Question about Log Truck Drivers.

[X-it]

Some of those guys are on a lot of channels at once, hell the gossip channel would work for every road. No need to know any rr channels.

 

[X-it]

Roads change all the time... here today gone tomorrow.

 

[skegpro]

I was just laughing the other day cruising logging roads in the Ford, and the sync 3 maps had some of the main ones. It was kinda handy.

I figured the govt of BC would have maps on their website somewhere, but I can't find anything.

Back country roadmaps has some of them.

 

[Bnorth]

They navigate by experience. They see the same mainline roads very frequently but may only be hauling off a spur or block road for a few days. The roadbuilders and harvesting contractors get geo-referenced maps but they rarely make it past the buncherman who uses it for boundaries.

 

[skegpro]

They navigate by experience. They see the same mainline roads very frequently but may only be hauling off a spur or block road for a few days. The roadbuilders and harvesting contractors get geo-referenced maps but they rarely make it past the buncherman who uses it for boundaries.

That makes sense

 

[X-it]

Who knows... starting using Memory Maps for a bit and half your questions would be all gone.

 

[Mike270412]

Almost all bush roads in Alberta are on Google maps.

 

[X-it]

True about google, but half the time offline it never locks on. And those roads do not show up too well. Memory Maps is locked on even when your gps can't and the roads are easy to see. Elevation lines sure help with how steep a road is going to be.

 

[Stompin Tom]

Some of those guys are on a lot of channels at once, hell the gossip channel would work for every road. No need to know any rr channels.

gotta call you on this one, you obviously haven't spent much time on actual working roads.

 

[Stompin Tom]

Is there an online database for Resources Road maps or how do you know where your going?

before we head out to any new block we are provided a prework form, usually by email, In these preworks you are supplies with written directions, radio channels for each road, any possible hazzards, bad spots on road, ie bad corners, bad hills. Along with the prework we are also given an emailed map, these are supplied to the contractor from the ministry of forests.

If you want maps you can call the Ministry of Forests and they will provide them to you.

 

[Stompin Tom]

There are still a lot of roads using the old frequencies, so do not expect them to be all on RR channels.



https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/...ource-roads/radio-communications/channel-maps

Every main working road in BC has an applied RR channel as per WCB regulations. The RR channels are a WCB requirement, something they have forced on the Ministry of Forests. Nobody screws with it. Any road that does not have an RR channel is pretty much a deregulated road with nobody responsible for maintenance. If there is a maintenance provider, there will be an assigned RR channel.

 

[X-it]

You are wrong. I just came off a logging road that was not on a RR channel. Granted it was posted when entering it but certainly it was not a RR channel. I was dam glad I had the old channels still in my radio. Of coarse I did not know where all the pullouts were so I followed a truck in. As far as they only have one channel...maybe in your trucks but some of those guys have a lot of radios in their rigs. And a lot of them are my radios.

 

[Stompin Tom]

You are wrong. I just came off a logging road that was not on a RR channel. Granted it was posted when entering it but certainly it was not a RR channel. I was dam glad I had the old channels still in my radio. Of coarse I did not know where all the pullouts were so I followed a truck in. As far as they only have one channel...maybe in your trucks but some of those guys have a lot of radios in their rigs. And a lot of them are my radios.

name the road.

I have been hauling for many years, and since the inception of the RR system I have yet to encounter a logging road that does not use the RR channels. If you have one you must be dealing with some VERY low quality loggers. The fine for hauling on a road and not having a RR posted and used channel is substantial, in the 5 figure range. WCB, MoF and BCTS do not screw around with this.

 

[X-it]

6900rd

 

[X-it]

I also noticed this summer several spur rds off the main logging roads with a sign at the start labelling the frequencies only. Those frequencies were not RR channels, i have almost memorized all those numbers.

 

[freeflorider]

RR road channels are mandatory in BC. All though the main lines have RR channels I know lots of contractors will post an in block road frequency that will most likely be use under the old channels.
this way we can chat on the in block channel to direct trucks to different loading sites and other bs. We call our km on that channel in block till we hit the main line then switch to the RRs.

 

[Stompin Tom]

6900rd

So your saying the Bear Lake 6900 road has a posted RR channel but the users are using an unposted channel? There is more to this story. How did you find the unposted channel? were you on the 6900 road when this happened or were you on a spur road?

 

[Stompin Tom]

I also noticed this summer several spur rds off the main logging roads with a sign at the start labelling the frequencies only. Those frequencies were not RR channels, i have almost memorized all those numbers.

Spur roads are a different cookie than a resource road or "main line". There are way to many spur roads to use only 28 RR channels. Most spur roads are private, or one user roads with a road channel posted at the start of the road. With the amount of roads in areas like Bear Lake how could RR channels cover them? WCB RR channels are mandatory and regulated on every maintained resource road, but once you enter a spur road you are now on contractor controlled roads.

 

[Stompin Tom]

RR road channels are mandatory in BC. All though the main lines have RR channels I know lots of contractors will post an in block road frequency that will most likely be use under the old channels.
this way we can chat on the in block channel to direct trucks to different loading sites and other bs. We call our km on that channel in block till we hit the main line then switch to the RRs.

exactly, that is the procedure around here. All resource roads must have an RR channel, but once you enter a spur road you enter the contractors domain. Most of the time the channel on a spur road is the contractors loading channel so the loaderman can have control of traffic entering and leaving the block.

 

[Stompin Tom]

6900rd

were you on the actual 6900 or were you on a branch or spur road and the channel posted on this road, was it a RR channel or a contractor channel?