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Used stuff in Canada isn't taxless so add that to your "out the door" comparison. You have to lie to get a deal on tax or don't register it.
If you spent 2 grand on crap take it off, ask a 1000 and take 600. If it ain't worth the bother then give it to the new guy with a smile. Chances are the buyer doesn't even know why you put the stuff on. Ask any dealer what sells quickest, stock or mod.
I know what it costs to trade every year and I know what my trades sold for. I ended up feeling sorry for the dealer and paying more as time went on lol. I'm sure the only money they made on me was the other 3 or 4 grand I spent in there each season.
If a dealer has a 1 yr old trade on the floor beside his 1yr old non-current with all the incentives and instant financing contracts (which they make money on) how much cheaper should the trade be to make it attractive to the buyer and sales guy.
Trade in a 1yr old truck, oh boy, 1yr old heavy equipment, oh boy oh boy lol. It's the way it's always been, based on percent not dollars just today the dollars are higher. Extended warranty on my trades has never added any extra value for me. Salesmen never ask.
What is a $11.500 non current worth. No more than 11,000, maybe less if you buy a lot. How much is the used one beside it worth? 10,500? Chances are 9500 cash no trade would be a quick handshake. So the new owner has the confidence (maybe just in their mind) that the dealer will stand behind it. And,,, don't blame the factory or the dealer if you overpaid in the spring cause you acted like a kid. Charge that part to your summer dreams.
Buy private and buyer beware. Has to be less to take the risk, eh. Never bin raced, never over 65MPH, my girl friends sled, only ridden on Sunday lol. How much less is an individuals opinion. 1000, 2000, 500? What is your risk factor value?
I'm looking for a used sled for my son. Something a bit modern chassis wise. Got a 4 grand price limit from him including tax lol. Knowing the history and being able to do any repairs for just the cost of parts you can balance things out in your search. I'll help him there but no 7 to 10yr old sled is worth dumping 3 grand into unless you get it for a 1000 and that isn't much money when you add in tax for bearings, bushings, shock rebuilds if possible, pistons, crank rebuild, clutches, belt, etc. Things wear out in 4 or 5 thousand miles lol.
Doos (Revs). They all come with a new motor lol. Only it's 1000 miles old but the original only went 1800. Would you ay 4000 dollars?
Poos (Dragons). " " " " " " " lol. Only 500 miles but the dealer installed 2 others in the previous 2000 miles lol. Lot of low milers in this group. Would you pay 4000 dollars?
Cats (early Ms). They've all been pull and go with just rebuilt clutches lol. But,,, 7 to 9 seasons old, it needs stuff. A lot of stuff lol to get a full season unless you like to roll the dice or ride within quick pull to he truck. Would you pay 4000 dollars?
All these sleds are still worthy sleds in good condition. But then they might not be for sale. You have to plan on that factor too.
None of the above sleds I've looked are at 4000 dollars asking. They are all higher. None of them were in "like new" condition except for asking price, but when things wear out slow you don't notice it so I never insulted anyone with an offer. Instead I looked at the reality of 4500 to 5000 purchase price plus 1000 or 2 of refurbish and a one or 2 yr old trade in on he floor becomes the value pick and the least amount of work.
At least you have a 2 or 3 yr old sled to ride and later sell (never really own anything, you just rent it lol) in the end instead of a 8 or 10 yr old sled when it's all done. I always chuckle to myself when an original owner is asking for only 2200 dollars of rent for 8 yrs of use (difference between original purchase price and current asking price).
Wadda you think you got, a Toyota lol!
Just MO but if your sled you are sitting on isn't selling your asking too much cause there are buyers out there. Just make sure the first place people look (the dealer) doesn't have better value cause he can finance too.
If you spent 2 grand on crap take it off, ask a 1000 and take 600. If it ain't worth the bother then give it to the new guy with a smile. Chances are the buyer doesn't even know why you put the stuff on. Ask any dealer what sells quickest, stock or mod.
I know what it costs to trade every year and I know what my trades sold for. I ended up feeling sorry for the dealer and paying more as time went on lol. I'm sure the only money they made on me was the other 3 or 4 grand I spent in there each season.
If a dealer has a 1 yr old trade on the floor beside his 1yr old non-current with all the incentives and instant financing contracts (which they make money on) how much cheaper should the trade be to make it attractive to the buyer and sales guy.
Trade in a 1yr old truck, oh boy, 1yr old heavy equipment, oh boy oh boy lol. It's the way it's always been, based on percent not dollars just today the dollars are higher. Extended warranty on my trades has never added any extra value for me. Salesmen never ask.
What is a $11.500 non current worth. No more than 11,000, maybe less if you buy a lot. How much is the used one beside it worth? 10,500? Chances are 9500 cash no trade would be a quick handshake. So the new owner has the confidence (maybe just in their mind) that the dealer will stand behind it. And,,, don't blame the factory or the dealer if you overpaid in the spring cause you acted like a kid. Charge that part to your summer dreams.
Buy private and buyer beware. Has to be less to take the risk, eh. Never bin raced, never over 65MPH, my girl friends sled, only ridden on Sunday lol. How much less is an individuals opinion. 1000, 2000, 500? What is your risk factor value?
I'm looking for a used sled for my son. Something a bit modern chassis wise. Got a 4 grand price limit from him including tax lol. Knowing the history and being able to do any repairs for just the cost of parts you can balance things out in your search. I'll help him there but no 7 to 10yr old sled is worth dumping 3 grand into unless you get it for a 1000 and that isn't much money when you add in tax for bearings, bushings, shock rebuilds if possible, pistons, crank rebuild, clutches, belt, etc. Things wear out in 4 or 5 thousand miles lol.
Doos (Revs). They all come with a new motor lol. Only it's 1000 miles old but the original only went 1800. Would you ay 4000 dollars?
Poos (Dragons). " " " " " " " lol. Only 500 miles but the dealer installed 2 others in the previous 2000 miles lol. Lot of low milers in this group. Would you pay 4000 dollars?
Cats (early Ms). They've all been pull and go with just rebuilt clutches lol. But,,, 7 to 9 seasons old, it needs stuff. A lot of stuff lol to get a full season unless you like to roll the dice or ride within quick pull to he truck. Would you pay 4000 dollars?
All these sleds are still worthy sleds in good condition. But then they might not be for sale. You have to plan on that factor too.
None of the above sleds I've looked are at 4000 dollars asking. They are all higher. None of them were in "like new" condition except for asking price, but when things wear out slow you don't notice it so I never insulted anyone with an offer. Instead I looked at the reality of 4500 to 5000 purchase price plus 1000 or 2 of refurbish and a one or 2 yr old trade in on he floor becomes the value pick and the least amount of work.
At least you have a 2 or 3 yr old sled to ride and later sell (never really own anything, you just rent it lol) in the end instead of a 8 or 10 yr old sled when it's all done. I always chuckle to myself when an original owner is asking for only 2200 dollars of rent for 8 yrs of use (difference between original purchase price and current asking price).
Wadda you think you got, a Toyota lol!
Just MO but if your sled you are sitting on isn't selling your asking too much cause there are buyers out there. Just make sure the first place people look (the dealer) doesn't have better value cause he can finance too.
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