Calfrac - do they do drug testing?

[dizzi]

I'm going to be getting trained by them as a truck driver, I'm just wondering if they do drug testing, and if so how often and is it random etc. I take xanax once in a while for anxiety, job interviews and job training etc. This is in Alberta.

 

[Puba]

I'm going to be getting trained by them as a truck driver, I'm just wondering if they do drug testing, and if so how often and is it random etc. I take xanax once in a while for anxiety, job interviews and job training etc. This is in Alberta.

If thats all you take, no worries. And random testing in Canada is not legal as of yet.

 

[catmando]

They all do yes but when you go in tell them that,If you have a prescription or doctors letter you may be allright,depending on the Drug,going for my drug test on Thursday,going to work for Ferus!
catmando!

 

[catmando]

If thats all you take, no worries. And random testing in Canada is not legal as of yet.

But they do it.................!
catmando!
That is the first I heard that,wow elaborate please!

 

[RMK Junky]

I'm going to be getting trained by them as a truck driver, I'm just wondering if they do drug testing, and if so how often and is it random etc. I take xanax once in a while for anxiety, job interviews and job training etc. This is in Alberta.

Everyone does drug testing these days especially with the patch. Just be up front with them with your situation. The random thing...it's all about the surprise. Good luck.

 

[gotboost]

if u were going to work for me that the first thing i do :d

 

[dizzi]

The problem is I take it without prescription. Doc won't prescribe it so asking for a prescription is out of the question.

I guess I will have to quit it.

 

[dizzi]

If thats all you take, no worries. And random testing in Canada is not legal as of yet.

What if I don't have a prescription?

 

[S.W.A.T.]

As with most patch companies i highly doubt they are concerned wit xanax, mor along the lines of coke and heroin, the are looking for THC and opiates. Random drug testing is legal by companies, however no one can make you do it, but with most companies if you don't pee you don't work. If you don't pee your probably hiding something more then anxiety. They are just trying to weed out the crack heads, its a insurance ploy to cover their own ass, wouldn't you do the same?

 

[dizzi]

It makes sense.

I only really want to use the xanax for training which will be about two weeks. After that I won't use it because I will be on my own which means no triggers for anxiety. And of course I don't want to be an idiot behind the wheel.

I could quit for the interview and initial drug test and start using after that. It's not likely they will test me 2 times within a couple months is it?

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Companies usually only test after some sort of accident

 

[Rene G]

Where I work we do 2 test in the first 3 months of employment and then approx one every six months. If you wait until after an incident it could be too late.

 

[RMK Junky]

Companies usually only test after some sort of accident

There was a little bottle just for that reason in my accident kit when I drove for a company out of High River running south.

 

[Longhorn]

What if I don't have a prescription?

Personally I wouldnt hire you then...it shows and proves illegal drug use, even though Xanax isnt an illegal substance, possesing it and taking it without a prescription is...

Calfrac is commonly refferred to as 'Crackfrac' down here becasue during the boom there was more crack on a Calfrac crew than at a Hells Angels clubhouse LOL.

All oil & gas companies do ramdom drug tests (ok maybe not all, but the majority) and yes you have the option to refuse a random test, the company cannot force you, but if you refuse the company has the right to keep you at home...

Calfrac does pre-hiring, random and post incident testing. (They sometimes have to burn the results of the random tests or face laying off the majority of staff)

And yes, 'after incident' or 'post incident' drug testing is the rule in ANY oilfield incident...

 

[new24stroke]

I know for sure 100% they drug test

 

[Bogger]

RANDOM testing infringes on a persons basic human rights to privacy.. Random is not legal in Canada research Imperial oil human rights complaints.

That said, Pre-employment testing is totally within an employers rights as is post incident. the only time an employer can random test is if an employee is found to be under the influence and has recieved treatment (rehab) for an addiction. When the treatment is completed an employer is within thier rights to random test said worker as a follow-up to the treatment.

Post incicent is still a grey area... if an incident occours they often will want to test every worker who was involved in the work process, not only those directly involved in the incident, often this is disputed however rarely does it benefit a worker because as soon as you refuse a test you are dismissed under a failure to provide a sample clause.

In my personal opinion the drug testing procedures have done more harm than good, a guy who would at one time smoke a lefty from time to time now cant because THC remains present for up to 30 days...ironically crack cocaine is out of the users system in 36-72 hours.

Some THC testing is now being done via a mouth swab which claims to be more accurate in determining "under the influence"

Dale would have more current information than me.

 

[Bogger]

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[Longhorn]

RANDOM testing infringes on a persons basic human rights to privacy.. Random is not legal in Canada research Imperial oil human rights complaints.

That said, Pre-employment testing is totally within an employers rights as is post incident. the only time an employer can random test is if an employee is found to be under the influence and has recieved treatment (rehab) for an addiction. When the treatment is completed an employer is within thier rights to random test said worker as a follow-up to the treatment.

Post incicent is still a grey area... if an incident occours they often will want to test every worker who was involved in the work process, not only those directly involved in the incident, often this is disputed however rarely does it benefit a worker because as soon as you refuse a test you are dismissed under a failure to provide a sample clause.

In my personal opinion the drug testing procedures have done more harm than good, a guy who would at one time smoke a lefty from time to time now cant because THC remains present for up to 30 days...ironically crack cocaine is out of the users system in 36-72 hours.

Some THC testing is now being done via a mouth swab which claims to be more accurate in determining "under the influence"

Dale would have more current information than me.

Sorry Bogger, but you are incorrect...

"IF" random testing is part of your company standards, and part of your drug and alcohol program, then it most definitely allowed...(no discussion here, most oilfield companies do this as it is a requirement of the clients)

Even Pre-employment drug testing is not allowed 'unless' it is part of a companies hiring mandate. So lets say that Calfrac has no standard or pre-hiring practice of drug testing upon employment, but suspect YOU as an applicant, then ask you for a drug test, yes that is NOT allowed. However, these companies advertise, and notify you upon application that pre-employment testing is mandatory, and random testing is part of the regular safety program. If you want the job you then sign a document that gives your consent to random testing.

So in essence, and according to the Canadian Human Rights Commision, drug testing is NOT allowed, it most definitly is practiced 'Legally' in the oilfield, and its very simple, take the test or apply elsewhere. Also, alcohol testing is considered acceptable, and guess what, drugs show up on that same test...

I have worked as a safety consultant for over 10 yrs in the patch, and testing is getting more and more common. If you cant test clean, pretty hard to get a job now when things are so slow.



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[Longhorn]

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Its a real touchy subject...the rights of an individual vs the rights of a company...

I see both sides...and I would much rather work with a guy that smokes a joint at lunch, than a guy that drinks at lunch, but its the real hard drugs that we see in the field (crack and cocaine) that really bother me...very common!

 

[RMK Junky]

I was north of Wriggly NWT three winters ago working for a certain oil company. I have nothing to hide but it seems to me when your on their turf it's our way or the high way. A scare tacktic more than anything. So they search my truck at km#0 because I am on their road now. Reach camp and have to wait till morning to be swabbed. I wasn't prego :d Find out they have a person of "suspision" and have to take care of it first. They can't search his room without a warrant because that is his personel space...go figure. So now the idea of a random drug test was issued. He refused and was on the next plane back home. O tolerence for all and will be enforced is what they pounded into your head. The locals were the worst btw. I'm not a political man by far but this seems a little communist to me. 25 + years in the oilpatch a guy sees alot of things and changes. Some for the better...some not. Don't get me wrong here, I'm all for drug testing...but there's a wright way to do it. Alot of people do not know their rights and these companies pray on that.