Obummer in for another 4. God help us.

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I see...OK, What would you cut then?
Would it be ok if those cuts affected you?

Answer the last question in my post and there in lies your answer!

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Actually balancing the budget is not that difficult if you aren't just trying to get into office every four years. Grow a pair and do what needs to be done. No it will not be the most popular action, but if you are just going to do what's popular, unemployment and the national deficit will continue to rise.

Things to cut off immediately:
Foreign Financial Aid-If they can't take of their own financial situation why should they try to deal with other countries economic situations?
Foreign Military Aid-Yes, there are situations where they should be involved. They should only intervene when their national security or allies are at risk.
Welfare-This can not be completely cut off, but it should be reduced. Drug, alcohol and tobacco tests should be mandatory. This money should go towards the essentials, not getting high or drunk.
Levy Tarrifs-Against Countries like China. Countries that have no regard for environmental standards or human rights. If they improve their environmental record and human rights these tarrifs should be abolished. They should not have economic advantages based soley on destroying our environment and mistreating human beings.
Put prisoners to work-Have them working in in-house factories. Doing basic manufacturing for companies. Why shouldn't they earn their keep? Have them pay what it costs to house, feed and guard them. Any extra can be sent to their families or put into bonds for when they get out. Would give them a good chance to start over, when they get out.

Also one of the biggest things they could do to bolster their economy
Legalize Marijuana-Not to sound like every other loser on the internet, but the amount this would save on law enforcement, and the cost to hold prisoners for these minor crimes is incredible. If you tax it on top of that like alcohol and tobacco, it will further raise revenue.
 

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OK, but that is no where near 1,000,000,000,000

They would move all the money to trying to enforce the drug/alchohol/tobacco/welfare thing, it would probably cost more.(kinda like Canada trying to enforce the gun registry x 100) More crime from people needing to get their fix...etc.

Foreign aid is still essential, because there may someday be a disaster that they need help that will make 911 or Katrina look like a walk in the park.

America relies on china, and to jeopardize trade, it would even make things worse. No one on this continent would be willing to pay more for goods. That's a problem right there. Everyone bitches about human rights, and environmental issues, but loves their big screen TV's and ipad's too much. For China to comply, things would be 10X the price.... no one spending. It's an ugly circle.

I like the prison thing, Maybe they could pay them like Chinese workers.

Taxing weed... DHEWD!!!! Maybe decriminalizing for possession, that's about it. I think you will still see people trafficking their own chit. Not sure if a drug runner would file for taxes to the IRS. Enforcement would just turn to that.





Actually balancing the budget is not that difficult if you aren't just trying to get into office every four years. Grow a pair and do what needs to be done. No it will not be the most popular action, but if you are just going to do what's popular, unemployment and the national deficit will continue to rise.

Things to cut off immediately:
Foreign Financial Aid-If they can't take of their own financial situation why should they try to deal with other countries economic situations?
Foreign Military Aid-Yes, there are situations where they should be involved. They should only intervene when their national security or allies are at risk.
Welfare-This can not be completely cut off, but it should be reduced. Drug, alcohol and tobacco tests should be mandatory. This money should go towards the essentials, not getting high or drunk.
Levy Tarrifs-Against Countries like China. Countries that have no regard for environmental standards or human rights. If they improve their environmental record and human rights these tarrifs should be abolished. They should not have economic advantages based soley on destroying our environment and mistreating human beings.
Put prisoners to work-Have them working in in-house factories. Doing basic manufacturing for companies. Why shouldn't they earn their keep? Have them pay what it costs to house, feed and guard them. Any extra can be sent to their families or put into bonds for when they get out. Would give them a good chance to start over, when they get out.

Also one of the biggest things they could do to bolster their economy
Legalize Marijuana-Not to sound like every other loser on the internet, but the amount this would save on law enforcement, and the cost to hold prisoners for these minor crimes is incredible. If you tax it on top of that like alcohol and tobacco, it will further raise revenue.
 

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Cuso, did you read the first part of his post? He said it would be painful and not the best way to be reelected. Also, taxing legal mj has been done for years (not sure on exact time period) now in Colorado and seems to be working.
 

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He spent his way out of a recession or maybe a depression. Bailing out the big banks. Saved dodge and Gm. That's just a start. Iwill never be sure who would have been the best for this term. One thing I'm sure off is Romney doesn't believe the ch!t coming out of his own mouth. So how can the people. Obama is straight up. Romney is a 2 faced lying dick backed by a bunch of rich old republicans who still believe wars are won with bombs. IMO
Are you high? It's like a family...mortgaged to the hilt, bank loans on two cars and an RV, and 7 credit cards maxxed out. They go see Obummer the financial planner and his solution is to give them another credit card. He "saved GM and Dodge"...BAWAHAHAHAHA. Spending to get out of a recession is like digging to make a smaller hole.

Romney wouldn't be my favorite person, but he was by far the lesser of two evils.

Cuso: that's nice that Obummer gave 22% of his earings to charity. What was his job? How did he earn that money? What was his job before that?

He will go down as the biggest scam in US history....mark my words.
 

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I'm not sure if there is an answer to the States economic troubles, Dave's correct, spending your way out of debt with borrowed money is akin to pissing your pants to keep warm,
The US is speeding towards the "economic cliff in a Chinese built car that they haven't made a payment on in years..
 

