Save Nordegg from the NDP
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imdoo'n
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must be getting overloaded with e-mails, i have sent out 4-5 a day X 5 for the last 5 days.
think i shall start sending them in for the dog too
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imdoo'n
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good post, everyone on here should be interested in,
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Just read this entire thread. It’s really coming across as divided people. In which is what phillips/Y2Y Want. Divide and conquer. They will eliminate each user group one at a time. You watch. Ohv was the easiest most visible target. Then camping. Soon will be hunters and anglers. If YOU haven’t done any thorough research on Y2Y and their agenda... you better educate yourself. Quickly. Then realize we have an eco-extremist environment minister that is heavily affiliated with them. So much of this thread... again all about ohv. You gotta look at the big picture. Everyone and I mean everyone will lose in the end. Think of the little things that go with this... So you don’t ride an ohv. Ok. NO more pulling your trailer out for open camping. No more firewood harvest for wood to heat your home. Castle is 107000 hectares. Now your dog must be on a 4 foot leash every inch of it. How are you going to hunt grouse with your dog on a leash and safely discharge your firearm? Cougar hunters? Nope not unless you can run and keep up with the dogs. Wanna take your kids out An shoot B.B. guns or sling shots? Nope. Nothing that fires any projectile is allowed. Except during hunting season... with a permit. Back country camper? Sorry no fires allowed unless in a designated fire ring. So after you 10km trek to that lake... have fun sitting around in the dark freezing your but off eating your freezdried meals no fire to cook on. Pull over on the side of the road and park to walk down to your favourite section of river? Nope... sorry illegal now. Must park in a designated parking area. Just added 5km walk to get there. Elderly folks or folks with disabilities will now have a very difficult time to access certain areas. Eg South castle road provided access to many km for hunting, fishing, several hikes and camping. It is now closed to on highway vehicles. It was a freaking road. So now UNLESS you own an atv or horses... or are ABLE to walk that distance... sorry not for you. I would love to have a horse, but I live in town, can’t afford one nor have time for one. So yes I have a sxs. I bought it purely to get my aging father to areas we hunt and fish. He’s 70 now. Now way in hell could he walk to these places anymore. My boy is only 1. It will be years before he can hike these distances. No more getting away from it all... stuck in a campground paying the govt more money, listening to the drunks next door and smelling other peoples cooking. Every group has its bad users... Some hunters poach... anglers poach or use bait when not allowed...hikers litter...some people cut live trees... some campers leave behind garbage... And yes some ohv go off the trail. Doesn’t mean they should shut everyone out. Parks are proven to run at a loss... that money could have gone to better management and enforcement. Y2Y is a real threat to outdoorsmen. They want people OUT of the mountains. Period. Unless we can all see past our differences and stand together, no matter what our outdoor pursuits are, we will lose. We CAN find a way for all to use the land respectfully, and together. Look at the NDP performance... lies lies lies... so if you think Phillips is telling you the truth... think again. There is photo proof of her with Harvey Locke of Y2Y. The castle was just the start... a trial run. So they ignored some emails and letters, and a few small protests. No big deal to them. They put on consultations so people “think” their opinion matters... when it does not. Y2Y and Phillips have an agenda... they are succeeding... and unless everyone rises up and says enough is enough... we will ALL lose. |
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medler
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Yes. But just said thank you and BS like that. I was in nordegg on the weekend. Signed an other letter there. Debbie at the beer hut is sending them all in. The people I talked to are the restaurant are very upset The town will die down so bad if this happens.
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imdoo'n
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nice deflection, eh!
doorfx
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Yes and not another word from them.
imdoo'n
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seems about right,
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medler
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As it stands now, the Bighorn backcountry is divided into six public land use zones, and Y2Y is hoping to limit access to users by having the provincial government rezone the area as a wildland provincial park.
Frequent users and other concerned citizens are saying that this will effectively kill small business in the Bighorn region that relies on these off-highway vehicle (OHV) enthusiasts and campers.
The Love Your Headwaters initiative is insistent that protecting the Bighorn region as a wildland provincial park is vital to ensuring that this water source remains intact for Edmontonians, and stresses that the Bighorn headwaters comprise nearly 90 per cent of Edmonton’s water supply.
Even though this agreement between Alley Kat, Bent Stick, and Love Your Headwaters was announced months ago, not a lot of fuss was made until recently.
Uproar on social media seems to have begun just a few days ago when a Facebook posted on a Facebook group page called This is My Nordegg - Advocating for the continued Public Land Zone Use, which describes itself as a “page for communication and information sharing regarding the Nordegg area and the Bighorn Backcountry.”
Members are concerned that restricting the use of the land to OHV enthusiasts and campers will also hurt their businesses and accuse these breweries of putting their businesses ahead of those in the Bighorn region who rely on the thousands who visit every year.
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I reached out to Doug Noyes for comment, but he has declined to comment at this time.
This, in turn, has sparked a retaliatory call to arms of sorts, as beer lovers across Alberta have been leaving supportive reviews of both breweries to counteract this sudden spike in negative posts and reviews.
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Bent Stick has been putting the Love Your Headwaters official logo on their bottles for months prior to the press release by Y2Y in October. In November, they started distributing coasters to bars and pubs around Edmonton which they co-produced with Love Your Headwaters with the tagline: “Great beer needs great water”. Co-founder Scott Kendall said, “Sure, beer is great. But great beer doesn't happen without great water.
