Recession just around the corner?

[ZRrrr]

Taxes.

Fuel has high tax rates on it that are percentage based so higher costs translate into more tax revenue. Furthermore the more profit big oil makes the more they pay in taxes as well. It is in the government's best interest for prices to be high.

Except for the fact that the largest of the corporations operating in Alberta are paying the lowest taxes ever using very creative tax aversion techniques and every possible loophole (some good reading on this), yet are exporting record levels of profits. Even the taxes that are past due are not being paid because the government has no resources to chase after them! Millions and millions written off as losses each year. Another act of corporate welfare.

And to call the new health tax a premium is false....it is a TAX directed at the heart of the little guy, and we are ALL the little guys. Big wigs will have their portion paid for as part of their compensation plan, while the record number of Albertan's living at the poverty line and the middle class, are expected to pay another tax. Yet another act of corporate welfare as not a single employer is bound to pay an employees health "premium".

How stupid are we.....

Unbelievable.

 

[freeflorider]

Up here in the central interior its balls to the wall, shortage of trucks and drivers, mill yards are low heading into breakup, going to busy as hell this summer as long as we dont burn down. Rates are at an all time high.

We move at a slower pace down here to start with. Not seeing the rates yet as Interfor has never been that willing to loosen up on the purce strings. One thing for sure is they are getting low on yard wood and with the lack of roads in place things should be quite busy this year to catch up. Winner winner chicken dinner.

 

[pfi572]

Up here in the central interior its balls to the wall, shortage of trucks and drivers, mill yards are low heading into breakup, going to busy as hell this summer as long as we dont burn down. Rates are at an all time high.

If you don't think the mills will be cutting your rates if they can due to fellow truckers beating at there door for work?
The slower it gets across the border and company's hear it's busy some place else they will approaching your world also .
Best to keep quiet ? IMO

 

[Stompin Tom]

Its a free world and free enterprise, anything can happen. All you have to do is invest about $125,000 into a trailer and another $15000 or so setting up your truck and come on out. If you feel you can do that, find a job with one of the quality contractors, cut the rates, put up with the other drivers running you off the road, fly at her.

We have two types of mills around here, the corporate mills, Canfor, Westfraser, and the private mills, Dunkly Lumber, Carrier Lumber and the Sinclair groups. The corporates have mainly gone the way of large contractors with fleets of trucks while the privates have gone mainly with owner operators and small fleets. The private mills have been the leaders in rate increases and realized the advantages of having a loyal and competent work force. The ability to move their wood in a safe and productive manner has proven that to them that it is worth it to pay a little more. If has gotten fairly hard to secure a position with a quality contractor for these mills. The fly by night contractors bring in lots of out of town trucks, have lots of crash's and yard incidents and are forever in trouble with the mills. The private mills have gone the way of a type of demerit system, if you have to many problems you dont get no more wood and somebody else gets a shot.

All it takes is another downturn in the price of lumber and everything is out the window. But for now things are decent.

 

[j335]

Wow, downtown Calgary is a ghost town! No crowds walking, parking galore, no suits walking around.

~140,000 people work downtown and I'd estimate less then 1% got let go? Springtime comes and more people start to bike or walk in, so in turn less traffic and more parking availability....

 

[tater]

Wow, downtown Calgary is a ghost town! No crowds walking, parking galore, no suits walking around.

Spring break for school kids this week! Traffic been pleasantly light all week too!!

 

[Mike270412]

He said even the hookers looked depressed

 

[SLEDBUNNYRACING]

He said even the hookers looked depressed

Now that's really sad.


Tapatalk is getting better...on my cell phone.

 

[Caper11]

There must be SOMEONE in the higher ups that can put a stop to this!!! I mean, even the Prime Minister has to buy gas. Why does everyone just "let this bull chit happen"? We all know we're getting absolutely raped, but the politicians and government "police" just let these oil companies make money hand over fist. What in the FAWK is with the diesel prices? A by-product of making gasoline is 20 cents higher than the gasoline? It's all rape. Plain and simple!!!

My worry is, what's the price for fuel going to be after this slowdown. Diesel was 65c per back in 07 I believe.

Guess the company's have to make up for the low oil costs at the pumps???


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[gates559]

He said even the hookers looked depressed

There just coming into their busy season so things should look up for them. Right now it sucks for them cause their no exception, everyone is taking pay cuts and working for lower rates.

