Question about Log Truck Drivers.

[S.W.A.T.]

Super B 63500 kg Gross so around 92000 lbs payload . Tri axle your allowed 24000 kg on the tri so if you go Tri /Tri / steering 53500 kgs on highway 118000 lbs gross roughly so payload around 82000 lbs

Not much for rules off highway it's the mill that caps the load. Was a guy in Houston few years ago that zeroed the scales. They couldn't even weigh it so that is when the mill said enough is enough.

 

[Mike270412]

Surprised some of those trailers don't break in half.

 

[Trukker]

Surprised some of those trailers don't break in half.

No kidding

 

[Mike270412]

80,500 minus 63500=????

80,500 is my allowable off highway. Can go to 82,000 without penalty but at 82001 it's a fine and I don't get paid for the extra 1500.

Forgot about my little friend that hangs around

Wow! That's a lot on 7 axles. Only 17000 more than a hiway super B.

Mikey meant 17000 LESS then a super B...

Last I checked a super B on the hiway is max 63'500. You farmers probably just load those hoppers till it runs over the sides.

Super B 63500 kg Gross so around 92000 lbs payload . Tri axle your allowed 24000 kg on the tri so if you go Tri /Tri / steering 53500 kgs on highway 118000 lbs gross roughly so payload around 82000 lbs

 

[freeflorider]

Surprised some of those trailers don't break in half.

They do. Plus the truck.

 

[Cyle]

80,500 minus 63500=????

I'm confused too, someone is mixing up lbs and kg's.

Surely that 80 is 80,000lbs payload not 80,000kgs, or even 80,000kgs total weight on 7 axles.

The heaviest i've seen are 25 trailer, 23 drives, 20 steers. Puts you at only 164,000lbs, 80,000kgs is 176,000lbs. Also a incredible difference from the allowable weight of 117,700lbs of that 7 axle combination on the highway.

 

[S.W.A.T.]

I'm confused too, someone is mixing up lbs and kg's.

Surely that 80 is 80,000lbs payload not 80,000kgs, or even 80,000kgs total weight on 7 axles.

The heaviest i've seen are 25 trailer, 23 drives, 20 steers. Puts you at only 164,000lbs, 80,000kgs is 176,000lbs. Also a incredible difference from the allowable weight of 117,700lbs of that 7 axle combination on the highway.

80500kg gvw. Total weight.

 

[Mike270412]

Pretty sure that's 80,500 kg

I'm confused too, someone is mixing up lbs and kg's.

Surely that 80 is 80,000lbs payload not 80,000kgs, or even 80,000kgs total weight on 7 axles.

The heaviest i've seen are 25 trailer, 23 drives, 20 steers. Puts you at only 164,000lbs, 80,000kgs is 176,000lbs. Also a incredible difference from the allowable weight of 117,700lbs of that 7 axle combination on the highway.

 

[Stompin Tom]

I'm confused too, someone is mixing up lbs and kg's.

Surely that 80 is 80,000lbs payload not 80,000kgs, or even 80,000kgs total weight on 7 axles.

The heaviest i've seen are 25 trailer, 23 drives, 20 steers. Puts you at only 164,000lbs, 80,000kgs is 176,000lbs. Also a incredible difference from the allowable weight of 117,700lbs of that 7 axle combination on the highway.

BC Legal axle weights. First, throw the pounds thing in the garbage, this is Canada, everything is metric, DOT will stare at you blindly if you try to talk pounds.

in BC:

Logging Tridrive configuration weights also depend on what your hauling, ie short logs, long logs and trailers your using.

Drivers on tridrive 24000 kg
Steering, with long logs 9100KG, with short logs 7300 kg (a few other variances depending on specific trailers)
tridem axle group on trailer 25000 kg
triaxle axle group on trailer 26100 kg
tandem axle group on trailer 17000 kg

along with this you get a tollerance, in summer is 1500 kg, with a max of 1100 on one axle, in wither 2500 kg with a max of 1500 on any one axle.

Total max weight allowed on highway no matter what your configuration, 63500 kg, unless you are running a King Train with route specific permit, then it is 71300 kg.

The configuration that SWAT is running is allowed 7300KG steering, 24000KG drivers and 25000KG trailer plus winter tolerance so on the highway he is allowed 58,800KG.

Now he is hauling off highway which means as long as he does not drive on any publicly maintained road he is allowed to go to the mill and forestry maximum which will vary from mill to mill and road to road. In most cases it is determined by the ability of the Wagner or Laterneau to lift along with weight ratings for bridges along routes.

Another drawback or bonus of being a logger, depending on how you look at it, is being up at 2am on a saturday morning already having had your sleep for the night and walking around the house looking for something to do other than the wife because she has long since tired of the 2am saturday shoulder shake.

