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Sorry no videos, and from my point of view there's not much to tell, simply from having no memory of it for the most part, but I'll tell my side, and then fill in with what I was told.

This happened summer of '08. My wife and I had just purchased an acreage and built a house the previous fall, and decided we should have a house warming party that summer. Was a hot day and I spent it cutting grass and tidying up the yard, getting ready for the festivities. Family and friends started showing up late afternoon early evening and things were going well. I was hot, dehydrated and thirsty and Corona's became my best friend. All was good until my one neighbour shows up riding his Honda Canadian trail edition around 8 or so. We end up getting into a discussion about quads and he proceeded on telling why his Honda was such a superior machine and my new Grizzly 700 was inferior. After listening to this for about 20 min or so I told my son to go get me my keys, and I proceeded on showing him he was wrong. Many Corona's had been consumed at this point and my judgement was fairly compromised at this point. Tired to pull a wheelie at some point and was having issues with the tires hooking up in the grass, so took the grizzly out to the main road which hardtop. Pulled some good wheelies there, dragging the back rack and all. When I was done with that I came back around the backside of my yard and went over my excessively large sewer mound and pulled a wheelie down the back side, with the intent if parking for the night. That's where the huge gap in memory begins. Next thing I remember was a guy saying "Come on Greg, lets just get in the ambulance and we'll talk fire dept stuff". I said okay. At one point of the normally 15 min drive to town I remember asking how long will it take to get there, Then blank again. Next was being in the hospital. I remember giving a urine sample, having x-rays taken, looking at said x-rays and the balance showing me a mangled neck brace/collar. And my right shoulder hurting immensely. Docs wanted me to stay overnight for observation, no way I was staying so I had to sign a release paper. Right arm wouldn't work to get the pen up on the counter and sign my name so I used my left hand to push my right around. Then I went home.

Here's what I've been told of the account. For whatever reason, everyone there must of felt I was still competent and not all that drunk so riding quad wasn't a big deal and no one stepped in to stop me. And there was sober peeps there so it wasn't like everyone's judgement was impaired.

Anyways as I came over the sewer mound, there was a sunken trench which is what I hit. The front wheels coming down perfectly in the trench. Never rolled or flipped the quad. Hit it at an angle so the handlebars twisted, wrenching my body backwards and sideways. It was at that point I knocked myself out cause it looked like I just fell off the quad. Didn't stick my hands out or nothing to save myself from the fall everyone was freaking out, especially my mother cause she believed she had just watched her son die. There were three RN's there that night so I was in good hands at least. I was unconscious for about 10 min apparently. When I came to I apparently asked repeatedly on where I was and what happened. Of course 911 was called, and the whole Calvary of fire dept, police and ambulance showed up. I was loaded onto the spine board and strapped down with the collar and the little blocks to stabilize my head and the spider straps. I was a normal patient still at that point, right up till they decided to load me in the back of the ambulance. I was having none of that. It took them 45 minutes to get me loaded in. I put up a good struggle. At one point in time one if the RCMP tried to bodily subdue me by holding down on the stretcher. That's when my brother got mad and grabbed the cop by the scruff of his neck and tossed him. That apparently ended up in calling for backup and pepper spray threats. I apparently threw my wife in her attempts to plead with me to get in the ambulance. It wasn't until the fire chief said lets talk fire dept that I actually allowed myself to be loaded. I was a member of a neighbouring town fire dept for 11 years and thats why he said that to me. At the hospital, when asked for a urine sample apparently I told them they ain't gonna find nothin in that except for maybe a dozen Mexicans.

I'm sure there are parts I'm still missing. I ended up with a majorly severe concussion and a dislocated/separated right shoulder. Never have felt so much pain Between my head feeling literally like it would explode the next day and my whole right shoulder feeling like it was ripped apart. It's a journey I have no intentions of doing again. Learned my lesson, perhaps, still ride hard, u bet, but I'm smarter about it now.
 
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Sorry no videos, and from my point of view there's not much to tell, simply from having no memory of it for the most part, but I'll tell my side, and then fill in with what I was told.

