear GAWR add up to a total of 8,850 lbs...650 lbs more than the vehicle GVWR.
And yes, you can be legal on both axles and over the GVWR...never said you couldn't. In my case I could legally have 4,000 lbs on the front and 4,700 on the rear but i would be 500 lbs over the GVWR and therefor be illegal.
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Caper11
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I understand it just fine. This is a sled deck on a 1/2 ton thread, I just showed a f150 with a payload of 1607lbs, as per its door sticker......
FernieHawk
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Whats your point...I just gave you the specs for my F150 with a 2,708 payload. LOL
Lots of 1/2 tons with way less than 1,600 lb payload.
