F150 Heavy Duty Payload Capabilities

[Pistonbroke]

The front and rear individual axle weights always add up to more than the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

You are not allowed to go over any of the three ratings…its not just about the payload, its also about the placement of the payload. With the 8’ bed on this truck I can move some weight towards the back of the bed if the front axle is near capacity or conversely I could move some weight towards the front if the rear axle was near capacity. The 5-foot box on my last Super Crew did not really allow for very much weight distribution and had a really crappy payload rating.

I will definitely have the truck weighed with a full two sled load.

Nailed it Ferniehawk. The brakes, frame, axles, tires, etc are what determines the ratings on the door pillar. You have to make sure to run the correct load range tire when replacing them, and all should be well with the universe and any scale or check you may run into. Really good thread, dude.

 

[FernieHawk]

At Race City in Calgary they used to have these Enduro races on the oval track. I think it was a $2,000 claiming rule class…true redneck beater class. The races were great…I think it was 250 miles or 500 laps of the ½ mile track. The right side bearings, hubs and wheels took a beating on the unprepared cars and most of the cars ended up in flames with catastrophic failures…it was awesome.

This memory got me thinking…how about an oval race called the Red Neck Sled Deck 500. You could pit ½ ton, HD ½ ton and the Super Duty trucks against each other. All the trucks would be loaded with different types of sled decks and 2 stock Yamaha Apex sleds. This would shake down the trucks as well as the different manufactures sled deck designs. Would the overall lighter weight trucks outlast the heavier beefier trucks? I doubt they would...but it would be fun to see what happens.

 

[medler]

I can't see you having a problem. I mean if your under all the weights you should be good to go
They're not gonna say these weights if they can't back them up ..
Would be nice if it had a full floater though

 

[tater]

The biggest difference I notice from half ton to 3/4 to 1 tonne is suspension, breaks, and tires are all made to haul better under any heavy breaking or cornering... Half ton will do trick but have to lean into corners cause feels like truck gonna flip over... I own a masonry company and have had all above trucks. Half ton for commuting.. IMO

 

[SavageCanuck]

The only other concern I would have is hooking up any kinda trailer with the deck on as you would have to allow for the tounqe weight. But as you said probably not pulling a trailer.With my 2500HD I still have the option to go bigger when needed.I would prefer a light weight gasser around town.

 

[FernieHawk]

Definitely a 1/2-ton HD is not meant to replace a 3/4 or one ton…they all have their place. My truck is used for basic daily transport and will occasionally carry sleds and tow a small boat to the lake.

Probably 95% of the miles driven with this truck will just have me, myself and I in the truck and I would rather be driving a 5,500 lb truck instead of a 7,500 to 8,000 lb truck. It also gets 25% better fuel economy on the highway compared to my old 2004 F150 FX-4 4x4…11 liters/100k at 100 kph and 13 liters/100k at 120 kph.

I also used to have a 2003 2500HD with the 8.1 L (496 cu in) and the 5 speed Allison...that was a fun hooligan truck, but the fuel consumption was not so good, even when driving nice.

 

[tater]

I don't disagree at all.. Much nicer ride in 1/2 ton. My 3500hd has airbags as well. Rides like a steel wheeled lumber wagon unless I have 1000lbs in it!! I've actually been thinkin might pick up a ford raptor someday for days I don't need beast! Fuel economy is a good thing with these bend you over prices!!

 

[FernieHawk]

I've actually been thinkin might pick up a ford raptor someday for days I don't need beast! Fuel economy is a good thing with these bend you over prices!!

Ya a Raptor would be fun...have you ever seen the video of the guy jumping his Raptor at the motocross track?

Ford Raptor jumps 90 feet! - YouTube

 

[250mark1]

According to the numbers you should be ok but h scale will be the tell all
just be prepared as you might get pulled over more often with 2 sleds on being that it is and f150

 

[catalac]

I went this winter from a 10 f350 to a 7700 gvw supercrew 157 wheelbase (6.5 box) with the 6.2l. I can't imagine going back to a 350 unless I bought a monster 5th wheel. I pulled a 32ft bumper pull on the may long, I actually think it takes the trailer better than the 350 did. The 8200 gvw half would be killer imo to have the extra 500 lbs would be nice.

 

[oler1234]

I am with ferniehawk. Like me and many others you really have no need for a 3/4 ton except for sledding. If the half ton gets it done, go with it for all the reasons you stated. Even if it is a little floppy with two sleds, your commutes to the hills are much less than the rest of us, drive accordingly. Plan b in my mind would be to throw a flat bed on the back instead of a box, going this route almost ever half ton could haul two sleds then.

 

[Trukker]

The front and rear individual axle weights always add up to more than the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

You are not allowed to go over any of the three ratings…its not just about the payload, its also about the placement of the payload. With the 8’ bed on this truck I can move some weight towards the back of the bed if the front axle is near capacity or conversely I could move some weight towards the front if the rear axle was near capacity. The 5-foot box on my last Super Crew did not really allow for very much weight distribution and had a really crappy payload rating.

I will definitely have the truck weighed with a full two sled load.

Same as with the Big trucks in the U.S we can scale 20,000 lb per axle when spread out and 12000 on the steering but gross is supposed to be 80000

 

[mb1]

Good thread, my '07 GM 3/4 has a GVW of 9200# and weighs about 7400 with me and a ( big) tank of fuel. Payload is quite weak. I wouldn't be opposed to looking at the new 1/2 tons when the time comes to replace my rig. It would be nice to do a towing test drive somehow though.