 

[Stompin Tom]

http://cvse.ca/CTPM/Com_Circulars/2017/Circular 02-17 - Logging Steer Axle Weight Authorization.pdf

 

[TROLLCAT]

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[Trashy]

coffee post

I'm up

 

[adamg]

BC Legal axle weights. First, throw the pounds thing in the garbage, this is Canada, everything is metric, DOT will stare at you blindly if you try to talk pounds.

in BC:

Logging Tridrive configuration weights also depend on what your hauling, ie short logs, long logs and trailers your using.

Drivers on tridrive 24000 kg
Steering, with long logs 9100KG, with short logs 7300 kg (a few other variances depending on specific trailers)
tridem axle group on trailer 25000 kg
triaxle axle group on trailer 26100 kg
tandem axle group on trailer 17000 kg

along with this you get a tollerance, in summer is 1500 kg, with a max of 1100 on one axle, in wither 2500 kg with a max of 1500 on any one axle.

Total max weight allowed on highway no matter what your configuration, 63500 kg, unless you are running a King Train with route specific permit, then it is 71300 kg.

The configuration that SWAT is running is allowed 7300KG steering, 24000KG drivers and 25000KG trailer plus winter tolerance so on the highway he is allowed 58,800KG.

Now he is hauling off highway which means as long as he does not drive on any publicly maintained road he is allowed to go to the mill and forestry maximum which will vary from mill to mill and road to road. In most cases it is determined by the ability of the Wagner or Laterneau to lift along with weight ratings for bridges along routes.

Another drawback or bonus of being a logger, depending on how you look at it, is being up at 2am on a saturday morning already having had your sleep for the night and walking around the house looking for something to do other than the wife because she has long since tired of the 2am saturday shoulder shake.

What is it about the job that requires such early starts? Why couldn't you guys just start your day 5 hours later?

 

[Stompin Tom]

Thats simple. The Mills. Most scales at the mills open at 7am. Your first truck has to get to the bush, get loaded, travel to the mill and be there for 7am. IF the scales open at 6am, leave earlier. Last winter I spent the entire winter leaving home at 12.30 am. It can really suck for your home life.

The best part of your day is the first part when the general public is sleeping, nice an quiet, nobody to screw your day up. One other factor is weather, its always colder at night and the colder the better .......... to a certain point.

 

[skegpro]

Thats simple. The Mills. Most scales at the mills open at 7am. Your first truck has to get to the bush, get loaded, travel to the mill and be there for 7am. IF the scales open at 6am, leave earlier. Last winter I spent the entire winter leaving home at 12.30 am. It can really suck for your home life.

The best part of your day is the first part when the general public is sleeping, nice an quiet, nobody to screw your day up. One other factor is weather, its always colder at night and the colder the better .......... to a certain point.

Could you not preload at night?

 

[Stompin Tom]

Then you have to have a place to park a loaded truck, keep it plugged in, be able to start and have a loaderman in the bush late to load you, your one truck out of many, some shows may have 6 trucks, some may have 30, it is much easier to simply get up and go get your load than to try and figure out the demographics for 30 plus loads. Get your load time, get in line and get it to the mill.

Then there are the off highway guys, they have to find a place to park where it is legal for them to drive. Then there is the added time to your day. Many loggers work 15 hour days this time of the year, if your parked away from home you have to get up, warm up your personal vehicle, then travel to your truck, then sit there and let it warm up for about 30 minutes before you can drive it. Its suicide to your truck to move it loaded without a good warmup period. Then at the end of the day you park your truck, warm up you pick up, then travel home. That 15 hour day turns into 16.5 to 17 real fast.

 

[Stompin Tom]

Could you not preload at night?

another problem with preloading is your truck is loaded all weekend, pretty much impossible to do proper maintenance with a loaded truck.

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Then you have to have a place to park a loaded truck, keep it plugged in, be able to start and have a loaderman in the bush late to load you, your one truck out of many, some shows may have 6 trucks, some may have 30, it is much easier to simply get up and go get your load than to try and figure out the demographics for 30 plus loads. Get your load time, get in line and get it to the mill.

Then there are the off highway guys, they have to find a place to park where it is legal for them to drive. Then there is the added time to your day. Many loggers work 15 hour days this time of the year, if your parked away from home you have to get up, warm up your personal vehicle, then travel to your truck, then sit there and let it warm up for about 30 minutes before you can drive it. Its suicide to your truck to move it loaded without a good warmup period. Then at the end of the day you park your truck, warm up you pick up, then travel home. That 15 hour day turns into 16.5 to 17 real fast.

Great explanations

 

[freeflorider]

I know this much, if I could make it to work at 7am and get all the trucks loaded and deal with crew, repairs and production sign me up.
Sadly this is how it works, up at 2am and home at 6.
loggers are one of a kind for sure, we survive the worst conditions and adapt to a unruly lifestyle.
Very good info in your post stomping Tom.

 

[freeflorider]

I'm up

Are you up at 4am because you haven’t gone to bed yet or are you up because you have somewhere to go trashy.