This happened summer of '08. My wife and I had just purchased an acreage and built a house the previous fall, and decided we should have a house warming party that summer. Was a hot day and I spent it cutting grass and tidying up the yard, getting ready for the festivities. Family and friends started showing up late afternoon early evening and things were going well. I was hot, dehydrated and thirsty and Corona's became my best friend. All was good until my one neighbour shows up riding his Honda Canadian trail edition around 8 or so. We end up getting into a discussion about quads and he proceeded on telling why his Honda was such a superior machine and my new Grizzly 700 was inferior. After listening to this for about 20 min or so I told my son to go get me my keys, and I proceeded on showing him he was wrong. Many Corona's had been consumed at this point and my judgement was fairly compromised at this point. Tired to pull a wheelie at some point and was having issues with the tires hooking up in the grass, so took the grizzly out to the main road which hardtop. Pulled some good wheelies there, dragging the back rack and all. When I was done with that I came back around the backside of my yard and went over my excessively large sewer mound and pulled a wheelie down the back side, with the intent if parking for the night. That's where the huge gap in memory begins. Next thing I remember was a guy saying "Come on Greg, lets just get in the ambulance and we'll talk fire dept stuff". I said okay. At one point of the normally 15 min drive to town I remember asking how long will it take to get there, Then blank again. Next was being in the hospital. I remember giving a urine sample, having x-rays taken, looking at said x-rays and the balance showing me a mangled neck brace/collar. And my right shoulder hurting immensely. Docs wanted me to stay overnight for observation, no way I was staying so I had to sign a release paper. Right arm wouldn't work to get the pen up on the counter and sign my name so I used my left hand to push my right around. Then I went home.

Here's what I've been told of the account. For whatever reason, everyone there must of felt I was still competent and not all that drunk so riding quad wasn't a big deal and no one stepped in to stop me. And there was sober peeps there so it wasn't like everyone's judgement was impaired.

Anyways as I came over the sewer mound, there was a sunken trench which is what I hit. The front wheels coming down perfectly in the trench. Never rolled or flipped the quad. Hit it at an angle so the handlebars twisted, wrenching my body backwards and sideways. It was at that point I knocked myself out cause it looked like I just fell off the quad. Didn't stick my hands out or nothing to save myself from the fall everyone was freaking out, especially my mother cause she believed she had just watched her son die. There were three RN's there that night so I was in good hands at least. I was unconscious for about 10 min apparently. When I came to I apparently asked repeatedly on where I was and what happened. Of course 911 was called, and the whole Calvary of fire dept, police and ambulance showed up. I was loaded onto the spine board and strapped down with the collar and the little blocks to stabilize my head and the spider straps. I was a normal patient still at that point, right up till they decided to load me in the back of the ambulance. I was having none of that. It took them 45 minutes to get me loaded in. I put up a good struggle. At one point in time one if the RCMP tried to bodily subdue me by holding down on the stretcher. That's when my brother got mad and grabbed the cop by the scruff of his neck and tossed him. That apparently ended up in calling for backup and pepper spray threats. I apparently threw my wife in her attempts to plead with me to get in the ambulance. It wasn't until the fire chief said lets talk fire dept that I actually allowed myself to be loaded. I was a member of a neighbouring town fire dept for 11 years and thats why he said that to me. At the hospital, when asked for a urine sample apparently I told them they ain't gonna find nothin in that except for maybe a dozen Mexicans.

I'm sure there are parts I'm still missing. I ended up with a majorly severe concussion and a dislocated/separated right shoulder. Never have felt so much pain Between my head feeling literally like it would explode the next day and my whole right shoulder feeling like it was ripped apart. It's a journey I have no intentions of doing again. Learned my lesson, perhaps, still ride hard, u bet, but I'm smarter about it now.

HOLY SMOKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I use this in my article??? I won't use your real name... but wowee!! and parts of it Baa ha ha ha haaa... and other parts.. PHEW... then of course the ole.. "face palm"..

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hey Corona's are my friend. Dont be blaming them! :beer: Great story and glad it didnt end and you are still standing on this planet.


Sorry no videos, and from my point of view there's not much to tell, simply from having no memory of it for the most part, but I'll tell my side, and then fill in with what I was told.

