Sled deck on 1/2 ton?

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Yes and it requires a special payload and rim package to meet that. So is it a "heavy half"?

And also take notice that the ecoboost and the v8 have the same ratings within 10lbs, so does that mean the the ecoboost engine weighs the same as the v-8?

At the end of the day what would you like to meet on the hwy towing a 35ft bumper pull trailer, a 1/2 ton, 3/4,or a 1ton.


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One ton B-trains are what I like to meet on the highway. On a corner preferably.

A 50ft toy hauler is a good substitute though! LMAO
 
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Yes and it requires a special payload and rim package to meet that. So is it a "heavy half"?

And also take notice that the ecoboost and the v8 have the same ratings within 10lbs, so does that mean the the ecoboost engine weighs the same as the v-8?

At the end of the day what would you like to meet on the hwy towing a 35ft bumper pull trailer, a 1/2 ton, 3/4,or a 1ton.


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I fail to see any point you have or attempted to have made. lol

The truck specified legally is allowed to carry "x" amount of payload. Whether or not it requires a special package, when it has that equipment it is spec'd for that payload. Its like saying a Ram 2500 has a 2500lb payload only when spec'd with a gas motor which is likely not far from the truth. And the slang terms for half, 3/4 and one ton although still widely used are long outdated. Most "half ton" trucks have outgrown the 1000lb payload many years ago. You can play the payload cop all you wish but in the eyes of the law should someone get pulled over in that properly equipped F150 and they are not over weight then what is there to debate?

I meet all sorts of tards on the hiway everyday towing much worse loads than a sled deck loaded with two sleds on the F150's that have been mentioned. Minivans and SUV's with 24'+ trailers, Tacomas with 2500lb campers, 1 ton diesels with goose necks towing skidsteers and the boomers not done up properly. Meeting a 35ft bumper pull behind any of those vehicles is no different. If the guy towing the 35ft bumperpull behind a 1/2 ton is a moron, he is going to be a moron behind whatever vehicle he is in. The vehicle type doesn't change the capability of the driver. I am sure many configurations of F150's have towing capacity of 8000-10000 lbs if not more.
 

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If one only has a 1/2 ton and the Kows want to go to town, then whats a person too do, go to town a take pictures to show the Kows, or bring them along, Ha.

Load heavy and drive fast keeps Kows and I happy, we don't need no stinking GVWR sticker,,, we shouldn't go to town for ice-cream and a movie,,, life has too many rules. No one cares if your 1/2 ton bumper is dragging on the ground packing 10 tons too much. Ha
 

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Thought I heard that in Alberta you are fine with a deck on a 1/2ton but as soon as you go to BC you are pooched. Is that correct? Or am I misinformed?

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Thought I heard that in Alberta you are fine with a deck on a 1/2ton but as soon as you go to BC you are pooched. Is that correct? Or am I misinformed?

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I fail to see any point you have or attempted to have made. lol

The truck specified legally is allowed to carry "x" amount of payload. Whether or not it requires a special package, when it has that equipment it is spec'd for that payload. Its like saying a Ram 2500 has a 2500lb payload only when spec'd with a gas motor which is likely not far from the truth. And the slang terms for half, 3/4 and one ton although still widely used are long outdated. Most "half ton" trucks have outgrown the 1000lb payload many years ago. You can play the payload cop all you wish but in the eyes of the law should someone get pulled over in that properly equipped F150 and they are not over weight then what is there to debate?

I meet all sorts of tards on the hiway everyday towing much worse loads than a sled deck loaded with two sleds on the F150's that have been mentioned. Minivans and SUV's with 24'+ trailers, Tacomas with 2500lb campers, 1 ton diesels with goose necks towing skidsteers and the boomers not done up properly. Meeting a 35ft bumper pull behind any of those vehicles is no different. If the guy towing the 35ft bumperpull behind a 1/2 ton is a moron, he is going to be a moron behind whatever vehicle he is in. The vehicle type doesn't change the capability of the driver. I am sure many configurations of F150's have towing capacity of 8000-10000 lbs if not more.

