Mud bogging banned in bc

[mudhunter]

I agree we bend over for industry, pay through the nose and if we make a rut in the dirt they start all the red tape... (I don't agree with using the outdoors as your personal dump)

I pack garbage bags with me...

 

[ferniesnow]

what, they can log it bare as a babies ass and taxpayers cant use it too? I say if its not a protected area then give'er.....:d

and then for sure it will be a protected area and we loose again! That's real smart.

The rules have been made because a**hats are tearing up the back country; plain and simple. I can take you to ruts that are 15 years old. Sure the grass has grown back but the ruts are still there and will be there for a long time.

I know all the arguments about the horse trails, the trouble the cows cause on the range land, the logging companies, the oil and gas industry and the miners. As said above, if they don't follow their rules the fines are huge and so it should be with ATVs.

Loggers have to put in bridges/culverts to cross streams so that sediment doesn't disturb the fish and spawning. As nice as it is to go and get into the mud to cross the stream with an ATV there is environmental damage and the sooner we realize it the better off we'll be.

I could go on and on. I just wished they would really enforce the crap out of the legislation and bring on the fines and the helicopters for confiscation. Then maybe people would realize that we have to start conforming.

That's my rant.....the rest of you can get at it!

 

[leonard]

they put in bridges. but if you have ever hunted in your life or went deep into the back doors of alberta..lol.. bridge? are you fking kidding me have you ever seen whats left of a clear cut?

holy smokes they pay alot to do it..which is equivalent to hush $ imho. so what if they pay alot for the privileged to do 1,000,000x more damage in 1 day than all the atvs in the world can do in 10 years in a equal fair comparison they bribed the right office to do so right?

yet we pay min 1500$ a year taxes. wait whats that times a few million? i bet its alot more than the forest industry or oilfield gave in their lump sums.

don't kid yourselves the only reason were even looked at is because were weak targets that can be pushed around.

personally im debating a nitros bottle and a blacked out licence plate as a alternative.

good luck catching me.

 

[LID]

personally im debating a nitros bottle and a blacked out licence plate as a alternative.

good luck catching me.

Whether you're joking or not, that's the genius attitude that (along with weekend punter garbage and burnt couches) will keep getting our areas closed. Keep up the good work!

 

[growly]

Ive always said the foot print we leave as ATV'ers is so small its almost a joke they come after us.

Yea...........was quadding around Grand Prairie this week and the one spot I saw on the power line were guys were bogging the holes were at least 4' deep,there were trails cut through the surrounding forest to get around all the holes and there was even broken winch cable laying around. Didn't look like a small foot print to me.

 

[magnet]

Yea...........was quadding around Grand Prairie this week and the one spot I saw on the power line were guys were bogging the holes were at least 4' deep,there were trails cut through the surrounding forest to get around all the holes and there was even broken winch cable laying around. Didn't look like a small foot print to me.

yeh but in a couple months they will be gone and you wont even know they were there
what the f is that guy thinking. like it has been said before you wanna make big bog hole buy your own f'n land.
i have a big issue with this though and the site as i have posted my opinion on this before and threads go tdeleted. we allpreach be nice to the land and respect it etc, cross creeks in one spot, slowwly not ripping up the bed etc, then we promote and post videos of members ripping up the bog holes and running up down the creeks to clean their machines.

practice what you preach or we will all have nowhere to ride except private land in the future.
just sayin guys and gals.:d

 

[glengine]

I don't know about that!! If you go up into the alpine and rut it up it takes years to heal. There are places that you can mud bogging on, and the alpine is not one of them.

Exactly.. Alot of people dont realize that if you tear up a section of the alpine it will take it about 100years to regrow and it will never be the same as it was before. I love gettin up into the alpine myself and we used to dirtbike all over the microwave in the summer, but when in the alpine you stay on the existing trail, no exception. It's like around mcbride i'd love to have trails up in the mtn's here so you could go around and check out the scenery in the summer on a quad or dirtbike, but you have to go thru the alpine and even if there was a trail i guarantee you that not everyone would stay on the trail. So that would wreck it for all and the area's would get closed.

 

[KWIK RACING INC.]

SRD in alberta is going to put a ban on fluz's here too. the ground is just too soft and so much damage would be done..... just imagine if these area's would be closed for ever... then where would we ride?


alberta has 11 or 12 fluz"s and a lot of them will probably be closing for a month or so starting on the long weekend...... stay tuned for announcements.

 

[whitegold]

Yea...........was quadding around Grand Prairie this week and the one spot I saw on the power line were guys were bogging the holes were at least 4' deep,there were trails cut through the surrounding forest to get around all the holes and there was even broken winch cable laying around. Didn't look like a small foot print to me.

Ya know.... around here most of the mud bogging is done under the power lines.... and I think that is the only place, other then private property, that it is aloud. I work with gov't officers and I've never heard anyone complain about that..... I'm going to check into this....