This happened summer of '08. My wife and I had just purchased an acreage and built a house the previous fall, and decided we should have a house warming party that summer. Was a hot day and I spent it cutting grass and tidying up the yard, getting ready for the festivities. Family and friends started showing up late afternoon early evening and things were going well. I was hot, dehydrated and thirsty and Corona's became my best friend. All was good until my one neighbour shows up riding his Honda Canadian trail edition around 8 or so. We end up getting into a discussion about quads and he proceeded on telling why his Honda was such a superior machine and my new Grizzly 700 was inferior. After listening to this for about 20 min or so I told my son to go get me my keys, and I proceeded on showing him he was wrong. Many Corona's had been consumed at this point and my judgement was fairly compromised at this point. Tired to pull a wheelie at some point and was having issues with the tires hooking up in the grass, so took the grizzly out to the main road which hardtop. Pulled some good wheelies there, dragging the back rack and all. When I was done with that I came back around the backside of my yard and went over my excessively large sewer mound and pulled a wheelie down the back side, with the intent if parking for the night. That's where the huge gap in memory begins. Next thing I remember was a guy saying "Come on Greg, lets just get in the ambulance and we'll talk fire dept stuff". I said okay. At one point of the normally 15 min drive to town I remember asking how long will it take to get there, Then blank again. Next was being in the hospital. I remember giving a urine sample, having x-rays taken, looking at said x-rays and the balance showing me a mangled neck brace/collar. And my right shoulder hurting immensely. Docs wanted me to stay overnight for observation, no way I was staying so I had to sign a release paper. Right arm wouldn't work to get the pen up on the counter and sign my name so I used my left hand to push my right around. Then I went home.

Here's what I've been told of the account. For whatever reason, everyone there must of felt I was still competent and not all that drunk so riding quad wasn't a big deal and no one stepped in to stop me. And there was sober peeps there so it wasn't like everyone's judgement was impaired.

Anyways as I came over the sewer mound, there was a sunken trench which is what I hit. The front wheels coming down perfectly in the trench. Never rolled or flipped the quad. Hit it at an angle so the handlebars twisted, wrenching my body backwards and sideways. It was at that point I knocked myself out cause it looked like I just fell off the quad. Didn't stick my hands out or nothing to save myself from the fall everyone was freaking out, especially my mother cause she believed she had just watched her son die. There were three RN's there that night so I was in good hands at least. I was unconscious for about 10 min apparently. When I came to I apparently asked repeatedly on where I was and what happened. Of course 911 was called, and the whole Calvary of fire dept, police and ambulance showed up. I was loaded onto the spine board and strapped down with the collar and the little blocks to stabilize my head and the spider straps. I was a normal patient still at that point, right up till they decided to load me in the back of the ambulance. I was having none of that. It took them 45 minutes to get me loaded in. I put up a good struggle. At one point in time one if the RCMP tried to bodily subdue me by holding down on the stretcher. That's when my brother got mad and grabbed the cop by the scruff of his neck and tossed him. That apparently ended up in calling for backup and pepper spray threats. I apparently threw my wife in her attempts to plead with me to get in the ambulance. It wasn't until the fire chief said lets talk fire dept that I actually allowed myself to be loaded. I was a member of a neighbouring town fire dept for 11 years and thats why he said that to me. At the hospital, when asked for a urine sample apparently I told them they ain't gonna find nothin in that except for maybe a dozen Mexicans.

I'm sure there are parts I'm still missing. I ended up with a majorly severe concussion and a dislocated/separated right shoulder. Never have felt so much pain Between my head feeling literally like it would explode the next day and my whole right shoulder feeling like it was ripped apart. It's a journey I have no intentions of doing again. Learned my lesson, perhaps, still ride hard, u bet, but I'm smarter about it now.
 

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To much throttle at the wrong time going uphill. wrong gear and shifting down at the wrong time going uphill. Not leaning forward on hill climbs. Momma you know one more thing about new riders and ripping up mud.
 

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borrowing it to your buddy.. took it for a day trip with the wife.. come back with front and rear fenders sheared off and blown cv.. 3000.00 later... never again lol..
 

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To much throttle at the wrong time going uphill. wrong gear and shifting down at the wrong time going uphill. Not leaning forward on hill climbs. Momma you know one more thing about new riders and ripping up mud.

Yup can't forget about mud riding, that's strictly forbidden


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Yup can't forget about mud riding, that's strictly forbidden


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SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.............. do not speak that which should not be spoken of.... I freakin do NOT want an exorcism today please... I have wayyyyy to much to accomplish............ I was talking safety. The article is about safety. Someone needs to be handed an infraction for getting off topic... :p and it is not you carrots. High five good game bum slap buddy!
 

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Not showing a newbie about the machine, The brakes, the kill switch and the reserve setting on a fuel tank. Too many newbies just get on and ride and have no way of knowing how to shut off the damn machine.
 