Although a guy at work just told me his new silverado 1/2 gas struggled to pull a camper that his 07 1/2 gas had done fine with. Interesting.

 

[Lococoin]

Good thread!

I just went from a 2000 ford diesel with a gvwr of 8800 to a new one ton with gvwr of 11500 to get the extra payload. My old trucks rating was an embarrassment, only 800ish pounds of payload. I used to overload it with a quad and a gear bag. I ended up putting air bags in it and just loaded it up to the axle and tire rating. Can't recall the rear axle rating off hand, I think it was about 6500 with the 16 inch tires rated for 3042 lbs each.

If I didn't haul my rzr in a sled deck and pull a 9000 lb trailer I would have looked at the f150 a bit harder.

 

[FernieHawk]

Here is some payload info from the Ford Canada website

2013 Ford F-150 | View Payload Specifications | Ford.ca

The following payloads are for the 5.0 L with the 8,200 GVWR Heavy Duty Payload package. The 3.5 L EcoOrBoost ratings are 10 lbs less.

Regular Cab 4x2 145” Wheel base = 3,119 lb
Super Cab 4x2 163” Wheel base = 2,709 lb
Super Crew 4x2 157” Wheel base = 2,619 lb

Regular Cab 4x4 145” Wheel base = 2,810 lb
Super Cab 4x4 163” Wheel base = 2,400 lb
Super Crew 4x4 157” Wheel base = 2,330 lb

Leaving out the Limited and Raptor versions, one of the lowest payloads on a non-HD F150 is the
Super Crew 4x4 145" 3.5L EcoOrBoost 7,200 lb GVWR and a 1,518 payload

 

[LBZ]

Here is some payload info from the Ford Canada website

2013 Ford F-150 | View Payload Specifications | Ford.ca

The following payloads are for the 5.0 L with the 8,200 GVWR Heavy Duty Payload package. The 3.5 L EcoOrBoost ratings are 10 lbs less.

Regular Cab 4x2 145” Wheel base = 3,119 lb
Super Cab 4x2 163” Wheel base = 2,709 lb
Super Crew 4x2 157” Wheel base = 2,619 lb

Regular Cab 4x4 145” Wheel base = 2,810 lb
Super Cab 4x4 163” Wheel base = 2,400 lb
Super Crew 4x4 157” Wheel base = 2,330 lb

Leaving out the Limited and Raptor versions, one of the lowest payloads on a non-HD F150 is the
Super Crew 4x4 145" 3.5L EcoOrBoost 7,200 lb GVWR and a 1,518 payload

Those 4x4 numbers seem more realistic to me.

 

[Lund]

Here is some payload info from the Ford Canada website

2013 Ford F-150 | View Payload Specifications | Ford.ca

The following payloads are for the 5.0 L with the 8,200 GVWR Heavy Duty Payload package. The 3.5 L EcoOrBoost ratings are 10 lbs less.

Regular Cab 4x2 145” Wheel base = 3,119 lb
Super Cab 4x2 163” Wheel base = 2,709 lb
Super Crew 4x2 157” Wheel base = 2,619 lb

Regular Cab 4x4 145” Wheel base = 2,810 lb
Super Cab 4x4 163” Wheel base = 2,400 lb
Super Crew 4x4 157” Wheel base = 2,330 lb

Leaving out the Limited and Raptor versions, one of the lowest payloads on a non-HD F150 is the
Super Crew 4x4 145" 3.5L EcoOrBoost 7,200 lb GVWR and a 1,518 payload

Yep, these reading's apply to 3/4 and 1ton trucks also. The 2wheel drive regular cab gas jobbies have the best overall payloads, in according to their respective class.
Guys running around with big diesel crews, actualy have the lowest payloads. Cause their trucks are so heavy from the getgo. Yes they have the power to pull hard and fast but the rest of the truck is still restricted.
Personnaly i run a SuperDuty 350 crew, but its not because of any payload capabilities. But because i live in BC and the diesel ability to haul over mountian roads is very nice when hauling steep grades. But especialy when i'm pulling my boat, over all there are imo no real advantages to a diesel unless its working and working hard over long distances. In just about all other aspects a gas motor is better and cheaper.
If your basicaly using the truck as your daily driver and weekend sled hauler, even travel trailer hauler, a 1/2ton is a great if not the best option IMO.

 

[sledneck_03]

ive questioned ram canada to see if they upped the payload or will offer a heavy half option for the crew 6.5' box they will offer this fall, they keep saying have to wait till released. My crew 5' box sports payload is like 800 lbs.

I may go to a heavy half ford 1500 ego boost.

 

[dodgeguy]

^^ Dodg....errr I mean Ram, whatever...will not come out with a HH unless they ditch the coils in the rear, ram had a HH out with leaf springs but it was just a 3/4 ton with a 1500 badge (and only available in RC/LB) like they did with the older quad cab hemis. Not sure if they still offer it, OR if it was ever even offered in Canada!?

 

[magnet]

^^ Dodg....errr I mean Ram, whatever...will not come out with a HH unless they ditch the coils in the rear, ram had a HH out with leaf springs but it was just a 3/4 ton with a 1500 badge (and only available in RC/LB) like they did with the older quad cab hemis. Not sure if they still offer it, OR if it was ever even offered in Canada!?

Friends got one qaud cab 1500 badges and all 2500 driveline if I remember right except wheels I think are like a 7 stud or some bs like that but still not as high a gvwr as the f150