My points were not all f-150's can haul the 2600 lb payload like you stated. When properly equipped with the package and 18" wheels they can, just like the heavy half ford produced before, it was a package added.
3/4 tons and 1 tons to my knowledge have no special packages other than the dual wheel package on the 1ton
Im unsure if the the 150 comes with LT tires with that package either, seen lots on the lot with p-rated tires on the 150s so is that truck capable of the 2600 lb payload?

My other point was your diesel truck comment, look at the gvw of the f150 with the payload package, its no where near a diesel trucks, that tells me that the f150 is a light truck. Leading me to my question of what would you prefer to meet? A heavy truck towing a heavy trailer, or a light truck towing a heavy trailer.


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Just because you won't get caught doesn't make it safe.
I would never put one on my f150, but just something I heard.

Way more body roll in a 1/2 ton than a 3/4.
I suppose maybe if you added a leaf or something it might be alright if your truck can handle the payload.
 

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1 tons are a light truck,, only 2000ish lbs more than a half ton. When I see them heading down the road, towing tractor trailer sized loads, I like to give them space.

But if the kows need to get to town, load up the ol'e Ram to 40,000lbs she'll maker its got a cummins.
 

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would a f150 crew with 2 sleds on deck{Tex tie down approved} and 390 liters of premium be ok? 2 guys gassed up, not wearing helmets, {OMG :rolleyes:}, and 2- 24's in back be ok?
 

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I have heard of a guy hauling his donkey and cow all over the country in his pick- m- up, he is a trucker of sorts. buckles the herd in, farm yard style.:th_quad:
 

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My points were not all f-150's can haul the 2600 lb payload like you stated. When properly equipped with the package and 18" wheels they can, just like the heavy half ford produced before, it was a package added.
3/4 tons and 1 tons to my knowledge have no special packages other than the dual wheel package on the 1ton
Im unsure if the the 150 comes with LT tires with that package either, seen lots on the lot with p-rated tires on the 150s so is that truck capable of the 2600 lb payload?

My other point was your diesel truck comment, look at the gcvw of the f150 with the payload package, its no where near a diesel trucks, that tells me that the f150 is a light truck. Leading me to my question of what would you prefer to meet? A heavy truck towing a heavy trailer, or a light truck towing a heavy trailer.


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Good on you for making that pointless observation on something I never said. If you are going to make an argument or point out a flaw in something, take the time to actually read the content and make an educated reply rather than sitting at the keyboard with itchy fingers. lol

the first line from the post you quoted and made reply to what appeared to have no point:

If someone has a F150 or any other comparable truck with a deck and loads it up and weighs it and it's within the vehicles designed and specified weight limits then what is there to argue?

Where does it say that I say all F150's have a 2600lb payload? Quite contrary, I said if someone weighs their truck and it's within the vehicles designed and specified weight limits. That refers to that specific truck, not that someone should assume all F150's have enough payload to legally carry whatever number you want to define.

second reference to the F150's,

But if there is a F150 that has enough payload and I have never cared to actually weigh one, to handle the same load it's forbidden because it's a F150 and people just don't like it.

Again, no mention of ALL F150's.


And why are we talking about combined weights in a thread about sled decks. GCVW is not a factor for the purpose of this thread.

Lastly, I mentioned the payload of a Supercrew 4x4 and then posted a photo with the Ford specified payload capacities. Why would I say or even begin to suggest all F150's have a 2600 lb payload when I referenced the specific info supplied? I didn't. But I did show an example of one specific combination that could have that payload.


Trust me Caper, I am not fighting you on the notion that it's a good idea to have a F150 and a deck with two sleds. I am simply providing evidence that although has been frowned upon by the majority of the crowd to use a lighter truck for that purpose, it is not illegal to do such when that truck is properly "equipped". If someone chooses to purchase that F150 with that tow/payload package and uses it and are within the limits set by the manufacturer that is their choice and they are completely eligible and legal to do so.

But as always, thanks for being a good sport.
 

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Super crew 4x4 - payload 2660 lbs. more than many 2500 series diesels have.

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I'm not fighting with you either dude I unsure where this disconnect is really, the above quote is your words I just made the observation that the 2660 on the chart you provided has a "t" beside it indicating a special package has to be on the truck to meet that 2660 payload. And if yah look at the bottom of that chart it says as such.

You say I have made pointless observations? maybe so, but my observation thus far is, some do not read or understand the fine or bold print.


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