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I must be reading something different.. LOL He said it would be easy. It's not.

It would be a guarantee to not be re-elected. Then your back to square one in 4 years. That's the problem. Living high on the hog has to end.



Yes, medicinal MJ but not recreational.

an article.


Cuso, did you read the first part of his post? He said it would be painful and not the best way to be reelected. Also, taxing legal mj has been done for years (not sure on exact time period) now in Colorado and seems to be working.
 

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The auto industry is a cornerstone to the U.S. economy. It had to be saved. about 10% of all american jobs rely on it in one way or another.

Also the Sub Prime Mortgage crisis plays a big role in how the economy tumbled too, those burdens don't just disappear in 4 years...That was bad regulating from the government and will haunt them for years to come... That is one reason why Canada is in much better shape than the U.S. Our Mortgage laws were tighter..
 

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If you were to force inmates to work for peanuts, you're taking away jobs from people in society that need them.

Perhaps not imprisoning as much of your population as you possibly can would lower said costs.

Romney sure is anti immigration for a first generation immigrant. His old man was mexican. Their family moved there to continue with plural marriage.

Separation of the church and state should be paramount, with Romney in, I don't feel that would get the respect it deserves.

The Mexican Mormon War (Drug Cartels vs. Mormons Full Length) - YouTube

This was a pretty funny watch.
 

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Are you high? It's like a family...mortgaged to the hilt, bank loans on two cars and an RV, and 7 credit cards maxxed out. They go see Obummer the financial planner and his solution is to give them another credit card. He "saved GM and Dodge"...BAWAHAHAHAHA. Spending to get out of a recession is like digging to make a smaller hole.

Romney wouldn't be my favorite person, but he was by far the lesser of two evils.

Cuso: that's nice that Obummer gave 22% of his earings to charity. What was his job? How did he earn that money? What was his job before that?

He will go down as the biggest scam in US history....mark my words.
First off. Have you been listening to trump. Obama is American. Always was American. They tried to find dirt on him and couldn't cause there isn't any. But it sure diddnt take long to prove Romney had tax free money throughout the world. The bailout of America is different than a family in debt borrowing more money. If America lost the auto industry and big banks they would hit rock bottom so fast and took us with them. The car was stalled. Obama push started it and now has 4 more years to get up to speed. I hope he can.
 

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first off. Have you been listening to trump. Obama is american. Always was american. They tried to find dirt on him and couldn't cause there isn't any. But it sure diddnt take long to prove romney had tax free money throughout the world. The bailout of america is different than a family in debt borrowing more money. If america lost the auto industry and big banks they would hit rock bottom so fast and took us with them. The car was stalled. Obama push started it and now has 4 more years to get up to speed. I hope he can.

i sure hope you're right.......... God speed, obama
 

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First off. Have you been listening to trump. Obama is American. Always was American. They tried to find dirt on him and couldn't cause there isn't any. But it sure diddnt take long to prove Romney had tax free money throughout the world. The bailout of America is different than a family in debt borrowing more money. If America lost the auto industry and big banks they would hit rock bottom so fast and took us with them. The car was stalled. Obama push started it and now has 4 more years to get up to speed. I hope he can.

If they can`t pay back the money they owe now ,HOW can borrowing more help..........?????? SOONER OR LATER IT HAS TO BE PAID BACK !!!! If they can`t pay back the money, what do you think happens ffs.......
They are broke,instead of cutting back ,O`s answer is to borrow more...........You do realize they are just printing money and have no resources to back it up..........
Meanwhile the financial cliff is getting closer,they will fall over it on Obama`s watch.....

On a positive note ,we are very fortunate to have Harper running the show or we would be in the same boat......!!!!
 

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the US problems are a lot deeper than the figurehead they choose to be the "leader". the election is superficial, the country is not run by democrats or republicans....it's dictated by big business and the federal reserve.
 

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Ah hold it just one second, Harper wasn't responsible for the banking system being in as good a shape as it is. He wanted to loosen the rules just like the states had done, he only had a minority government. The Liberals had kept the tight controls on. Lets keep our facts straight shall we? Yes I know that some of our past Liberal members were not on the up an up. Mulroney ring a bell? Good discussion though. You couldn't have a discussion like this in the state as Trump would go all spidermonkey in his tweets, The Yanks hold up for idolization the most obnoxious and weird people possible.
 

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Harper is turning out to be a dud IMO. His secrecy is too much for this guy to feel comfortable running our country. Unfortunately we dont have any one else that is any better :(


If they can`t pay back the money they owe now ,HOW can borrowing more help..........?????? SOONER OR LATER IT HAS TO BE PAID BACK !!!! If they can`t pay back the money, what do you think happens ffs.......
They are broke,instead of cutting back ,O`s answer is to borrow more...........You do realize they are just printing money and have no resources to back it up..........
Meanwhile the financial cliff is getting closer,they will fall over it on Obama`s watch.....

On a positive note ,we are very fortunate to have Harper running the show or we would be in the same boat......!!!!
 

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But where would all the "people of Walmart" go? The streets would be filled with fashion faux pas !!



One easy solution........ shut down Walmart with all the crap they sell from China! Can you imagine the jobs that would be created.
 
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