 

[MATTIAC]

Ya know.... around here most of the mud bogging is done under the power lines.... and I think that is the only place, other then private property, that it is aloud. I work with gov't officers and I've never heard anyone complain about that..... I'm going to check into this....

and even at that there is still creeks and what not to cross

 

[Flatlander_01]

So they can run a pipeline through jasper a protected park ,you can create a clear cut so big it's visible from space but you better be prepared if you have a few and show your buddy how it's done? the communist province of b.c all hail christy clark

 

[leonard]

Whether you're joking or not, that's the genius attitude that (along with weekend punter garbage and burnt couches) will keep getting our areas closed. Keep up the good work!

yes i was joking but quite honestly i don't think it has anything to do with garbage and burnt couches thats just people using mother nature as a garbage dump aka people intentionally loading up the truck and dumping ch!t in the bush.
Whitecourt had a problem like that out in the sand hills im pretty sure you cant blame a 10 foot pile of garbage 50m x 50m area on ATV's

I don't think any amount of clean up or rallying will help us out of this one the only way to keep trails open is do like the oilfield / Loggers and line some politicians pockets up the chain so they look the other way.

 

[leonard]

And obviously there is a difference between building a monster truck and making 5 foot deep ruts every time and a Quad that at max makes some ruts 1 foot deep SOMETIMES.

Ive also seen what the trucks can do on the 2 years i went up to may lakes on may long weekend pretty hard to try and deny the damage those trucks can do on a weekend no such thing as crossing a skeg bed without just trenching it to the bottom either.

 

[LID]

yes i was joking but quite honestly i don't think it has anything to do with garbage and burnt couches thats just people using mother nature as a garbage dump aka people intentionally loading up the truck and dumping ch!t in the bush.
Whitecourt had a problem like that out in the sand hills im pretty sure you cant blame a 10 foot pile of garbage 50m x 50m area on ATV's

I don't think any amount of clean up or rallying will help us out of this one the only way to keep trails open is do like the oilfield / Loggers and line some politicians pockets up the chain so they look the other way.

Down our way at McLean and Waiprous it wasn't dumping, it was long weekend partiers that were making all the mess. Burnt couches, burnt stolen cars, and TONS of garbage after every long weekend. People just hammered driving the station wagon into the river, etc. One thing that helped keep the mess to a minimum the last few years was BIG enforcement. I don't think any SRD, RCMP, or Forest Fire guys had the long weekends off last year. At first thought it seemed a bit out of hand but it worked. They were all over the place out there but the area was way cleaner than other years.

 

[rzrgade]

A little off topic but it does relate indirectly : Has anyone ever put a dollar value on what we put into the economy ? Take a look at the Big horn on a long weekend...Let`s take a wild guess..say 300 camping units @ roughly 100,000 a pop seems like a good guess. YES that`s right THIRTY MILLION DOLLARS !!, now times that by the whole province and consider the economic spin off we create...

We have more power than we realize , i think... Close it all down and TRUST ME lots of people are lookin for a new job !!!!!!

 

[MATTIAC]

And obviously there is a difference between building a monster truck and making 5 foot deep ruts every time and a Quad that at max makes some ruts 1 foot deep SOMETIMES.

Ive also seen what the trucks can do on the 2 years i went up to may lakes on may long weekend pretty hard to try and deny the damage those trucks can do on a weekend no such thing as crossing a skeg bed without just trenching it to the bottom either.

just look at your avatar.

 

[leonard]

yea thats out on the eagle river trails when it was really wet like 3 or 4 years ago you might remember just how wet it was.

go there now and it looks nothing like that nor is it deep like that anymore.

between fall and spring when you go back to eagle river trails they are typically all settled down and normal again so i don't see your point.

there is obviously areas that are still and always will be mucky but its a 15x 30 stretch that stays that way.

 

[MATTIAC]

yea thats out on the eagle river trails when it was really wet like 3 or 4 years ago you might remember just how wet it was.

go there now and it looks nothing like that nor is it deep like that anymore.

between fall and spring when you go back to eagle river trails they are typically all settled down and normal again so i don't see your point.

there is obviously areas that are still and always will be mucky but its a 15x 30 stretch that stays that way.

My point is you have a fully built quad for swamping, your avatar shows you swamping, and you stated in your earlier post quads make a 1' rut, and trucks make the big ruts. like it or not. and im not trying to fight you or argue against you, I grew up running bogs, cutting in trails, making the biggest ruts I could. my truck blows lots of black smoke, i am no better then anyone else, nor do I like or support greenpeace (bunch of tree huggen queers) so getting back to my point, its hard to make a claim or statement being in favor of what you do, when you have a picture of you tearing up the bogs and have a snorkled quad that aids in you doing so. I guess the only problem I have is the ignorance so many ppl have in regards to this