I heard some of the pimps are asking them to work for free just to keep their clients through the slow times. A buddy asked for a 20% reduction from what he was charged last year and she was fine with it, just happy to have a job!

And the hookers got it good compared to the strippers.

 

[freeflorider]

Its a free world and free enterprise, anything can happen. All you have to do is invest about $125,000 into a trailer and another $15000 or so setting up your truck and come on out. If you feel you can do that, find a job with one of the quality contractors, cut the rates, put up with the other drivers running you off the road, fly at her.

We have two types of mills around here, the corporate mills, Canfor, Westfraser, and the private mills, Dunkly Lumber, Carrier Lumber and the Sinclair groups. The corporates have mainly gone the way of large contractors with fleets of trucks while the privates have gone mainly with owner operators and small fleets. The private mills have been the leaders in rate increases and realized the advantages of having a loyal and competent work force. The ability to move their wood in a safe and productive manner has proven that to them that it is worth it to pay a little more. If has gotten fairly hard to secure a position with a quality contractor for these mills. The fly by night contractors bring in lots of out of town trucks, have lots of crash's and yard incidents and are forever in trouble with the mills. The private mills have gone the way of a type of demerit system, if you have to many problems you dont get no more wood and somebody else gets a shot.

All it takes is another downturn in the price of lumber and everything is out the window. But for now things are decent.

Well said stompin Tom,as always there will be someone trying to do it for less. I agree the mills are going with the statis quo, safer trucker/ contractor work sites. I have been putting this rate issue back on there laps at our saftey meetings. If you want these professional services and loyal contractors then we need to be paid accordingly. We all suffer from poor rates but with few of us left we need to work towards a future or were all gone. Forestry will never make a come back when the working force is gone. I've had a great run for the last 30 years but there are other things I can do just as well at so I'm hopping rates and work load stableize this year.one thing for sure I tip my hat to anyone trying to get into the biz...tough dusty road at best.

 

[adamg]

Taxes.

Fuel has high tax rates on it that are percentage based so higher costs translate into more tax revenue. Furthermore the more profit big oil makes the more they pay in taxes as well. It is in the government's best interest for prices to be high.

Last I heard, big corporations didn't pay any taxes thanks to the various tax evasions they use.

 

[LUCKY 7]

my father in law was a scaler in Nelson for many,many years and said your same words many times

Well said stompin Tom,as always there will be someone trying to do it for less. I agree the mills are going with the statis quo, safer trucker/ contractor work sites. I have been putting this rate issue back on there laps at our saftey meetings. If you want these professional services and loyal contractors then we need to be paid accordingly. We all suffer from poor rates but with few of us left we need to work towards a future or were all gone. Forestry will never make a come back when the working force is gone. I've had a great run for the last 30 years but there are other things I can do just as well at so I'm hopping rates and work load stableize this year.one thing for sure I tip my hat to anyone trying to get into the biz...tough dusty road at best.

 

[Caper11]

Last I heard, big corporations didn't pay any taxes thanks to the various tax evasions they use.

Isn't royalties a tax?


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[Stompin Tom]

Isn't royalties a tax?


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no, because in essence you are buying a raw product from the people who own the land (citizens of the country) then removing it and reselling it. Oil Companies do not own what is in the ground, they have to pay something for the raw product, the right to extract it and resell it.

 

[Bogger]

You would too if an Ogre handed you a brown bill and drug you into a noodle house washroom.....

He said even the hookers looked depressed

 

[Caper11]

no, because in essence you are buying a raw product from the people who own the land (citizens of the country) then removing it and reselling it. Oil Companies do not own what is in the ground, they have to pay something for the raw product, the right to extract it and resell it.

Yah I suppose,
good of ole prentice to raise taxes today, and bring in a health care levy again during times like these. I'm no expert but that could of Been handled alittle differently.


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[Stompin Tom]

Yah I suppose,
good of ole prentice to raise taxes today, and bring in a health care levy again during times like these. I'm no expert but that could of Been handled alittle differently.


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welcome to BC ............................ oh wait ........................

 

[freeflorider]

welcome to BC ............................ oh wait ........................

Ha ha ha good one...yep our ass cheeks are like leather here in bc when it comes to being hit with tax come ups.

 

[Bogger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtN1YnoL46Q