BC Election Today

[S.W.A.T.]

So many people don't realize where their products come from,, the live in the lower mainland in land in a green bubble. Heat is always just there at a flick of a switch and gas is always at the station. One thing about Alberta industry is always in your face and the majority of people know where things come from like gas and food. Too man "I don't need oil because I take the bus" idiots in BC. I fully believe everyone should do their part in looking after the land but cities are the worst polluters, far more then rural folks, in most cases

 

[ABMax24]

I like to use Vancouver and the island an example of hypocrisy, Vancouver has vowed to ban natural gas in new construction citing its CO2 emissions, yet Victoria still doesn't treat its sewage and dumps it into the ocean, but none of the leaf lickers see that so they don't care.

 

[X-it]

Dumping of sewage and garbage in the oceans will be our demise, it would not the first time that our oceans have turned into a bacteria soup. And then if that is not enough all you get is acid rain killing all the plants. People who work with water know how toxic just breathing the air near the water can be.

 

[Scrambled]

Most of the island outside of Victoria is industrial,mostly workings​ folk employed in natural resources, except the area I live outside of which is mostly retired folk and no real industry,the largest employer is the school board,I think that's why NDP gets in here because lots of union guys and girls,is there leaf lickers yes but no more then any other small town areas,any how just clarifying that as I here lots on here about the island being that way,been here of and on all my life and seems to be about the same as everywhere else I lived.

 

[Bnorth]

You only get $10/day childcare if your household income is less than $40k/year. If you make less than $40k you are not middle class you are poor, getting tired of politics spinning it like the poor are middle class and the actual middle class are the rich that need to be taxed for all this crap. Also housing affordability in the lower mainland, yeah try getting a good job not being a barista. Maybe that means leaving the lower mainland to pursue a lifestyle you can afford and a better paying job in the interior. Fawk these entitled azzholes on the coast.

 

[Scrambled]

Once again it's a catch 22,if all the people working at jobs that make under say 30 bucks ahour as even that would be tuff to buy and live there leave you would be without any shopping malls restaurants​ and bars just to name a few,would be a pretty s#itty city with out that stuff being available,so if they paid everyone a wage enough to live on you couldn't afford to go there anyways,been a problem in Whistler for years,town can't run without the workers but the workers can't afford to live there,so you ethier build low cost housing or run the risk of service and shopping company leaving or shutting down do to lack of employees,can't see any other way of doing it,do you?I'm no expert so this is just my thoughts.

 

[Bnorth]

I see your point although I'm not advocating a mass pilgrimage to the interior. It's not the baristas and clothing salespeople that need help it's the families or those looking to start families but can only afford a 1 bedroom. If just 5% of these people moved somewhere with a lower cost of living and some economic opportunity they would thrive and relieve some of the pressure on housing and pricing.

 

[rzrgade]

The cost of living is simply to high on the island & factor in the ferries and it is not a place to go make a " good living".....
You are competing with many retirees who are not concerned with growing the economy, rather they are steadfast against growth and change ..
Also take into account the grassroots Greanie agenda is full on on the island ....
Not a good formula for economic success for a growing family ...,

 

[pano-dude]

The cost of living is simply to high on the island & factor in the ferries and it is not a place to go make a " good living".....
You are competing with many retirees who are not concerned with growing the economy, rather they are steadfast against growth and change ..
Also take into account the grassroots Greanie agenda is full on on the island ....
Not a good formula for economic success for a growing family ...,

Why is quality of life a bad way to raise a family?

lots of people are happy making enough money to live in beautiful places and don't need to have all the latest and greatest toys.

I went back to Alberta to make more money but missed the life of living everyday in bc more than I liked the money.

I am ok with less wage and more tax to be able to sled, fish a pristine creek, or climb a mountain on my moto any day I want.

 

[rzrgade]

Believe it or not , we can do all those things & and still get paid a fair wage ...lol in Alberta .
Fact is there is more opportunities for families in parts other than the island / lower mainland and the okanagon .. ..
Do you think anyone's children will ever afford their own single family house in Vancouver?
Ironically , doing with less means more in many ways .. not only financially , but with with out the stress of the aforementioned areas .
Wages are about the same , in most areas ... but homes are in the millions in Vancouver & and getting there on the island. It is simply priced out of reach for the next generation, and yes that does effect quality of life ...
Who wants to be a renter when you get older ??

 

[Scrambled]

Once again you are putting the island as Victoria,it not like that up island,real estate is alittle higher then some areas but you can get a nice 3 bedroom rancher around here for in the 350 range,the ferry does suck and getting worse with the government raising rate all the time,yet all the fresh water ferries in BC are free,try to figure that one out, just a money grab,

 

[rzrgade]

I was raised on the island so I am quite familiar with it ...
Victoria is too pricey and the rest of the island has no real industry or growth . That is my point ..
And yes the ferries are ridiculous,and that explains the cost of living as well ...
If you like it there ( many do ) great , but my point is simply ... don't complain about the economics on the island, because there are much better places to live if that is your main concern .

