It seems to depend on the day you go to the dealer if you will get a good price, or the runaround. Made a deal on a 5500 today, provided they can get me the financing terms I want. $80k sticker, $56k+taxes and fees pretty happy with the deal, and that's giving me $6k for my trade, which is generous they will be losing a few bucks on it. Only bummer is my work truck will be nicer then my run around truck, thing is loaded with just about every option. Will pull the gooseneck a lot better though.