Sorry my bad I meant hand Gaurds. Whoops hahaIn regards to the handwarmers do you feel manufacturers should offer a model that doesn't have handwarmers for those that never turn them on? I think you are wanting a system like the car industry has but we are not there yet in this industry. In the whole scheme of things a sled with no handwarmers may cost more than a unit with them because they would have to stop the assembly line and change over to 25 sleds that don't want handwarmers. Its just not viable at such a small scale. I rarely use mine but when I want to use them I am glad they are there believe me.