The headwaters of the Rocky Mountains are the single most important natural resource in our province because they sustain our lives, and the agricultural and economic activities Albertans participate in every day.”
This recent customer blowback wasn’t a total surprise to the folks at Bent Stick, however, who told me that they “did anticipate that there would be a few disgruntled customers.”
While outdoor enthusiasts who are opposed to seeing their OHV use limited in crown lands denounces Bent Stick and Alley Kat, Bent Stick assures that “[they] aren’t opposed to OHV use in the entire province; just in this very fragile and important area,” but that they also “probably didn’t realize that people would take it as an outright attack on their ‘freedom’.”
They go on to say that they’ve, “learned something about the passion of the OHV community through their outrage on our Facebook page.”
Finally, they say that they’ll stay the course in regards to their involvement with Love Your Headwaters and Y2Y, and will still be participating in the Hops and Headwaters event on Jan. 27th.
Alley Kat has been attaching the Love Your Headwaters logo to their six-pack boxes since October. Regarding Alley Kat’s involvement with Love Your Headwaters and Y2Y, general manager Kent Kirkland had this to say: “We actually aren’t affiliated with Y2Y at all and not sure how we got associated with them. Our involvement is with Love Your Headwaters and I guess they have an affiliation with Y2Y. Love Your Headwaters approached us about promoting their organization with stickers on some of our six-packs this summer, and given that water is a vital ingredient in our beer, we were happy to support initiatives that aim to maintain or improve the quality of water in our province,” adding that Alley Kat is “continuing [their] involvement with the Hops and Headwaters event.
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Frequent users and other concerned citizens are saying that this will effectively kill small business in the Bighorn region that relies on these off-highway vehicle (OHV) enthusiasts and campers.
The Love Your Headwaters initiative is insistent that protecting the Bighorn region as a wildland provincial park is vital to ensuring that this water source remains intact for Edmontonians, and stresses that the Bighorn headwaters comprise nearly 90 per cent of Edmonton’s water supply.
Even though this agreement between Alley Kat, Bent Stick, and Love Your Headwaters was announced months ago, not a lot of fuss was made until recently.
Uproar on social media seems to have begun just a few days ago when a Facebook posted on a Facebook group page called This is My Nordegg - Advocating for the continued Public Land Zone Use, which describes itself as a “page for communication and information sharing regarding the Nordegg area and the Bighorn Backcountry.”
Members are concerned that restricting the use of the land to OHV enthusiasts and campers will also hurt their businesses and accuse these breweries of putting their businesses ahead of those in the Bighorn region who rely on the thousands who visit every year.
Image for [node:title]
I reached out to Doug Noyes for comment, but he has declined to comment at this time.
This, in turn, has sparked a retaliatory call to arms of sorts, as beer lovers across Alberta have been leaving supportive reviews of both breweries to counteract this sudden spike in negative posts and reviews.
Image for [node:title]
Bent Stick has been putting the Love Your Headwaters official logo on their bottles for months prior to the press release by Y2Y in October. In November, they started distributing coasters to bars and pubs around Edmonton which they co-produced with Love Your Headwaters with the tagline: “Great beer needs great water”. Co-founder Scott Kendall said, “Sure, beer is great. But great beer doesn't happen without great water.
The headwaters of the Rocky Mountains are the single most important natural resource in our province because they sustain our lives, and the agricultural and economic activities Albertans participate in every day.”
This recent customer blowback wasn’t a total surprise to the folks at Bent Stick, however, who told me that they “did anticipate that there would be a few disgruntled customers.”
While outdoor enthusiasts who are opposed to seeing their OHV use limited in crown lands denounces Bent Stick and Alley Kat, Bent Stick assures that “[they] aren’t opposed to OHV use in the entire province; just in this very fragile and important area,” but that they also “probably didn’t realize that people would take it as an outright attack on their ‘freedom’.”
They go on to say that they’ve, “learned something about the passion of the OHV community through their outrage on our Facebook page.”
Finally, they say that they’ll stay the course in regards to their involvement with Love Your Headwaters and Y2Y, and will still be participating in the Hops and Headwaters event on Jan. 27th.
Alley Kat has been attaching the Love Your Headwaters logo to their six-pack boxes since October. Regarding Alley Kat’s involvement with Love Your Headwaters and Y2Y, general manager Kent Kirkland had this to say: “We actually aren’t affiliated with Y2Y at all and not sure how we got associated with them. Our involvement is with Love Your Headwaters and I guess they have an affiliation with Y2Y. Love Your Headwaters approached us about promoting their organization with stickers on some of our six-packs this summer, and given that water is a vital ingredient in our beer, we were happy to support initiatives that aim to maintain or improve the quality of water in our province,” adding that Alley Kat is “continuing [their] involvement with the Hops and Headwaters event.
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medler
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Don’t buy these guys beer. Slam the business on google reviews.
skegpro
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And go to their website and tell them why you can't drink Alley cat anymore.
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medler
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I did that already. Pretty sure I’m gonna write some more tomorrow to
doorfx
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Nordegg area
I sent them a nice email.
I sent them a nice email.
imdoo'n
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do u have an e-mail-link, or is it facebook/twitter?
skegpro
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imdoo'n
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good deal, i had a beotch of a time downloading info from the nordeg site, was on facebook(not my thing)
imdoo'n
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hard on equipment
imdoo'n
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medicine lake area may be ok, saw would be a good idea, west of 22 north to bucklake also.
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medler
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There was enough last weekend. I was out there. But will melt fast now
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