Sled deck on 1/2 ton?

[doorfx]

So a one ton loaded up with a payload of 2950# is legal and safe but a 1/2 ton with 3000# payload is not safe nor legal ?
Don't get me wrong I understand what your saying. A bigger heavier truck will be more stable. My point is , people making blanket statements that a 1/2 ton can't do it safely are being very close minded. Do two sleds and gear weigh 3000# ? The 2016 f-150 is not your daddies 1/2 ton anymore. Christ my 1976 3/4 Chevy only had a payload of around 1500#. Things change, at least give the new trucks a chance.

 

[Stompin Tom]

So a one ton loaded up with a payload of 2950# is legal and safe but a 1/2 ton with 3000# payload is not safe nor legal ?
Don't get me wrong I understand what your saying. A bigger heavier truck will be more stable. My point is , people making blanket statements that a 1/2 ton can't do it safely are being very close minded. Do two sleds and gear weigh 3000# ? The 2016 f-150 is not your daddies 1/2 ton anymore. Christ my 1976 3/4 Chevy only had a payload of around 1500#. Things change, at least give the new trucks a chance.

spend your money, load her up, make sure you have all your gear and fuel, then run her across the scales and see where your legal axle weights are.

Ask any DOT officer, their first concern is legal axle weight, 2nd concern is max gvw. Your putting the horse ahead of the cart.

 

[Stompin Tom]

So a one ton loaded up with a payload of 2950# is legal and safe but a 1/2 ton with 3000# payload is not safe nor legal ?
Don't get me wrong I understand what your saying. A bigger heavier truck will be more stable. My point is , people making blanket statements that a 1/2 ton can't do it safely are being very close minded. Do two sleds and gear weigh 3000# ? The 2016 f-150 is not your daddies 1/2 ton anymore. Christ my 1976 3/4 Chevy only had a payload of around 1500#. Things change, at least give the new trucks a chance.

and your guilty of the blanket statement, you have not addressed length of cab, length of box, height of deck, relevance to axle weights. all you say is 2016 f150.

 

[Stompin Tom]

So a one ton loaded up with a payload of 2950# is legal and safe but a 1/2 ton with 3000# payload is not safe nor legal ?
Don't get me wrong I understand what your saying. A bigger heavier truck will be more stable. My point is , people making blanket statements that a 1/2 ton can't do it safely are being very close minded. Do two sleds and gear weigh 3000# ? The 2016 f-150 is not your daddies 1/2 ton anymore. Christ my 1976 3/4 Chevy only had a payload of around 1500#. Things change, at least give the new trucks a chance.

I did a quick search and found some interesting information, sure its out of date, for a 2013 ford, but look at the carrying capacities, especially on page 4 where they talk about carrying a camper and list the max weights based on cab length

http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/13flrv&tt_f150.pdf

2013 F150 4x4 regular cab 2383 lbs
2013 F150 4X4 super crew 1455 lbs

Quite a difference.

 

[doorfx]

and your guilty of the blanket statement, you have not addressed length of cab, length of box, height of deck, relevance to axle weights. all you say is 2016 f150.

Look what I posted above

 

[imdoo'n]

What? Did you roll over and nudge him?




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No, but he watches that u-tube vid so much. I'm a bit nervous

 

[imdoo'n]

spend your money, load her up, make sure you have all your gear and fuel, then run her across the scales and see where your legal axle weights are.

Ask any DOT officer, their first concern is legal axle weight, 2nd concern is max gvw. Your putting the horse ahead of the cart.

So if you load the truck up and run it across the scales and it is under the legal axle weight, you are good to go then,! Right!!!!

 

[imdoo'n]

I'm thinking that is what merv is trying to tell you!

 

[TROLLCAT]

will be going to the scale shack very soon with this set up

 

[TROLLCAT]

the race red ford has them 7 bolt wheels too

 

[007sevens]

you should be ok, hubcaps weigh up.

 

[brutematt750]

Dont even get me started about not adjusting headlights to compensate for the overloads on the back.[/QUOTE]

But if I just put hid's in, I'm good right !


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[doorfx]

I did a quick search and found some interesting information, sure its out of date, for a 2013 ford, but look at the carrying capacities, especially on page 4 where they talk about carrying a camper and list the max weights based on cab length

http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/13flrv&tt_f150.pdf

2013 F150 4x4 regular cab 2383 lbs
2013 F150 4X4 super crew 1455 lbs

Quite a difference.

If you read what I posted above from the 2016 ford website which is relevant.
2x4 regular cab 3290 payload
4x4 regular cab 3000 payload
4x4 super crew 2750 payload
4x4 crew cab 2600 payload
Like I said it's not your daddies 1/2 ton anymore.

 

[arff]

Not asleep, just done with people who think two mountain sleds, on a deck, on a half ton is ok

I agree

 

[Stompin Tom]

If you read what I posted above from the 2016 ford website
2x4 regular cab 3290 payload
4x4 regular cab 3000 payload
4x4 super crew 2750 payload
4x4 crew cab 2600 payload
Like I said it's not your daddies 1/2 ton anymore.

You posted a screen shot with no column headers.

 

[doorfx]

They are at the bottom. Wheel base , cab configuration etc.
I'm done , I took the time to educate myself and backup my statements with hard and fast numbers, did you ?
Here is the link.


I'm going riding.

 

[Cat401]

They are at the bottom. Wheel base , cab configuration etc.
I'm done , I took the time to educate myself and backup my statements with hard and fast numbers, did you ?
Here is the link.


I'm going riding.

Does this mean you'll finally quit flogging a dead horse and let this thread die????..................THANK YOU!!

 

[Summitric]

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will be going to the scale shack very soon with this set up

Curious to see what the rear gvwr is.... I had an 04 f350 crew cab short box diesel and with 2 on the sled deck and a 4 place open trailer loaded and 5 passengers and gear my rear gvwr was barely legal. The DOT officer at the scale said it was close, but I was legal.... Let's see your numbers when you roll over the scales


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[TROLLCAT]

Curious to see what the rear gvwr is.... I had an 04 f350 crew cab short box diesel and with 2 on the sled deck and a 4 place open trailer loaded and 5 passengers and gear my rear gvwr was barely legal. The DOT officer at the scale said it was close, but I was legal.... Let's see your numbers when you roll over the scales


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Will be posting it what ever the #'s are, and if all goes as plan truck will be full of fuel to.

 

[woody_tobius_jr]

Well you guys scared me enough that I sold my 1/2 ton, here is my new set up, should be good to go...a little drafty but I'll get used to it




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