450 utility quad-tires question

[imdoo'n]

When you quote also quote the way a person says instead of changing the words to make you look smarter, I did not say as easy I said it will turn them in anything the stocker would turn in!!

I never said I had any ultimate knowledge. The quad goes the same speed down the gravel roads, rides the trails at the same speeds, when stuck in thick slop it is able to get the tires to spin and they didn't spin any faster with stock tires. It is not used for racing and it doesn't do wheelies so how is a person supposed to know if it lost power?? It does all the same stuff it used to and hasn't had any problems.
Maybe before you open your stink hole you should try some of this, it's not all about speed and power(450's don't have power to start with) But at least you did prove that anyone can be a retarded internet star with all the knowledge in the world. I tried the machine before and after(could not tell a difference) and my mother has no issues. And if you want to talk about smokin, maybe you should go FAWK yourself as I have never done and have no interest in trying.

If you want to pay for a dyno you can prove to me the power loss then I can tell you again that just riding it normally there is no noticible difference and you are still retarded!

put your 25 in stock tires back on sonny and see if they will spin better, you really can't be seriuous. you telling me a 10% increase in tire circumference will not affect your quad , get with the program buddy. again your young and stupid. period.
go talk to your mommy, she should know, your still a snot nose.

 

[4byrookie]

put your 25 in stock tires back on sonny and see if they will spin better, you really can't be seriuous. you telling me a 13% increase in tire circumference will not affect your quad , get with the program buddy. again your young and stupid. period.
go talk to your mommy, she should know.

COOL, been alot of years since some one called me young!! When did I ever say they spin better, please tell me as I can't keep up to you changing my words.

 

[imdoo'n]

COOL, been alot of years since some one called me young!! When did I ever say they spin better, please tell me as I can't keep up to you changing my words.

ya whatever, maybe talk to mom and find out what she says. a 10 % increase in tire circumference affects tire rotation. so don't ch!t me sonny.

 

[4byrookie]

he who states that going to bigger tires with no power loss is full of shheeet, and has know idea of what he yaks about. bigger tires requires clutch kit or more power period. you cannot physically rotate bigger tires like smaller tires. i call bull ch!t 4by rookie is what his handle says a kid that has no idea period.

Okay. Sorry you are the king. I am still an offroad rookie with only 5 years riding. I wish I was still a kid but passed on that title about 30 years ago. I am saying what the ride is Like on our machine but it must be wrong cause you obviously ride it more than we do. I personally can't feel your 13% loss that you have ressearched way more than most. I will let you have your crown as internet hero and stats no it all since I am not dumb enough to argue at your level.

 

[imdoo'n]

Okay. Sorry you are the king. I am still an offroad rookie with only 5 years riding. I wish I was still a kid but passed on that title about 30 years ago. I am saying what the ride is Like on our machine but it must be wrong cause you obviously ride it more than we do. I personally can't feel your 13% loss that you have ressearched way more than most. I will let you have your crown as internet hero and stats no it all since I am not dumb enough to argue at your level.

seems like most of the other posters have said they notice a power lose going to bigger tires, especially when they put there stockers back on. maybe they are are telling tall tales. not likely. don't care how long you have ridin, or how long you been away from mom. your quad will never spin 27 tires as well as it will 25's period. if you think so good for you your the hero.
i have went from 25 in tires to 26 in on a 700 king quad, and i notice a power drop, you telling me going from a 25 to a 27 tire on a 450 will not be noticeable. pass the reefer dude.

 

[4byrookie]

seems like most of the other posters have said they notice a power lose going to bigger tires, especially when they put there stockers back on. maybe they are are telling tall tales. not likely. don't care how long you have ridin, or how long you been away from mom. your quad will never spin 27 tires as well as it will 25's period. if you think so good for you your the hero.
i have went fro 25 in tires to 26 in on a 700 king quad, and i notice a power drop, you telling me going from a 25 to a 27 tire on a 450 will not be noticeable. pass the reefer dude.

I am not trying to say others haven't noticed a power difference, again you like to play on words to prove your point, even when I am not saying you are wrong, all I am saying is we don't feel a difference on our machine, it goes everywhere it did before and more and we have no issues. If you want to spout about what others say, fine, if you want to pay for a dyno just to prove a point, fine, but what I feel compared to what others feel when comparing power on quads and in vehicles is gonna be completely different. If you want to keep on crying and passing the refer jokes to think you are cool go ahead. I don't think I am a hero like you as the OP asked a question, I gave my opinion of an answer and if it makes you unhappy, so be it!

 

[imdoo'n]

I am not trying to say others haven't noticed a power difference, again you like to play on words to prove your point, even when I am not saying you are wrong, all I am saying is we don't feel a difference on our machine, it goes everywhere it did before and more and we have no issues. If you want to spout about what others say, fine, if you want to pay for a dyno just to prove a point, fine, but what I feel compared to what others feel when comparing power on quads and in vehicles is gonna be completely different. If you want to keep on crying and passing the refer jokes to think you are cool go ahead. I don't think I am a hero like you as the OP asked a question, I gave my opinion of an answer and if it makes you unhappy, so be it!

you seem to keep bringing up some dyno shheeet, put your old tires on and tell me you can't feel a difference, please give me a break. if your happy with your quad great, only you stated there was no difference, i say BS. period. and with that i am done with yor BS.

have a nice day.