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well...

no.1 seperate braking is always better than one lever does all... Why? ....when going up hill and you have to stop on steep hill ..the front brake is your friend.. this way you can have the fronts on and ease on the backs as you let off the front.. now you have steering backwards at least.. with the front brakes on you have a sliding quad...

also when stopped on a hill, let your self down backwards till you reach a flat spot that you can turn around on.. to many panic and turn the steering wheel and quad goes sideways and then rolls....

no. 2 when going down hill, us with cvt's have it sort of easy... the quad brakes for you.. you ever think its good to learn who to compenstate for no clutch braking and having to go down a steep incline with front and rear break control.. this is where a single lever is dangurous... seperate braking starting always wity front brake when braking downhill.. rear braking can cause side slide and rolling... without any engine braking you can take a seperate lever quad down the steepest incline inch by inch with no panic.... but the clutch cheats for us..lol

no.3 speed is always your friend.. mite sound not right but when in a perdickument( and i cant spell either ) lol id rather jump a little incline or such then have the quad throw me off from tipping and then falling on me... speed is always your friend when going up hill... moementum is the key... you can really amaze yourself on what these quads can climb if you stay on the gas...

no.4 for the 4 wheel drive machines 4x4 is always better than 2x4 when racing down the trail.. escpecalliy when its wet a bit.. you can control power slides way better in corners.. when its dry and you like the feel of the slide more then use 2 x 4 ..when racing.. 4 x 4 if you have it....this is for woods riding.. on a mx track its better in 2x4

and last one i can think about right now is..if you ride aggressivly give some body english to your ride unstead of sitting there like a dead log....lmao
just kidding all you that do that..haha but it does help alot in aggressive riding situations...

oh forgot to mention throttle control is something you learn over time.. your not born with it..lol
 
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Doubling on a single pass machine or at all until semi experienced.
X2, doubling on single rider machine's.
Speed on machines actualy design for slow travel.
FRECKIN not wearing a HELMUT. A large percentage of people that ride atv's figure helmut's are for other uses. 99.99% of sledders wear them.....so what's your problem NEWBIE. Maybe there is a inherited large percentage of atv owner's out there that have a hollow empty spot between the ears.
 

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Hi guys,
We've been setting many newbies up with ATVs lately. Many of you have an infinite amount of seat time compared to myself. I'd like to write an article profiling the most common operator errors ATV riders can make.

Thank you in advance.

Trish :D

You can write all the article in the world but fact is a vast majority will not read it. Most all basic atv safe operation can be found with the purchase of a new atv (owners manual) seldom read or even looked at.
Most dealers now offer a basic course with the purchase also. For used atv owner's that are willing to take the time the info is available.

If your going to write an article, maybe writing on how responsible atving is every bodies business and responsibility.
Joining a club, riding on designated trails, caring for the enviroment, wearing safety equitment ect. ect.

Here is an observation i made a long time ago and a question to ask.
Why do sledder's, most all 99.99% wear helmuts while riding on snow...haha. and atver's have a problem with helmut's while riding on solid ground.
Maybe forums like this and writen articles for atv operators need to spend more time educating their public. Maybe also look at the sledder group as a fine example to fallow.

Riding techniques comes ONLY with time, the #1 priority should be propper ethics of the sport for any newbie and anyone in the sport.
 

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The safest mode you can do....get those tires exact, measure them in, it also stops grinding metal.
 

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no. 2 when going down hill, ........... seperate braking starting always wity front brake when braking downhill..

I absolutely, positively, strongly have to disagree with that one. Did that on a small hill with mine last year and woke up with a quad laying upside down across my chest after it chucked me over the bars. Thank god for my teck vest. Managed to push it off me, but I couldn't get up for 20 minutes. Couldn't hardly walk or breath for 2 weeks. Pretty sure I broke my left index finger. Scattered chainsaw, gas cans, and a ton of other crap everywhere. Worst I've ever been hurt on a motorized toy......well, maybe the garage door incident was worse:eek:, but I don't EVER wanna flip a quad forwards again. There's no getting away from them!
 

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Not looking in the direction of travel. This guy was backing up. The guy behind him wasn't. Actually, he wasn't even on his quad....he was standing in front of him saying WTF! They were trying to get untangled when I finally got the camera out. Rode the back wheel of the red one right up between the bars on the white one.

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Not looking in the direction of travel. This guy was backing up. The guy behind him wasn't. Actually, he wasn't even on his quad....he was standing in front of him saying WTF! They were trying to get untangled when I finally got the camera out. Rode the back wheel of the red one right up between the bars on the white one.

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Oh Man!!! Can you forward this pic to my editor? kirsten@kpimedia.com Thank you!

Thank you so much for all the info peeps!!
 
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