 

[S.W.A.T.]

I was raised on the island so I am quite familiar with it ...
Victoria is too pricey and the rest of the island has no real industry or growth . That is my point ..
And yes the ferries are ridiculous,and that explains the cost of living as well ...
If you like it there ( many do ) great , but my point is simply ... don't complain about the economics on the island, because there are much better places to live if that is your main concern .

Lots of industry on the island, logging isn't what it was but it's still going on. Many people don't realize how big farming is there. My folks live on the island and I spent many years there too. They are trying..... Doubtful it will happen to reopen some coal operations not to mention tourism. For a long time the island was really affordable, the increase in retirement folks, many from Alberta, have driven up the housing market. Honestly 500k to live close to the ocean is far better then 500k to live next to a slew. The ferry is a huge issue and honestly it costs way to much but that's the cost of living there. Definitely getting crowded though.

 

[rzrgade]

The island voted NDP & green solidly , you think industry stands a chance ...seriously?

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Other then the parksville qualicum and Courtney Campbell River the island is without a doubt a snowflake stronghold. Many people North of Nanaimo work in northern BC mine and forestry jobs and of course oil patch jobs. West jet runs a direct flight from Edmonton to Comox. There is lots of industry there. Duncan and cowachin area still log, many tug and barge jobs. One thing I noticed there is they are very pro and proud union folk. Industry isn't the only way to make a living, commerce jobs are probably the biggest money maker.

 

[pano-dude]

Believe it or not , we can do all those things & and still get paid a fair wage ...lol in Alberta .
Fact is there is more opportunities for families in parts other than the island / lower mainland and the okanagon .. ..
Do you think anyone's children will ever afford their own single family house in Vancouver?
Ironically , doing with less means more in many ways .. not only financially , but with with out the stress of the aforementioned areas .
Wages are about the same , in most areas ... but homes are in the millions in Vancouver & and getting there on the island. It is simply priced out of reach for the next generation, and yes that does effect quality of life ...
Who wants to be a renter when you get older ??

Can you walk out your door start your moto and be at 7000' in an hr And on the way home catch a couple cut throats for supper?
The cost of homes in Alberta is the same or greater than most towns in BC with the exception of Lower mainland and the Okanogan.

When I retire the acreage will be go up for sale so The wife and I can travel wherever, whenever we want.

 

[rzrgade]

Pretty well any where along the foothills I imagine ....
While that speaks to you , some one else may like something totally different ..lol
That's my point , the cost to buy property in PARTS of BC is too high , and that makes home ownership almost impossible for people ,in some areas ..

While the rest of BC and Alberta are somewhat similar , in many ways ...
I still think employment is more bountiful in Alberta ,and I expect that to increase in Alberta with a new government soon.
On the other hand with a green / NDP
Majority , your finances are about to crumble in BC ....imo

 

[ZRrrr]

Neighbour is moving to Victoria in June to start a small business catering to the retired crowd. When house hunting he said prices were gong up weekly and any properties had immediate multiple offers. He noticed Americans were the big purchasers....they get an automatic 30% discount.

I would take the Kootenays any day...if my wife would agree to move.

 

[DaveB]

I would take the Kootenays any day...if my wife would agree to move.

Ditto. My dad was from the Koots. They retired back to Creston and Ma still lives there....it's where I am gonna end up.

 

[eclipse1966]

trying to find workers in the Okanagan is nuts! I have been looking for a bookkeeper/general duties since last fall. I have friends who own companies in the same boat as well as my buddy in Golden looking for a journeyman plumber. Times have changed in BC so yes there are LOTS of jobs out here with good pay as well. A good friend of mine cant find a truck driver than pays $28-30/hr full benefits and home every night. As for housing, my daughter and her other half bought a 3 bedrooms starter home last summer for $224,000 in downtown Armstrong. Needed a couple upgrades but they didn't go mortgage poor like a lot people feel the necessity to do so. Its not all about the all big or go home.

Pretty well any where along the foothills I imagine ....
While that speaks to you , some one else may like something totally different ..lol
That's my point , the cost to buy property in PARTS of BC is too high , and that makes home ownership almost impossible for people ,in some areas ..

While the rest of BC and Alberta are somewhat similar , in many ways ...
I still think employment is more bountiful in Alberta ,and I expect that to increase in Alberta with a new government soon.
On the other hand with a green / NDP
Majority , your finances are about to crumble in BC ....imo