 

[4byrookie]

you seem to keep bringing up some dyno shheeet, put your old tires on and tell me you can't feel a difference, please give me a break. if your happy with your quad great, only you stated there was no difference, i say BS. period. and with that i am done with yor BS.

have a nice day.

I don't have her old tires so can't try that. And I didn't state their was NO difference, I stated we could not feel a difference.

Come on, you have to keep posting, what am I gonna do for the last 2 hrs of work!!

 

[stabmasterarson]

I think 4by is saying he feels his quad is as good or better, for the riding he does with the tires he's got...if he gives up power he gains grip, or something. I think maybe going to a light 27" tire and doing a clutch mod would maybe give me stock power in a larger tire

 

[4byrookie]

I think 4by is saying he feels his quad is as good or better, for the riding he does with the tires he's got...if he gives up power he gains grip, or something. I think maybe going to a light 27" tire and doing a clutch mod would maybe give me stock power in a larger tire

that pretty much sums it up, it was also fun getting him riled up and killed some time at work.:d

 

[FTBeaver]

What do you do that you are working this late?

 

[4byrookie]

What do you do that you are working this late?

I am forman of the pipe yard for our Machine shop. Fridays are our early nights, during the week we work 6:30pm till 6:30am but Fridays we start at 3:30pm and get to leave at 11:30.
Not much work tonight so I am slacking in the office, having fun playing with peoples minds!!

 

[byronkentgraham]

Gators over Mud Bugs! I know they are a very similar tire but I've always preferred the Gator.

I've ridden both and know that the tread/lugs are at slightly different angel and have a different weight. It's not a huge difference but i know there is. But go with whichever is cheaper

 

[imdoo'n]

I think 4by is saying he feels his quad is as good or better, for the riding he does with the tires he's got...if he gives up power he gains grip, or something. I think maybe going to a light 27" tire and doing a clutch mod would maybe give me stock power in a larger tire

going from a 25 to a 26 in tire, you will notice a power drop, not to bad though, but from a 25 to a 27 it will be noticable, 27's will be good with a clutch kit and also for extra clearance. otherwise you will be in low range alot. a 450 only has so much power. i would try 27 with clutch work. 26 you should be ok without clutch work, but why lose any power. 4b has gotten used to riding quad with 27 tires, but there is a definite power loss and you will be beat by all your buddies. as stated get a light tire, clutch kit and 26 or 27 tires. or go to more aggressive 25's.

 

[stabmasterarson]

going from a 25 to a 26 in tire, you will notice a power drop, not to bad though, but from a 25 to a 27 it will be noticable, 27's will be good with a clutch kit and also for extra clearance. otherwise you will be in low range alot. a 450 only has so much power. i would try 27 with clutch work. 26 you should be ok without clutch work, but why lose any power. 4b has gotten used to riding quad with 27 tires, but there is a definite power loss and you will be beat by all your buddies. as stated get a light tire, clutch kit and 26 or 27 tires. or go to more aggressive 25's.

The only time I get beat by my buddies is in the deep mud because they all have big bores. But I still have less power for sure. I need clearance and traction that's why I want a 27" tire. I have 26" bearclaws and I can get my quad up to almost 100km/h on a gravel road so even if I lose a bit of top speed I can handle that. I just want that low end grunt to jump over logs and stuff. Maybe I'll go with the tires first, then if I really notice a loss of power, get the clutch mod.

How much does a clutch mod run usually?

 

[4byrookie]

The only time I get beat by my buddies is in the deep mud because they all have big bores. But I still have less power for sure. I need clearance and traction that's why I want a 27" tire. I have 26" bearclaws and I can get my quad up to almost 100km/h on a gravel road so even if I lose a bit of top speed I can handle that. I just want that low end grunt to jump over logs and stuff. Maybe I'll go with the tires first, then if I really notice a loss of power, get the clutch mod.

How much does a clutch mod run usually?

Most clutch kits run around $2-300+ for most machines. There are a few clutch mods that only require minor work and money though. I am not sure if you can just change springs or not in the king quads as that is the easiest and cheapest way to go. I run 29.5's and have a full clutch kit but I had 28" Zillas and all I had was just a different primary spring to give more power(this is a brute clutch though which is quite a bit different as far as I know).

 

[imdoo'n]

you can put 2mm shims in your clutch betwwen the sheeves which will gic=ve you loe end. if your going this far i'd put a clutch kit in and the shims. you will notice a low end power loss with 27 tires and no clutch kit, you'll be in low all the time. check out nyroc web site, the best for kingquads, do what you will, but i hightly recommend a clutch kit on the 450 with 27 tires but you will see.