Calfrac - do they do drug testing?

[SledMamma]

JMHO, but people don't have the "right" to do drugs in the workplace and endanger other people. Constitutional freedoms and rights are only upheld if they don't infringe upon the rights of others. When you do drugs, you take away other people's right to choose a safe workplace environment.... A large and important portion of my immediate family works in the oilfield, and I would be pretty pizzed if some crack-whore was a root cause of their demise or maiming...

Not long ago, we had a mother in the NICU who was addicted to cocaine threaten to launch a lawsuit because we refused to allow her to exercise her right to breastfeed and pass that cocaine onto her baby via breastmilk. Sure, she can choose the cocaine: its not legal, its not right, but ultimately, its her choice. But she doesn't get to make the choice for an innocent who can't choose for themselves or say no. I don't think the workplace is any different.

 

[PEAK SEEKER]

JMHO, but people don't have the "right" to do drugs in the workplace and endanger other people. Constitutional freedoms and rights are only upheld if they don't infringe upon the rights of others. When you do drugs, you take away other people's right to choose a safe workplace environment.... A large and important portion of my immediate family works in the oilfield, and I would be pretty pizzed if some crack-whore was a root cause of their demise or maiming...

Not long ago, we had a mother in the NICU who was addicted to cocaine threaten to launch a lawsuit because we refused to allow her to exercise her right to breastfeed and pass that cocaine onto her baby via breastmilk. Sure, she can choose the cocaine: its not legal, its not right, but ultimately, its her choice. But she doesn't get to make the choice for an innocent who can't choose for themselves or say no. I don't think the workplace is any different.

Well said!!

 

[OVERKILL 19]

I dont think it's against the law if you tell people before you hire them that there will be drug testing. If they agree to it, not sure how they can sue U. Pulling a surprize test out of the blue, I could see not flying. Working at Dow for 11 years now, we random drug test our contractors, shutdown etc.....we even give warnings...We are drug testing Monday...
FAIL....
OK really we will retest Friday for real this time......................

FAIL!

And still they b!tch?????????? We have had people not get $150 a year jobs due to failed drug test? I just don't get it?
I think it's God way out sorting out the retards!

 

[teeroy]

There are drug test agencies that will be hired by an oil company to tests in remote areas. Pee in a cup usually in that case.

I have no problem with that, as long as they hold the cup...."oops, I missed a little.....sorry....." :d

 

[DaveB]

I work for "Big Red" in the office and I get random tested more now than I ever did in the field. Doesn't bother me a bit....get off early to go pee in a cup and blow a breathalizer....woopidy do.

And to the OP: I wouldn't hire you. You're VERY concerned about being able to continue use of a controlled drug that your doctor doesn't think you need.

 

[JaySimon]

Thing that bugs me, if someone is a casual user of the wacky tabbacky, and indulges when he/she gets home from work at the end of the day, they are FAR more likely to get caught up in it than someone who does coke regularly.

That is wonky.

 

[Mike270412]

Thing that bugs me, if someone is a casual user of the wacky tabbacky, and indulges when he/she gets home from work at the end of the day, they are FAR more likely to get caught up in it than someone who does coke regularly.

That is wonky.

Me too!!!A little electric lettuce does no more than a bottle of whiskey,but you can drink whiskey every day;smoke a little funny stuff now and then and FAIL!!

Not that I would ever condone partaking in a controlled substance:d:d

 

[Bogger]

Thing that bugs me, if someone is a casual user of the wacky tabbacky, and indulges when he/she gets home from work at the end of the day, they are FAR more likely to get caught up in it than someone who does coke regularly.

That is wonky.

This is where I see the unfairness of it all.....

That said PLEASE do not take my posts to mean I am against testing. I actually do not understand why it has taken so long and why so many "loopholes" are needed for a company to test.

This thread started as a "do they do random drug testing... Apparently I was wrong and they, obviously some things must have changed because back when Imperial oil wanted random testing, even having an employee sign off agreeing to it still did not make it legal.

I agree with everyones right to a safe and drug free workplace and in the end the rights of a weekend toker are far outwieghed by the rights of everyone else... it's just unfortunate is all. My understanding is by the use of a swab THC testing is becomming more accurate and is able to determine impairment as opposed to lingering traces in the body...

 

[2manykids]

Thing that bugs me, if someone is a casual user of the wacky tabbacky, and indulges when he/she gets home from work at the end of the day, they are FAR more likely to get caught up in it than someone who does coke regularly.

That is wonky.

I am really not sure what you are trying to say here?

What are they more likely to get caught up in?

