Going to eat some crow for this

[neilsleder]

I believe that the 250 SJ were more problematic then the 200's.
I think that Chrisco's boat runs in the skinny right along with SJ's and his new build should even be better.

You’re right there. Big boats have big surface area so lots of water to hold them up. It’s when they’re stuck that you notice the weight lol. But the price tag is a lot higher on the v8.

 

[neilsleder]

big job putting the new intake in and everything

I wouldn’t even consider it if I couldn’t do it myself. I weld aluminum for a living and we have laser table and break at work so it’s just the time and money to do it.

 

[NoBrakes!]

I have heard very good things of your welding skill. building an intake would be simple with your fab skill, especially if you had one to copy from. its still a big job to pull motor, pump, steering, exhaust, wiring, hoses etc... and then to replace them with the new, just saying its a big job.

 

[NoBrakes!]

I am going the other way lol. big job also... I need to get the twin 350s and 309s in the party barge this spring

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Was kinda wondering what it would take for a swap on a SJ

 

[neilsleder]

Was kinda wondering what it would take for a swap on a SJ

Lots.

 

[neilsleder]

Was kinda wondering what it would take for a swap on a SJ

Would need to weld new intake in and redo the back of the boat for the new pump to bolt into. Redo the uhmw around the pump intake. New throttle and steering and gauges. And probably engine cover. I think in 5-7 years it will be a good idea to retro fit these as a business. Sport jets will be hard to come buy and lots of boats have them.

 

[pfi572]

F&$king four stroke V8’s .

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Would need to weld new intake in and redo the back of the boat for the new pump to bolt into. Redo the uhmw around the pump intake. New throttle and steering and gauges. And probably engine cover. I think in 5-7 years it will be a good idea to retro fit these as a business. Sport jets will be hard to come buy and lots of boats have them.

Could a little boat like the 1775 be capable of the weight of a v8?

 

[neilsleder]

Could a little boat like the 1775 be capable of the weight of a v8?

I would go 4.3DI it around 300hp and lighter then a 350 with pretty much the sam hp. And shorter to. Or see what that eco boost does when it gets some hours on it.

 

[S.W.A.T.]

I would go 4.3DI it around 300hp and lighter then a 350 with pretty much the sam hp. And shorter to. Or see what that eco boost does when it gets some hours on it.

The ford eco boost?

 

[neilsleder]

The ford eco boost?

Yah. Lots of guys are jumping on that motor. But I would still give it a bit to get hours on it. Small boosted motors tend not to have the best reliability. And pricey when they need to be fixed. At least the gym based motors have been around awhile.

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Yah. Lots of guys are jumping on that motor. But I would still give it a bit to get hours on it. Small boosted motors tend not to have the best reliability. And pricey when they need to be fixed. At least the gym based motors have been around awhile.

I had a eco boost and that is a incredible motor in a pickup anyway. I have heard of guys putting them in boats on meanchicken but like you said they need some more hours to get a real conversation going

 

[pfi572]

Do your research on the eco ? I have and wouldn’t be jumping in right yet .
Truck is fine but in a boat its a whole different game.
Give it a few years.
The 6.2 is tough to beat . IMO

 

[LennyR]

Not as stinky , quieter, no annoying vibration, no more dicking around with 2 stroke oil, no more packing extra fuel pumps, ability to run a motor heater !!! You bet these are some good things, But NO way are you gonna get the skinny/no water capability you can get with the sport jet. Especially if you’re running with a full load of extras, full bed motor cover, groovy storage doors, big heavy seats , all nice features , in a big boat. A lot of the boats I see guys running and calling skinny water boats kinda remind me of like taking a vette and adding all the features of a Cadillac and then wondering why it’s performance is lacking. Like , take the extreme duty 1775 , awesome boat if it’s left bare bones, start adding weight and features , performance goes down drastically. Firefish piranha is an example of what I mean, a supposed skinny water small boat , loaded with so much weight and extras , it severely limits the performance. Different expectations I guess. Gonna be tough to add a bunch of weight and maintain SJ performance. If elimination of SJ is just about emissions, that’s to bad , cause they are awesome it proper application.

 

[pfi572]

^^^^^^^
Exactly Lenny

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Not as stinky , quieter, no annoying vibration, no more dicking around with 2 stroke oil, no more packing extra fuel pumps, ability to run a motor heater !!! You bet these are some good things, But NO way are you gonna get the skinny/no water capability you can get with the sport jet. Especially if you’re running with a full load of extras, full bed motor cover, groovy storage doors, big heavy seats , all nice features , in a big boat. A lot of the boats I see guys running and calling skinny water boats kinda remind me of like taking a vette and adding all the features of a Cadillac and then wondering why it’s performance is lacking. Like , take the extreme duty 1775 , awesome boat if it’s left bare bones, start adding weight and features , performance goes down drastically. Firefish piranha is an example of what I mean, a supposed skinny water small boat , loaded with so much weight and extras , it severely limits the performance. Different expectations I guess. Gonna be tough to add a bunch of weight and maintain SJ performance. If elimination of SJ is just about emissions, that’s to bad , cause they are awesome it proper application.

I am really interested in the 1775, so you suggestion is to keep it bare bones? I was looking at a used one but it's full of extras. Thanks for the post as now I will reconsider and look more at new with less features. I need to be able to pack the family so in this case less will be more

 

[LennyR]

I am really interested in the 1775, so you suggestion is to keep it bare bones? I was looking at a used one but it's full of extras. Thanks for the post as now I will reconsider and look more at new with less features. I need to be able to pack the family so in this case less will be more

Everyone has their opinion , but I believe the 1775 is the best all around boat if you need some size and also want to run the skinny’s. Have ran with lots of them in really bumpy water and they perform great, even with 4 adults and gear. And tough as hell. Some smaller boats will do better but not with the room plus toughness of the extreme duty. I don’t really like the new bigger size. Always a compromise though , with any of them, low degree makes them shine on shallows, also sucks on a rough lake. I always wonder about guys who say they were running such skinny water and then also say they never bumped ? Then it wasn’t really low it was shallow, hell of a difference. Low is when you have to slide to the next pool , low is when you need to get on step in a boat length , low is when you don’t get your ankle bones wet when pushing .

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Everyone has their opinion , but I believe the 1775 is the best all around boat if you need some size and also want to run the skinny’s. Have ran with lots of them in really bumpy water and they perform great, even with 4 adults and gear. And tough as hell. Some smaller boats will do better but not with the room plus toughness of the extreme duty. I don’t really like the new bigger size. Always a compromise though , with any of them, low degree makes them shine on shallows, also sucks on a rough lake. I always wonder about guys who say they were running such skinny water and then also say they never bumped ? Then it wasn’t really low it was shallow, hell of a difference. Low is when you have to slide to the next pool , low is when you need to get on step in a boat length , low is when you don’t get your ankle bones wet when pushing .

Ya that sounds low


I guess a purpose built boat for low doesn't really need much for extras any ways, not like I will be installing down riggers

 

[LennyR]

Ya that sounds low


I guess a purpose built boat for low doesn't really need much for extras any ways, not like I will be installing down riggers

I went out a couple times with the folks here that bought your boat, they didn’t keep it that long. Great boat , worked well , but I think they just had different expectations. They sold it quite quickly and didn’t suffer any loss at all. River running wasn’t their thing , especially around here later in the year, most of our rivers get pretty skinny for that boat.