Hey Maxwell!

[arff]

Well it’s minus 22 and while waiting for Nascar I spend 2 1/2 hours reading this thread.

Very good,,keep it going.

When it warms up you better all go riding.

 

[niner]

HeYmaN i herd youR quite the fisherMaN.. word on the street is youR a master - BaiTeR cause youR the onLY 1 who can puT youR BaiT on the HooK -eRs... Rhodesie R U MasTer - BaiTing on the HooK -eRs agaiN... canT Ya jusT waiT till Ya GeT HoME and GiVE youR old LaDy some of thaT BaBy - BaTTeR.. HoNeY did u wanT FisH n ChiPs again ?? .. oK hun did u need another Load of mY BaBy - BaTTeR... o Rhodesie u HaD me aT TaRTeR SAuCE... a HoY!! caPT Rhodesie haVe Ya eVeR BeeN swallowed uP by the SEA.. MaN ??.. Yes CaPT MarKCos i've swallowed the SEA - MeN.... MY GoD !! .. WhAT THE !!.. No No Rhodesie i SAID haVe ya ever been swallowed up by the SEA... MaN... LMAO ... WicKeD TuNa would be ProuD... HeYman Rhodesie youR breath STiNKs LiKe TuNa .. here try a TiC Tac !! Lmao !!... mr MaxXxWeLL hows youR iTaLian CoFFee this fine morning.. o buy the waY luv youR por- shh - ee... honkK !! honkK !! sleds r loaded time ta RiDE and bash some poW on the fastest factorY 2 stroKe 850 TuRBooo ski - Doo in the wesT... kK - poW !! poW!!... CLowNs ta the LeFT... joKeRs ta the RiGHT...iTs all comic BooKs and BuBBLE GuM !! ...HoTSauce !!! 20,019 vieWs LHF... LoL

https://youtu.be/rITk6utJvRY
this is what I think it would be like meeting ozone in real life.

 

[Longhairfreak]

https://youtu.be/rITk6utJvRY
this is what I think it would be like meeting ozone in real life.

You nailed it.

 

[o zone guy]

https://youtu.be/rITk6utJvRY
this is what I think it would be like meeting ozone in real life.

okK now that was funny siht .. yea Yaa Nailed iT thanks LHF, NiNER and what about letterman's hair ... priceless ....weeeeooooo.. luv snow n mud...eh mr maxXxWeLL.. lmao HeYman i haVe idea ??..lets all go BoWLing in revel stoke .. what O ZoNE c'mon.. okK how bout we go to a MaRs BaR conVentioN... david LeTTeRMaN would be Proud .. lmao ...HoTsauce !!

 

[06 Dragon]

Speaks kind of like Trudeau answering questions!

 

[o zone guy]

so a crunched more numbers on polaris Vs turboo ski doo at elevation... dry weights ..so where doo both sleds meet at critical mass of eleVaTION... the answer is both sleds are almost tied at 3000 ft of eleVaTION...both have almost the same weight Ta poWeR RATIOs at 3000 ft... keep in mind what the experts say ( luke snowtraxXx ,GarreTT ,etc ) that for every 1000 ft u lose 3% horse power ...so.. stock 850 ski - Doo with compensating turboo hp... 468~165hp = 2.836 ratio and polaris stock 850 n/a at 3000FT hp is 146hp.. so.. 415~146hp = 2.842 so the critical mass of eLeVaTION for both these sleds is 3000 Ft... just food for thought when your out there ... KooLBeaNs!!... o HeYman how many parking loTs, CaBiNs ouT there... at 3000Ft ... beeP !! beeP !! mr maxXxWeLL did u need your coffee warmed uP.. LHF did i NaiL iT ... jackK haMMeRs would be Proud... lmao.. HeYman !! Ron Hammers ( truckKer ) herd a rumour ...did u go back to ski -Doo... o and remember ski doo has stock 850 with compensating turboo hp of 165hp up to 8000 ft... that ski foo feeLing !!! THiNK ouTside !!! 20,511 vieWs

 

[maxwell]

so a crunched more numbers on polaris Vs turboo ski doo at elevation... dry weights ..so where doo both sleds meet at critical mass ... at what elevation... the answer is both sleds at 3000 ft have the same weight Ta poWeR RATIOs... keep in mind what the experts say ( luke snowtraxXx .GarreTT ,etc ) that for every 1000 ft u lose 3% horse power ...so.. turboo stock 850 ski doo 468~165hp = 2.836 ratio and polaris stock 850 n/a at 3000FT hp is 146.. so.. 415~146hp = 2.842 so the critical mass eLeVaTION for both these sleds is 3000 Ft... just food for thought when your out there ... KooLBeaNs

That translates to real world. Makes sense

 

[bobsledder]

now the infomercial man will likely say the vast majority of mountain riders don't crest 3000 ft.

https://sleddermag.com/ski-doo-summit-850-turbo-review/

 

[snopro]

now the infomercial man will say the vast majority of mountain riders don't crest 3000 ft.

