Doo advice

[Lowlife82]

Trying to compare a freeride to a summit. Never owned a doo so other than the specs(read them) what r the pros to cons? Riding style is everything. thanks

 

[tantrumpipeline]

Better suspension, sway bar disconnects, I can't tell a real difference myself in anything when riding other than the freeride feels smoother and handles drops a lot better, also this season they can be a sweet camo green

 

[scrfce]

The freeride is a trencher, good and sturdy for droppin, jumpin and trails

 

[maxwell]

free ride = free range sled IMO. if you want to hit the big jumps and drops and do whips this is the sled for you. the beauty is it still has deep snow capability. something that a short track race sled doesnt have. this is basically a cross between the two. it has a stronger chassis, wider running boards, WIDER SUSPENSION, and much better shocks. the one thing that drives me nuts is people buy these with the expectation they will be good for carving around in marginal snow conditions. they arent. plain and simple. wide stance sleds never are. they are designed for other purposes. then they complain that there skidoo cant sidehill or carve worth a crap. well this is why. that is what the SUMMIT is designed for. freeride also only comes in 154 max length. dont get me wrong expert and advanced riders can make these things dance just like the summit because of there skill level. but a new or not so experienced mountain rider WILL have a hard time with this sled if he or she is trying to carve around and bookdock in marginal snow conditions. its just the nature of the beast.

the summit is purely a mountain sled, it doesnt handle well on trails or tight corners but wow does it ever work in the deep stuff. carves and sidehills effortlessly for miles on end and will climb like a goat. this sled is deep snow specific with the 2.5" track from the factory and it is not meant for the big bumps and jumps. although still perfectly capable. that is where the freeride comes in.

 

[Lowlife82]

free ride = free range sled IMO. if you want to hit the big jumps and drops and do whips this is the sled for you. the beauty is it still has deep snow capability. something that a short track race sled doesnt have. this is basically a cross between the two. it has a stronger chassis, wider running boards, WIDER SUSPENSION, and much better shocks. the one thing that drives me nuts is people buy these with the expectation they will be good for carving around in marginal snow conditions. they arent. plain and simple. wide stance sleds never are. they are designed for other purposes. then they complain that there skidoo cant sidehill or carve worth a crap. well this is why. that is what the SUMMIT is designed for. freeride also only comes in 154 max length. dont get me wrong expert and advanced riders can make these things dance just like the summit because of there skill level. but a new or not so experienced mountain rider WILL have a hard time with this sled if he or she is trying to carve around and bookdock in marginal snow conditions. its just the nature of the beast.

the summit is purely a mountain sled, it doesnt handle well on trails or tight corners but wow does it ever work in the deep stuff. carves and sidehills effortlessly for miles on end and will climb like a goat. this sled is deep snow specific with the 2.5" track from the factory and it is not meant for the big bumps and jumps. although still perfectly capable. that is where the freeride comes in.

Can a person narrow the stance on the freeride? to make it more capable of sidehill/carving? is there a kit or anything? or is it too job specific so to speak?

 

[polarisdragon800]

The pilot DS ski's let you adjust 38 inches to 40 inches of stance, I believe?

 

[underdog]

Can a person narrow the stance on the freeride? to make it more capable of sidehill/carving? is there a kit or anything? or is it too job specific so to speak?

You can put the S-36 kit on it, to narrow the front stance to 36".

 

[polarisdragon800]

You can put the S-36 kit on it, to narrow the front stance to 36".

Or you could do that. Haha, my knowledge on the doo's is limited.

 

[takethebounce]

The freeride is a trencher, good and sturdy for droppin, jumpin and trails

The pre- 2012 Freerides were trenchers, yes. Then they fixed the location of the rear brackets after realizing this.


Maxwell already summed it up the differences. The Freeride is built on the XP chassis, as is the Summit and what many people still don't seem to get, the XM as well. If you like to drop cornices and look for huge air, the Freeride will handle it better doo to the added bracing from the RS sleds. So if you are looking at a Freeride, the 2011's are not as good for deep snow performance.

In 2011 the Freeride was a version of the Summit, then for 2012 it became its own model. It really doesn't need to be, but it set up everything for the XM as now the XM does not share the same body panels as the Freeride.

Sure you can put the 36" stance on a Freeride. Lots of people do. You can even bolt in a t-motion from the XM.

If you would prefer to have better deep snow performance, boondocking, hillclimbing then go with the narrower stance Summit.

 

[underdog]

But if you do that, you lose the good shocks on the front.

 

[Lowlife82]

so only go freeride if doing the big drops and jumps?

 

[deaner]

Dont buy either. Everyone should take off thier doo blinders and buy M8s. So there you go.......buy an M8. They can do anything. If you dont agree obviously you are just drinking doo-laid.

 

[maxwell]

so only go freeride if doing the big drops and jumps?

That's the way I feel. Because you pay more for the freeride and you will end up spending more to turn it back to a summit by the sounds of it.

