450 utility quad-tires question

[imdoo'n]

been in a few mudholes and very impressed with tires so far, the KQ being a single usually has no problem going where the twins go, not that impressesd with swamplites, although they look good.

 

[Joshgrizz660]

ya i was on the fence on swamplites, i was thinking i need sumthing more MEATYER then those xtr's so was looking into mudzillas but they pricey haha, idk if im going to do it may think of those heavy ass mambas cuz no one i know have those il just follow up with sum gorilla axles

 

[imdoo'n]

ya i was on the fence on swamplites, i was thinking i need sumthing more MEATYER then those xtr's so was looking into mudzillas but they pricey haha, idk if im going to do it may think of those heavy ass mambas cuz no one i know have those il just follow up with sum gorilla axles

yea it is a never ending circle, bigger and more aggressive tires=better axles, diffs etc. can get expensive real fast.
sometimes less aggressive works better for the wallet.

 

[Joshgrizz660]

would the regular zillas work good for a 450? also how would a 27" zilla fair on a750 brute force? with a clutch kit?

 

[imdoo'n]

would the regular zillas work good for a 450? also how would a 27" zilla fair on a750 brute force? with a clutch kit?

should work on a 450, as they are a light tire and good traction. should also work on the 750.

check around for pricing, 2coolperformance has real good tire pricing, not sure about shipping/ call and ask. even royal distrbuting.

 

[old mountain man]

I used 27"x12x12 rear and 27"X 10x12 front Mud Bugs for years on several 450 Honda's. No problems and they worked great. Still using same size on 500 Honda's.

 

[4byrookie]

would the regular zillas work good for a 450? also how would a 27" zilla fair on a750 brute force? with a clutch kit?

If you go with 27" Zilllas on a Brute, a clutch kit is not needed. I ran 28" Zillas and couldn't feel any power loss with them. I eventually put a maroon primary spring in just to give some more snap. We also have 27" Zillas on our 450 Kodiak and it has no issues spinning them in anything.

 

[AkNomad]

You guys that are putting 27" tires on 400-450 sized machines have to be dropping some power, they are not geared to run those big tires, no matter how light they may be. I've got a buddy that ran 27" ITP 589's on his Rubicon and it struggled in the mud and his gas mileage was horrendous, he ended up switching to Mudlites.

 

[X-it]

I went back to stock tires. Some tires you gain in mud but loose big time in other areas. Maybe swamplights "might" work good all round.

 

[doorfx]

You guys that are putting 27" tires on 400-450 sized machines have to be dropping some power, they are not geared to run those big tires, no matter how light they may be. I've got a buddy that ran 27" ITP 589's on his Rubicon and it struggled in the mud and his gas mileage was horrendous, he ended up switching to Mudlites.

It's a honda it would have struggled in the mud anyway :dlol
.I agree I put 26" mudlites on my 500 and noticed a loss of power for sure.After having my primary machined 2mm,fixed plate mod, dropping to 17.5gr rollers(steel only)a yellow dalton secondary,I got it all back and then some lol.Dyno jet,exhaust,and snorkels and now I can turn 28" outlaws no problem.
You have to lose power ...you are turning a lot more mass.

 

[AkNomad]

You might be right about the Honda but any sra bike is going to struggle some in the mud without modifications. After market tires designed for mud is a good step in the right direction but not if you go too big. I've also got 26" Mudlites on my Foreman but they are all the 9" version so my power lose is minimal, gas mileage has gone down a bit though.

 

[X-it]

If you think the honda struggles in the mud....just wait till you try stopping it (bad brakes). Oh and i own a foreman, nice a rough riding. Especially with aftermarket tires. If you want to get a little more out of a honda make sure all your tires are exactly the same size...measure them.

 

[AkNomad]

I've got brakes and have had them since I bought it, the fronts aren't very good though. I'm going to put one of those disc brake kits on mine this summer but I eventually plan to buy a little bigger machine with a better suspension. Mine with that Perfex kit is a rough riding sumbitch.

 

[imdoo'n]

he who states that going to bigger tires with no power loss is full of shheeet, and has know idea of what he yaks about. bigger tires requires clutch kit or more power period. you cannot physically rotate bigger tires like smaller tires. i call bull ch!t 4by rookie is what his handle says a kid that has no idea period.