Whats the elevation at the Boulder cabin? Lmao! Slim has the tunes playing, the cabins rockin' and most guys only see the trail up and back.

 

[bobsledder]

Whats the elevation at the Boulder cabin? Lmao! Slim has the tunes playing, the cabins rockin' and most guys only see the trail up and back.

haha true but its likely more than 3000 feet

 

[niner]

I guess we know why Cat wasn’t in the shootout....

 

[arff]

whats the elevation at the boulder cabin? Lmao! Slim has the tunes playing, the cabins rockin' and most guys only see the trail up and back.

5400 ft

 

[o zone guy]

so a crunched more numbers on polaris Vs turboo ski doo at elevation... dry weights ..so where doo both sleds meet at critical mass of eleVaTION... the answer is both sleds are almost tied at 3000 ft of eleVaTION...both have almost the same weight Ta poWeR RATIOs at 3000 ft... keep in mind what the experts say ( luke snowtraxXx ,GarreTT ,etc ) that for every 1000 ft u lose 3% horse power ...so.. stock 850 ski - Doo with compensating turboo hp... 468~165hp = 2.836 ratio and polaris stock 850 n/a at 3000FT hp is 146hp.. so.. 415~146hp = 2.842 so the critical mass of eLeVaTION for both these sleds is 3000 Ft... just food for thought when your out there ... KooLBeaNs!!... o HeYman how many parking loTs ouT there... at 3000Ft ... beeP !! beeP !! mr maxXxWeLL did u need your coffee warmed uP.. LHF did i NaiL iT ... jackK haMMeRs would be Proud... lmao.. HeYman !! Ron Hammers ( truckKer ) herd a rumour ...did u go back to ski -Doo... o and remember ski doo has stock 850 with compensating turboo hp of 165hp up to 8000 ft... that ski foo feeLing !!! THiNK ouTside !!! 20,511 vieWs

hmm wonder what elevation is at boulder dome cabin and frisBy cabin seeing that these 2 r most popular... ooPs look aboVe aT post 432... HoTsauce !!

 

[niner]

hmm wonder what elevation is at boulder dome cabin and frisBy cabin seeing that these 2 r most popular

https://youtu.be/Y4ZL-6BDbQw

doo turbo needs to get above 6000’ to really shine.

 

[o zone guy]

https://youtu.be/Y4ZL-6BDbQw

doo turbo needs to get above 6000’ to really shine.

POLARiS stock 850 or any stocK 850 n/a needs to stay below 3000 ft to really SHiNE ... JusT a thoughT.. Thinking ouT loud... BreakKeR 1 NiNeR !! BreakKeR 1 NiNeR !!.. LoL .. ALoHA !! Go aHead .. That's just good stuff .. beeP !! beeP !! HeYman throw another BaRR- BQ on the SHRiMP.. or BreakKeR 1 NiNeR !! BreakKeR 1 NiNeR !!.. head Ta ReVeLSToKE... pick uP a LoaF of MiLkK and a QuarT of Bread aT the Big eDDy marKeT .... VinCE would be proud... honkK ! honkK !!.. while your there graBs me couple MaRs BaRs !! lmao... nice video.. please confirm elevation...Ya know Ya WaNNa... HoTsauce !!

 

[Longhairfreak]

I'd like to see the difference with the 1160. Way more torque than the 850 turbo even at elevation. And a way lighter chassis.

 

[o zone guy]

I'd like to see the difference with the 1160. Way more torque than the 850 turbo even at elevation.

The LeGeND has come ouTa the CaGE .. Now LHF please giVe us Dee -sie- PuLLs some info on this NiNJA TuRTLE o a mean ToRQUE MoNSTER 1160 u speaK of and I crunch the number s ,.. Ya no ya waNNa .. oKK go AHeaD !! Well we're waiTing as Ted knight would say from CaDDy SHacK !! LeT YouR hair down !!! ComB !! comB !!! Huh do guYs sTiLL use comBs ... Brush !! Brush !! The dusT off that TaME TiGER

 

[o zone guy]

The LeGeND has come ouTa the CaGE .. Now LHF please giVe us Dee -sie- PuLLs some info on this NiNJA TuRTLE o a mean ToRQUE MoNSTER 1160 u speaK of and I crunch the number s ,.. Ya no ya waNNa .. oKK go AHeaD !! Well we're waiTing as Ted knight would say from CaDDy SHacK !! LeT YouR hair down !!! ComB !! comB !!! Huh do guYs sTiLL use comBs ... Brush !! Brush !! The dusT off that TaME TiGER