 

[2manykids]

I agree with everyones right to a safe and drug free workplace and in the end the rights of a weekend toker are far outwieghed by the rights of everyone else... it's just unfortunate is all. ...

Could you please explain, no i dont want to make this an argument. Just dont understand. The part about the weekend toker..

 

[JaySimon]

I am really not sure what you are trying to say here?

What are they more likely to get caught up in?

Alright, here's how I see it. Two dudes work on the same crew. Dude A smokes a fatty after work every day and is otherwise a model employee. Dude B likes coke. Lots. Every day.

Word gets out that a test is in the near future. If dude B can hold out for 3 days, he will piss clean. Dude A has no chance to piss clean as the THC takes a month to leave the system. Dude A loses his job, as he had a dirty test. Dude B pases test, goes back to snorting lines all day.

It's a wierd situation, as Dude A is more likely the safer work partner, given that he prefers to induldge after work, whereas Dude B thinks it's snowing all the time.

It's a bit of a stretch, I'll admit, as a habitual cocaine user will be really easy to spot, and I imagine the company would be targeting him, but the pot smoker may get caught up in it all, even though he is more likely to be a safer employee.

I guess the easiest way around it is to not partake, but I personally don't like something relatively harmless be lumped in with something so heavy. Cocaine/crack are pretty damned efficient at destroying lives, whereas marijuana is much less effective at destroying lives.

Just one man's opinion.

 

[2manykids]

Alright, here's how I see it. Two dudes work on the same crew. Dude A smokes a fatty after work every day and is otherwise a model employee. Dude B likes coke. Lots. Every day.

Word gets out that a test is in the near future. If dude B can hold out for 3 days, he will piss clean. Dude A has no chance to piss clean as the THC takes a month to leave the system. Dude A loses his job, as he had a dirty test. Dude B pases test, goes back to snorting lines all day.

It's a wierd situation, as Dude A is more likely the safer work partner, given that he prefers to induldge after work, whereas Dude B thinks it's snowing all the time.

It's a bit of a stretch, I'll admit, as a habitual cocaine user will be really easy to spot, and I imagine the company would be targeting him, but the pot smoker may get caught up in it all, even though he is more likely to be a safer employee.

I guess the easiest way around it is to not partake, but I personally don't like something relatively harmless be lumped in with something so heavy. Cocaine/crack are pretty damned efficient at destroying lives, whereas marijuana is much less effective at destroying lives.

Just one man's opinion.

Thank You for the xplanation

 

[goodngrubby]

When I was hauling logs into Millar Western in Whitecourt, they were talking about bringing in random testing. I was really wishing they would, there would be no more wait times at the loader or the mill yard, as most of the drivers would have been run off. I don't care for sharing the road, or any work space, with somebody who isn't all there.

 

[2manykids]

When I was hauling logs into Millar Western in Whitecourt, they were talking about bringing in random testing. I was really wishing they would, there would be no more wait times at the loader or the mill yard, as most of the drivers would have been run off. I don't care for sharing the road, or any work space, with somebody who isn't all there.

Does that include the guy that is hung over from the night before?

 

[sledderdoc]

When I was hauling logs into Millar Western in Whitecourt, they were talking about bringing in random testing. I was really wishing they would, there would be no more wait times at the loader or the mill yard, as most of the drivers would have been run off. I don't care for sharing the road, or any work space, with somebody who isn't all there.

Agreed ............

 

[team dirt]

My company does not do random testing unless you have an incident or have failed a test in the past and are on a program to go back to work.
Here is our policy and I would say this is pretty comon around the patch as we are a fairly large company.
View attachment drug and alchohol.pdf

 

[sledderdoc]

My B in L is working on the Henday ........ he is spreading dirt beside the road and he said quite often a gravel truck goes by and tosses out a 40. In one pass he went down one way then on the way back there was three there. Some of these guys are unreal!!

 

[Bogger]

My B in L is working on the Henday ........ he is spreading dirt beside the road and he said quite often a gravel truck goes by and tosses out a 40. In one pass he went down one way then on the way back there was three there. Some of these guys are unreal!!

I see no issues with random breathalizer testing... pretty difficult to come up with a convincing argument against that...

 

[JaySimon]

I see no issues with random breathalizer testing... pretty difficult to come up with a convincing argument against that...

What about ignition interlocks? You blow clean, you drive. It requires a fresh blow every 15-30 minutes, time being determined randomly?

 

[Bogger]

What about ignition interlocks? You blow clean, you drive. It requires a fresh blow every 15-30 minutes, time being determined randomly?

Again not sure how an employee could argue against this.... would be VERY expensive for the employer though... Brother-inlaw had to have one installed in his truck $1700