 

[FTBeaver]

he who states that going to bigger tires with no power loss is full of shheeet, and has know idea of what he yaks about. bigger tires requires clutch kit or more power period. you cannot physically rotate bigger tires like smaller tires. i call bull ch!t 4by rookie is what his handle says a kid that has no idea period.

I totally agree. I just put my stock tires back on my 550xp 26" after running my 28" zillas and I couldn't believe how much power I gained back. I plan to put a clutch kit in I just haven't got around to it. Zillas are just to hard on the lawn.

 

[stabmasterarson]

Ya gotta make sure your paying attention to the posts. There is a big difference between the mudzillas and Zillas The maxxis Zillas 27x12x14 are 27lbs which is much different from the mudlights also you can get the 27x11x12 which are 23lbs.
If you want a good performing trail tire with some mud and such the Zilla(NOT THE MUDZILLA) is by far the best. If you like playing in the sand and mud as well then the mudbug would be a better choice.

I like doing it all on my quad, I enjoy technical climbs and bashing off of trees, screwing around in the dunes, a bit of mud (but I'm not a full on bogger), plus trails. I'm guessing it's best to order a set of tires online, or will I get a good deal on a set somewhere in Grande Prairie (not likely lol!)

So basically, it's between zillas and mudbugs for me then I guess.

 

[imdoo'n]

I like doing it all on my quad, I enjoy technical climbs and bashing off of trees, screwing around in the dunes, a bit of mud (but I'm not a full on bogger), plus trails. I'm guessing it's best to order a set of tires online, or will I get a good deal on a set somewhere in Grande Prairie (not likely lol!)

So basically, it's between zillas and mudbugs for me then I guess.

looks like you are looking for an all round tire, mud tires are out, zilla's, mudlights, xtr's, bear claws.

 

[4byrookie]

You guys that are putting 27" tires on 400-450 sized machines have to be dropping some power, they are not geared to run those big tires, no matter how light they may be. I've got a buddy that ran 27" ITP 589's on his Rubicon and it struggled in the mud and his gas mileage was horrendous, he ended up switching to Mudlites.

We have no power issues with the Kodiak 450 and it is absolutly stock other than the tires. It will spin the Zillas in anything that it could spin the stock tires in. Also you have to remember that the ITP 589's are WAAAAAAY heavier than Zilla's. Don't know about gas milage though as I don't really care about fuel milage on a quad, I just go till it's empty and always have extra just in case. We have had trips where my Brute is empty with 50km on it and also some where I can go almost 100km before empty.

 

[imdoo'n]

We have no power issues with the Kodiak 450 and it is absolutly stock other than the tires. It will spin the Zillas in anything that it could spin the stock tires in. Also you have to remember that the ITP 589's are WAAAAAAY heavier than Zilla's. Don't know about gas milage though as I don't really care about fuel milage on a quad, I just go till it's empty and always have extra just in case. We have had trips where my Brute is empty with 50km on it and also some where I can go almost 100km before empty.

you can't be serious? you telling us that turning 27 tires are as easy as turning 25 inch tires. are you serious. you won't lose power in tire rotation. you are the man with the ultimate knowledge and experience. i need a pound of whatever your smokin. you are full of shheeet dude.

 

[4byrookie]

you can't be serious? you telling us that turning 27 tires are as easy as turning 25 inch tires. are you serious. you won't lose power in tire rotation. you are the man with the ultimate knowledge and experience. i need a pound of whatever your smokin. you are full of shheeet dude.

When you quote also quote the way a person says instead of changing the words to make you look smarter, I did not say as easy I said it will turn them in anything the stocker would turn in!!

I never said I had any ultimate knowledge. The quad goes the same speed down the gravel roads, rides the trails at the same speeds, when stuck in thick slop it is able to get the tires to spin and they didn't spin any faster with stock tires. It is not used for racing and it doesn't do wheelies so how is a person supposed to know if it lost power?? It does all the same stuff it used to and hasn't had any problems.
Maybe before you open your stink hole you should try some of this, it's not all about speed and power(450's don't have power to start with) But at least you did prove that anyone can be a retarded internet star with all the knowledge in the world. I tried the machine before and after(could not tell a difference) and my mother has no issues. And if you want to talk about smokin, maybe you should go FAWK yourself as I have never done and have no interest in trying.

If you want to pay for a dyno you can prove to me the power loss then I can tell you again that just riding it normally there is no noticible difference and you are still retarded!