okK LHF I crunched the number i give u the resulTs in a few minutes but iTs gunna be close so hold your breath we gunna take ya up too 8000 FT grab your OxXxYGeN boTTle from GRamPs and some KLenexXx from Grand- Maa !! To the ChoPPeR !! Here we go hang oN !!.. okK LHF i talked ta the TowN CounciL here on snow n mud and they Pulled your file on the dry weights..on the ToRQuE 1160... we know aLreaDy that the TuRBooO ski- doo at 8000 Ft DrY weighT Ta poweR Ratio is 2.83 ... ... so here ya go LHF the numbers comiN uP from the TowN CounciL and its a majority VoTe... here are 1160 Ninja turtle torque monster numbers... 440 dry weight with 200 hp at sea level... so now at 8000 ft 440 dry weight 152 hp so 440 ~ 152 hp = 2.89.. close 2nd place.. so looks like if ya came in wiT a DrY weight of 430 pounds...u would haVe a 2.83 raTio... TheN iT would be a TiE at 8000 ft .. LHF PRoVE The TowN CounciL oTherwise .. bacK ta the ChoP -her -SHoP ta lose some weighT off the 1160 Ninja TuRTLE TorQuE monsTer .. ALoHa !! 20,860 vieWs.. O HEYman what would it cosT too lose THE LAST 10 pounds min $500 a pound ???... Hmmmm !!! Call JeNNy CraiG... kK - BooM !! O HeYman maybe CHoP the MoP ToP twisted sisTer Doo and GeT youR salad tossed LiKE DaVid LeTTerMaN did in that video... ehh !!.. LoL !!.. that should drop 5 pounds.. no no waiT... did U SaY 10 Pounds !! O woW !! ... Dee sniDeR would be proud !!..HoTsauce !! Lmao...!!

 

[Longhairfreak]

okK LHF I crunched the number i give u the resulTs in a few minutes but iTs gunna be close so hold your breath we gunna take ya up too 8000 FT grab your OxXxYGeN boTTle from GRamPs and some KLenexXx from Grand- Maa !! To the ChoPPeR !! Here we go hang oN !!.. okK LHF i talked ta the TowN CounciL here on snow n mud and they Pulled your file on the dry weights..on the ToRQuE 1160... we know aLreaDy that the TuRBooO ski- doo at 8000 Ft DrY weighT Ta poweR Ratio is 2.83 ... ... so here ya go LHF the numbers comiN uP from the TowN CounciL and its a majority VoTe... here are 1160 Ninja turtle torque monster numbers... 440 dry weight with 200 hp at sea level... so now at 8000 ft 440 dry weight 152 hp so 440 ~ 152 hp = 2.89.. close 2nd place.. so looks like if ya came in wiT a DrY weight of 430 pounds...u would haVe a 2.83 raTio... TheN iT would be a TiE at 8000 ft .. LHF PRoVE The TowN CounciL oTherwise .. bacK ta the ChoP -her -SHoP ta lose some weighT off the 1160 Ninja TuRTLE TorQuE monsTer .. ALoHa !! 20,860 vieWs.. O HEYman what would it cosT too lose THE LAST 10 pounds min $500 a pound ???... Hmmmm !!! Call JeNNy CraiG... kK - BooM !! O HeYman maybe CHoP the MoP ToP twisted sisTer Doo and GeT youR salad tossed LiKE DaVid LeTTerMaN did in that video... ehh !!.. LoL !!.. that should drop 5 pounds.. no no waiT... did U SaY 10 Pounds !! O woW !! ... Dee sniDeR would be proud !!..HoTsauce !! Lmao...!!

430 lbs 205 hp and 136 ft lbs of torque. Do the math. You need to measure torque. That's what moves you. Also I'm not geared for 45 mph.

 

[Teth-Air]

POLARiS stock 850 or any stocK 850 n/a needs to stay below 3000 ft to really SHiNE ... JusT a thoughT.. Thinking ouT loud... BreakKeR 1 NiNeR !! BreakKeR 1 NiNeR !!.. LoL .. ALoHA !! Go aHead .. That's just good stuff .. beeP !! beeP !! HeYman throw another BaRR- BQ on the SHRiMP.. or BreakKeR 1 NiNeR !! BreakKeR 1 NiNeR !!.. head Ta ReVeLSToKE... pick uP a LoaF of MiLkK and a QuarT of Bread aT the Big eDDy marKeT .... VinCE would be proud... honkK ! honkK !!.. while your there graBs me couple MaRs BaRs !! lmao... nice video.. please confirm elevation...Ya know Ya WaNNa... HoTsauce !!

But that is not where the story ends. Even when you get to altitude where both sleds have equal power to weight you still have more weight with the Doo and that altitude also means less oxygen for the rider. Some say they don't feel the weight and the Doo rides lighter? That would be fine if you can honestly say you spend the entire day riding. We ride trees and steep grades and all of us take our turns getting stuck, some days it feels like it is the majority of the day. Are we all just poor riders? I think we are above average as we tend to be pulling a lot of skis for many that join our group. Again, as always, I say it all depends on your riding styles and terrain. For Maxy, he likes the meadows and open bowls and who gets stuck in those areas? Nobody should, and in that type of riding the Doo will shine, as will the 4 stroke turbo Yamaha. Can the Doo ride the trees? Absolutely and there are many guys who do it well. What I can't believe is guys on here solely base their opinion on which is a better sled by HP numbers at altitude. Doo has great engineering, fit and finish along with great innovations. These attributes are more impressive than the HP at elevation numbers to me.