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[Lowlife82]

Dont buy either. Everyone should take off thier doo blinders and buy M8s. So there you go.......buy an M8. They can do anything. If you dont agree obviously you are just drinking doo-laid.

nice. i am trying to decide my next sleds. doin a little recon on the doo as i feel i know enough on the poo.i have had yammy blinders on in the past so am not knowing pros and cons of the different two strokes is all. no interest in the cats

 

[Lowlife82]

That's the way I feel. Because you pay more for the freeride and you will end up spending more to turn it back to a summit by the sounds of it.

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K. i know love talkin doo. Summit X? Summit SP? Diff?

 

[takethebounce]

K. i know love talkin doo. Summit X? Summit SP? Diff?

There are lots of guys riding Freerides who will never use the sled to its potential, that being said, there are lots of other sleds never being used to their potential.

Freeride is heavier due to the added bracing as well. Not interested in 50 foot drops? Stick with a Summit.

A Summit X is a spring order sled. You can only get them in season if the dealer had extra orders that never were filled. They do have a better shock, different graphics, have had better gauges and sometimes some other small items like a lower windshield and bar set up but in recent years the shocks have been the biggest difference in terms of upgrade costs. There has been a track option on the X as well that has been cheaper to buy upfront than upgrade later on, but if going to a 3" or longer than a 163 don't waste money on something you are taking off the sled.

There used to the the X and Everest. The Everest is now the SP. Some people will argue that an X will have a higher resale. Maybe in the first 2-3 years but after that all sleds tend to depreciate at the same rate regardless of model and options.

 

[ferniesnow]

I have a narrow stance 2010 Everest (the stock a-arms, shocks, etc are included) and a 2012SP that are both for sale and very reasonably priced.

 

[JoHNI_T]

i have a 2012 Freeride.... it is a great sled and handles the big stuff at high speeds like no other,,, that being said it is tuffer to toss around like everyone has stated, its a bit heavier, ski's are wider but the boards are also an inch wider on each side so this also makes it very stable, stable is great unless you want to sidehill etc....

I am only 5'8" and 150lbs so its a bit of work for a guy my size. I found myself fighting it a bit especialey downhill on edge lol

The freeride is a great choice its a very tuff sled with all the RS bracing and the wide boards are nice. but if you want to be sideways all day and not so tall maybe get a summit, I am comparing xp to xp because i have not riden the new xm but I have one coming so the freeride is for sale only 950kms 154 $12900 with 2 more years warranty come get it!!! still on original belt zero issues to date

shocks are very noice on the freeride and the adjustable dial is handy on those days you need adjustments. and the white looks nice I think... not many whities out there

 

[E-Zmoke]

There are lots of guys riding Freerides who will never use the sled to its potential, that being said, there are lots of other sleds never being used to their potential.

Freeride is heavier due to the added bracing as well. Not interested in 50 foot drops? Stick with a Summit.

A Summit X is a spring order sled. You can only get them in season if the dealer had extra orders that never were filled. They do have a better shock, different graphics, have had better gauges and sometimes some other small items like a lower windshield and bar set up but in recent years the shocks have been the biggest difference in terms of upgrade costs. There has been a track option on the X as well that has been cheaper to buy upfront than upgrade later on, but if going to a 3" or longer than a 163 don't waste money on something you are taking off the sled.

There used to the the X and Everest. The Everest is now the SP. Some people will argue that an X will have a higher resale. Maybe in the first 2-3 years but after that all sleds tend to depreciate at the same rate regardless of model and options.

SP, Everest, Skummit, X, XM, XX, XP, Freeride, They are all the same = HEAVY they don't even hold a balance point on flat ground. I had the liberty of jumping on one of those XM's at the demo tour last year in Eagles and it was actually hilarious that I could stand effortlessly on one ski and hold it their for as long as I wanted on my PRO but could not hold a balance point for longer then 5 seconds on the new XM - great engine I will give them that but why would you want to muscle around something and fight it all day is beyond me? I also tried out one of them freerides last year and returned it after i found out it does not side hill very good at all. Again great power and can climb but no fun to ride. why so many different models that are all the same? Pretty confusing if you ask me...

 

[fountaintirexp]

SP, Everest, Skummit, X, XM, XX, XP, Freeride, They are all the same = HEAVY they don't even hold a balance point on flat ground. I had the liberty of jumping on one of those XM's at the demo tour last year in Eagles and it was actually hilarious that I could stand effortlessly on one ski and hold it their for as long as I wanted on my PRO but could not hold a balance point for longer then 5 seconds on the new XM - great engine I will give them that but why would you want to muscle around something and fight it all day is beyond me? I also tried out one of them freerides last year and returned it after i found out it does not side hill very good at all. Again great power and can climb but no fun to ride. why so many different models that are all the same? Pretty confusing if you ask me...

Well you just explained the difference perfectly. i'm sure glad you chimed in to inform everyone how smart you are and how confused anyone who didn't purchase a pro is. Thank you.