Desire for EVs rises with gas price

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April 7, 2022 by Adam Malik

Desire for EVs rises with gas prices​

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The automotive aftermarket may see electric vehicles in its bays sooner than expected thanks to rising gasoline prices.

The increased cost per litre for gas in Canada, along with vulnerability in the oil supply chain has made Canadians feel more favourable to buy an EV, according to a new poll from business advisory firm KPMG.

Three in five (61 per cent) Canadians said it’s time to buy an EV. More than half (51 per cent) have decided to never buy a pas-powered vehicle again. Nearly one in three (30 per cent) regret not already owning an EV.

“The poll results show that rising fuel prices are a big catalyst in changing Canadian attitudes towards EVs,” said Peter Hatges, national automotive sector leader for KPMG in Canada. “Canadians were already on edge about the spike in inflation and are now afraid soaring gas prices will make it impossible to balance their budgets. Buying an EV will allow them to take some control by reducing their fuel and maintenance costs.”

Of the 61 per cent who decided it’s time to buy an EV, 18 per cent said high gas prices and oil supply volatility solidified their decision, 24 per cent said it greatly influenced their decision and 19 per cent confirmed gas prices changed their mind; they weren’t considering an EV before and now they are.

In B.C., gas prices were around $2 per litre in late March, according to gasbuddy.com. So it perhaps not surprising that 63 per cent in British Columbia — 60 per cent among 25-to-34-year olds and 68 per cent among 18-to-24-year-olds — said they would never buy a gas-powered vehicle again.

Nearly half (48 per cent) of respondents reported that they’re “definitely buying an EV” because they “don’t think gas prices will ever normalize again, especially as economies transition off oil and gas,” KPMG found.
 

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I find it had to believe that the big oil and gas companies will just roll over and die. They have invested billions of dollars in oil and gas, and for them to just let the volume and profits fade away. :rolleyes::unsure:
 

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There isnt battery powered semis or trains or heavy equipment or jet planes....

Dont worry, petroleum is here to stay.
It will be here but majority wont be able to afford it. How to force/control a change on the mass populace? You are seeing the beginning of it.
 

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It will be here but majority wont be able to afford it. How to force/control a change on the mass populace? You are seeing the beginning of it.
As long as i can still buy it, dont care if yall have to ride the bus 🤣
 

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$0.04/km and nearly zero maintenance.
So lets say the gov`t takes the taxes off the price of gas, what would the price be at the pump? Maybe in the $0.75 range(about 50% is taxes). But you say they can't because you need the taxes for road maintenance and road structure. I had a Vette got 6.5-7 litres per 100 kms( if you don't like corvettes then insert a Prius here). that would work out to about $0.05/km without the taxes just like the EV`s. Now in the future when there are no more gasoline taxes and oil taxes we will still need road maintenance and new roads for the EV`s. Where is the taxes going to come from, my guess is EV`s and then the cost of driving one will not be $0.04/km
 

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not looking so rosy at the moment but shhhh don’t let that out. I’m sure they will find a way to road tax your electric consumption- metering at home for starters , plus the soon to be time of day rate increase. The latest greatest tax increase in BC is the tax on natural gas to increase to 12% .Thank a BC NDP VOTER - so woke we can save the planet right here in BC . HARDER, DADDY TAX ME HARDER !!!!
 

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So lets say the gov`t takes the taxes off the price of gas, what would the price be at the pump? Maybe in the $0.75 range(about 50% is taxes). But you say they can't because you need the taxes for road maintenance and road structure. I had a Vette got 6.5-7 litres per 100 kms( if you don't like corvettes then insert a Prius here). that would work out to about $0.05/km without the taxes just like the EV`s. Now in the future when there are no more gasoline taxes and oil taxes we will still need road maintenance and new roads for the EV`s. Where is the taxes going to come from, my guess is EV`s and then the cost of driving one will not be $0.04/km

Oh cool I guess I didn’t know a v8 corvette got 100mpg. Thanks.


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Ummm 7 litres per hundred is not 100 mpg. Getting some pretty cool gas powered ride that sip fuel.
I get that electric has a market but I look at the total carbon footprint and I’m sorry at this point I’m convinced electric is a dirty powered vehicle at this point.
 

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Ummm 7 litres per hundred is not 100 mpg. Getting some pretty cool gas powered ride that sip fuel.
I get that electric has a market but I look at the total carbon footprint and I’m sorry at this point I’m convinced electric is a dirty powered vehicle at this point.
How does British Columbia generate all its dirty electricity?
 

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Heres a start on where all that clean energy comes from. Now just think of how much enviromental damage will continue when we are forced to join trudys push to go electric.
this is like squeezing a balloon, squishes one way and increasing in another.
Not bashing electric vehicles, super cool technologies there. Just don’t sell it as fixing our future.
 

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No one buys a corvette to drive it at 1100rpm.

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You can't be this stupid. You don't drive rpms. You drive at mph or kph. I said at 100 kph my rpms were 1100. Just so you look up the right car, it was a 2005 6 speed base model with options. I would bet that an EV driven faster than the speed limit will not get the same efficiency.
 

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Oh cool I guess I didn’t know a v8 corvette got 100mpg. Thanks.


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Reality check bud - 6.5L/100 km = 36.2 mpg using a US Gallon.

Bought fuel at $1.53 yesterday, so that 100km drive in the Vette would cost 1.53*6.5 =$9.95 or $0.095 /km

When fuel used to not cost a left nut, $0.05 / km isn’t unreasonable.
 

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You can't be this stupid. You don't drive rpms. You drive at mph or kph. I said at 100 kph my rpms were 1100. Just so you look up the right car, it was a 2005 6 speed base model with options. I would bet that an EV driven faster than the speed limit will not get the same efficiency.

Why do you think I’m stupid?


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Why do you think I’m stupid?


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You said people drive at 1100rpms. People do not go out and say 'I'll drive this many rpms today'. Also we live in Canada not the US so I use our measurements. I bought gas at $1.41 per liter. And if you go back to my first post I said if gas didn't have all the taxes, gas would be about half what we are paying now. If EV had( and I'm sure they will in the future) taxes like ICE they wouldn't be $0.04/km to drive
So basically you called me a liar I called you stupid.
 

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The cost to recharge an EV is also highly dependent on how it’s done. High speed supercharging in BC at the beginning of March is now up to $1.65 per minute so a full quick fill can be upwards of $50 if your personal time has any value. This is certainly just the beginning of cost increases and was a 70% jump to just a few months ago.

If you compare this to the above chart, the cost in this case is actually $5.00 per 25 miles and not $0.84 (Corvette is $6.57 per 25 miles, still refuels a lot quicker)
 
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