rzrgade
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Yeah ,he bought it with zero down and no payments for 5 years............
Obummer in for another 4. God help us.
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Yeah ,he bought it with zero down and no payments for 5 years............
byronkentgraham
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Beleive me I'm all for it, I make just enough to pay taxes "Hard" but certainly not enough to have a corporate yacht or challet. I know quite a few "well ticketed" individuals making what I do in Ft Mac. My only saving grace is I don't have to be there. 99% of small buisiness owners basically have a little more freedom in terms of time and thats about it. If the afternoon is nice I've be known to deek out to HHA or Bruderhiem for the afternoon.
As far as comparing health care systems check out what the average US citizen has to pay for ins, and one might find between lower taxes and ins they're prettymuch in the same boat as us.
Romney - Obama , Fork - Spoon They're just poster boys, Democratic society has a hard price to pay and that is greed trumps everything and unfortunately wins all the time. There are paople out there right now scoopin up realestate and other various assets for a song , this is happening on a global scale. When things turn and they always do (its cyclic) us hard worken individuals wind up buyin that 500k house that somebody picked up for 150k or less and sat on for 3 or 4 years. Search Las Vegas Real Estate
On a global scale this is called "foriegn investment" ......Just sayin
JaySimon
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Ah the old "I got mine, fawk you" attitude.
So if work dries up, and you can no longer afford insurance, you deserve a 20K hospital bill? Accidents happen, ch!t happens, it shouldn't cause a person to need to sell their home to get from underneath it.
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DaveB
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Good day....and welcome to yesterday's joke...LOL
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DaveB
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Phuk off willy....
teeroy
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this time he said you were very intelligent and he respects your views...
teeroy
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oops, he went back to calling you vulgar names. sorry
byronkentgraham
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My policies are based not on some economics theory, but on things I and millions like me were brought up with: an honest day’s work for an honest day’s pay; live within your means; put by a nest egg for a rainy day; pay your bills on time; support the police.
If you're not bright enough to save your money, and to not finance yourself to the nuts then yeah fawk you. Why should I have to give up my hard earned money because you're useless? (You does not mean you personally. Unless you're useless. Then fawk you)
JaySimon
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I hear you, on some levels. But honestly, let's say you got cancer and were between gigs. Do you honestly have 125k sitting around for treatment, or would you need to sell your home, thereby leaving your family with less than nothing?
ch!t happens, and I don't feel people should be left homeless due to health reasons. One man's opinion. Would I like to pay less taxes? Yea. Do I like my money going to people on welfare? No. Might something happen that's out of my control and leave me in the hospital? Possibly. Should I forgo owning a home for it? Not in my opinion.
By this point, I'm flogging a dead horse, so I'll leave it at that.
byronkentgraham
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If you are between jobs you should probably buy your own health insurance. The benefits for your next job would not kick in for at least 3 months. Just saying.
JaySimon
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Ever priced out insurance in the states?
Not cheap doesn't begin to explain it. Hell, I could buy a house in Kimberley and pay a comparative amount to a family health care plan in New York state. (Monthly costs at least)
Then, when they find a reason to drop you (Like a major health event) the next guy either won't cover you, or you will be paying an astronomical amount.
And it does happen, insurance companies are in it to make money, and denying claims is one of the ways they do it. As previously mentioned, my old man worked in a health insurance company in New York state, so I'm not talking outta my rear.
It's really great to think "Just buy it then" when you're 25 and healthy, but when life creeps towards 45 or 50 being between jobs and paying for health care can really toss a wrench in things.
Not cheap doesn't begin to explain it. Hell, I could buy a house in Kimberley and pay a comparative amount to a family health care plan in New York state. (Monthly costs at least)
Then, when they find a reason to drop you (Like a major health event) the next guy either won't cover you, or you will be paying an astronomical amount.
And it does happen, insurance companies are in it to make money, and denying claims is one of the ways they do it. As previously mentioned, my old man worked in a health insurance company in New York state, so I'm not talking outta my rear.
It's really great to think "Just buy it then" when you're 25 and healthy, but when life creeps towards 45 or 50 being between jobs and paying for health care can really toss a wrench in things.
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eclipse1966
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I do a fair bit of business in the US and talking with my business colleagues down there they are telling be they are paying between $600 - $1000 per month for a family of 4 on health insurance! Yikes!!!
tukernater
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With probly a $2500 to $5000 Deductable.
rzrgade
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Yes about the same amount they pay less in tax than us.............EX: 80000$ a year x 10% =8000$ or 666 per month.....
Where people get in trouble down there is when they pay less tax and DO NOT put the savings into a Medical insurance plan.
We do not have FREE health care up here,all things considered the costs are roughly the same when you factor all things in. This is Approximate,and there are allways exceptions................However our healthcare is going down hill fast,as indicated by the increase in wait times ETC ETC.
Doctors and Nurses don`t work for free ,nor should they....
The Key is to have AS MANY pay into the system as possible,and not abuse it !!! Which sadly happens in our country way to often......
Where people get in trouble down there is when they pay less tax and DO NOT put the savings into a Medical insurance plan.
We do not have FREE health care up here,all things considered the costs are roughly the same when you factor all things in. This is Approximate,and there are allways exceptions................However our healthcare is going down hill fast,as indicated by the increase in wait times ETC ETC.
Doctors and Nurses don`t work for free ,nor should they....
The Key is to have AS MANY pay into the system as possible,and not abuse it !!! Which sadly happens in our country way to often......
Unfortunately, there are people who don't think like that, and save the $666 and gamble. They get sick, and then there is a big mess. As a society to have these people living amongst us is something I would not want to have. Don't forget there are also people who have mental illnesses, physical attributes that make them not be able to afford insurance,,, etc. sounds liberal like, but in general Canadians have a better all around standard of living... from top to bottom.
Sometimes people regard a doctor's visit as Abuse, and then there are people who consider it as a concern. I am in no way able to make that judgement. I mean the obvious, like having a runny nose and booking an appointment to see the GP vs. someone who thinks they are having a heart attack, and it's just reflux.
Sometimes people regard a doctor's visit as Abuse, and then there are people who consider it as a concern. I am in no way able to make that judgement. I mean the obvious, like having a runny nose and booking an appointment to see the GP vs. someone who thinks they are having a heart attack, and it's just reflux.
Riverjet
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Are you going to explain why it isn't?
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teeroy
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lol..."I know you are, but what am I?"
